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Shifty Pony posted:Is that AC adapter for under cabinet lights or something? I believe it's for a lovely surveillance system. The pigtails are from the 12V end, but connected to cables going outside the house. I just don't know how I feel about having non-waterproof 120V AC right underneath a whole lot of plumbing. (The garbarater via electrical outlet too.)
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Probably just needed a "pond" to hang out in during the dry season... I'm also guessing that toilet was in a shed outdoors somewhere. I think this is the cheapest plumbing setup I've ever seen. I'm hard-pressed to see how to skimp on material more than this. What does the ac adapter power?
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Lead out in cuffs posted:I believe it's for a lovely surveillance system. The pigtails are from the 12V end, but connected to cables going outside the house. Disposal on a gfci plug is code, at least here
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That is not a GFCI receptacle, though it may possibly be downstream of one. I have doubts. Lutha Mahtin posted:so that's where wednesdays come from ALL THE WEDNESDAYS
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PainterofCrap posted:That is not a GFCI receptacle, though it may possibly be downstream of one. GFCI receptacles only go where they are accessible, so this won't be it. Garbage disposal should be on its own separate breaker as well.
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Looks like they ran the vertical conduit first and then got to the box and realized they can’t make the bend in that space
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Nov 19, 2023 09:26
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HolHorsejob posted:I think this is the cheapest plumbing setup I've ever seen. I'm hard-pressed to see how to skimp on material more than this. Could have used some of these for the supply shut-off valves: 
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Deteriorata posted:What the gently caress are you growing in your toilet tank that would feed that many frogs? Green tree frogs hanging around toilets is super common in the North End of Australia - often they'll be in either an outhouse setting or in an old 'wet room' style area at the back of the house, accessed from the outside, often with a back door light nearby. Frogs chill in the toilet for comfort, then go hang out near the light to eat bugs, rinse and repeat. Geckos do similar, sometimes even climbing above ceiling mounted light clobes and dropping through clouds of gnats to get a mouthful, before climbing back up from the ground (the bioeconomics of this was always a mystery to me, you'd think a few midges or a moth would give you less energy even if successful than the effort of climbing back up two metres).
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Nov 19, 2023 14:32
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Shifty Pony posted:Could have used some of these for the supply shut-off valves: this is what we have in our kitchen and when i first saw it i thought we had no shutoff valve, I'd only seen the ones you turn 90 degrees before
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Nov 19, 2023 17:41
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HolHorsejob posted:I think this is the cheapest plumbing setup I've ever seen. I'm hard-pressed to see how to skimp on material more than this. They could have used CPVC instead of PEX, not used a water hammer arrester, or used a plastic supply line on the right (the ones in the left look like the kind that are part of the faucet so I won't automatically fault them for that). Even the drain line for the garbage disposal is better than the super thin stuff that's common for sink drains. As far as I'm concerned, all the dumb poo poo is on the electrical end.
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Cat Hatter posted:As far as I'm concerned, all the dumb poo poo is on the electrical end. Yeah that's my main worry. Other fun stuff is the automatic gate in the back yard that's powered by a half-buried extension cord plugged into an outlet on the side of the house. Fortunately the gate doesn't work due to subsidence. Also unplugging that extension cord was one of the first things I did at this place. I still need to open up the weird wall panel in the basement that I think houses a small server for the surveillance system. (At least, I'm pretty sure I hear fan hum from it. (
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Why would you notch the new board instead of pulling the wires and putting them through a drilled hole after installing it?
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Seems like he didn't want to gently caress with electrical and undo whatever that run was attached to.
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HolHorsejob posted:I think this is the cheapest plumbing setup I've ever seen. I'm hard-pressed to see how to skimp on material more than this. This must be underneath a sunken bathtub for the  . On a more serious note, would it be any better if he used a pair of 2x4s stacked instead of the half notched 2x8?
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I think I would have drilled through and used carriage bolts and nuts. In fact, I did, when I moved the location of an attic access hatch in order to clear some cabinets I was installing in the garage. Probably fine with the glue, though?
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Is that pipe cross threaded?
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Nenonen posted:The question I have is did they all develop there from tadpoles into grown frogs, in which case there's something for the tadpoles to eat, or did adult frogs invade the loo looking for food? Or are they all there just to have sex? As said above they're probably just enjoying somewhere cool and damp to escape the daytime heat. Green tree frogs are extremely common in central Australian toilets, when on a road trip up to the top end and back every public toilet was a game of 'spot the frog'. Hopefully having eaten the spiders. That many at once is unusual, though.
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Nov 21, 2023 09:22
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Darchangel posted:I think I would have drilled through and used carriage bolts and nuts. I thought glued and screwed was the proper way to attach a doubler to a joist but I’m also a previous owner in the making so I invite someone to correct me.
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Clayton Bigsby posted:Is that pipe cross threaded? Looks that way from here.
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CarForumPoster posted:I thought glued and screwed was the proper way to attach a doubler to a joist but I’m also a previous owner in the making so I invite someone to correct me. Also a previous owner but wood glue tends to be stronger than the wood itself and that is a heck of a lot of glue. I would have done bolts, personally, but if someone told me glue was the right way I’d believe it.
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CarForumPoster posted:I thought glued and screwed was the proper way to attach a doubler to a joist but I’m also a previous owner in the making so I invite someone to correct me. Oh, the glue is no problem. I just figure bolts and nuts to be suspenders to the glue's belt. And I will undoubtedly be a previous owner, but I hope not too egregiously. Obsoletely Fabulous posted:Also a previous owner but wood glue tends to be stronger than the wood itself and that is a heck of a lot of glue. I would have done bolts, personally, but if someone told me glue was the right way I’d believe it. That's my thinking.
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The correct way to sister joists and rafters is in fact carriage bolts, or at least nails if you are only adding a single sister. Glue is not a structural fastener.
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corgski posted:Glue is not a structural fastener. Pfft, next thing you'll tell me is that drywall shouldn't bear structural loads!
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corgski posted:The correct way to sister joists and rafters is in fact carriage bolts, or at least nails if you are only adding a single sister. Glue is not a structural fastener. maybe I'm an idiot, but structural adhesives are definitely a thing, it seems fine to me. the glue will be stronger than the wood
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Just make the entire house out of glue.
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ComradePyro posted:maybe I'm an idiot, but structural adhesives are definitely a thing, it seems fine to me. the glue will be stronger than the wood It's not about whether there are adhesives labeled structural adhesives or not, it's about what code says is appropriate, and no code I've read will let you just glue to a joist to sister it.
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ComradePyro posted:maybe I'm an idiot, but structural adhesives are definitely a thing, it seems fine to me. the glue will be stronger than the wood Since adhesives are not generally used in housing construction, I assume building codes don't consider them in their standards. Contractors are going to use mechanical fasteners because they're fast and easy. Glue is probably excellent for the job, but nobody has developed any standards for it so we don't know for sure.
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There is so much fail going on here it's hard to quantify, but aside from the honking hole in those joists, it looks like someone stole their load bearing wall.
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ComradePyro posted:maybe I'm an idiot, but structural adhesives are definitely a thing, it seems fine to me. the glue will be stronger than the wood You are not an idiot, but a bond is only as strong as the mating faces. Are you going to trust that whomever assembles that will be doing the rigorous required surface prep necessary to create that bond? Nails or carriage bolts as well. and corgski posted:It's not about whether there are adhesives labeled structural adhesives or not, it's about what code says is appropriate, and no code I've read will let you just glue to a joist to sister it.
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Harry_Potato posted:There is so much fail going on here it's hard to quantify, but aside from the honking hole in those joists, it looks like someone stole their load bearing wall. This is a picture a friend of mine sent me when I asked how their renovation was going.  Here is the same area after repairs. Imasalmon fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Nov 22, 2023 |
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:Just make the entire house out of glue. 3D printing I think this (9:30) is where I got glue and screw for doublers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23amU7EWy7g He says dont screw because people use drywall screws but I'm using #8 torx head coated deck screw for any project like this which has roughly the same shear strength as a 16d framing nail.
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ComradePyro posted:maybe I'm an idiot, but structural adhesives are definitely a thing, it seems fine to me. the glue will be stronger than the wood Certain types of glues, like in those huge laminated arched beams that sometimes make up the roofs of certain commercial buildings, I haven't read closely here but PVA glue is not one of those.
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Imasalmon posted:This is a picture a friend of mine sent me when I asked how their renovation was going.  Joist ouroboros
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Imasalmon posted:This is a picture a friend of mine sent me when I asked how their renovation was going. I'm no pro, but I don't think joist hangers work like that.
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