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WeaponX posted:Kissinger is dead and the Rangers are back on top of the league. Balance is restored. back on top? back from when?
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Jamwad Hilder posted:1994 I guess Lets go Raynjahs baby, love da Raynjahs.
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Matt Zerella posted:Lets go Raynjahs baby, love da Raynjahs. 
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mcmagic posted:back on top? back from when? https://www.theonion.com/rangers-win-stanley-cup-15-years-ago-1819570832
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Mr. Kite posted:That just made me feel old. Gotta be an improvement over what being a Kings fan typically feels like.
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Mind_Taker posted:The Capitals keep bullshitting wins and I like that -5 goal differential and in the playoff hunt babyyyyy Only 5 Ovi goals is pretty depressing though.
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It's going to be quite the anticlimax if Ovi falls 20 goals short of Gretzky purely because he lost like 1.5 seasons to lockouts.
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They are currently at the same number of goals per game in their careers, but Ovi missing games in those peak years is rough. But I think he’ll get back into gear soon. No worries, just the entire club basically betting on it to keep the fans engaged…
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's going to be quite the anticlimax if Ovi falls 20 goals short of Gretzky purely because he lost like 1.5 seasons to lockouts. Couple of things about this: #1, Gretzky also lost a half season to a lockout in 94-95. #2 NHL seasons were 80 games for most of his career, not 82 (13 seasons) Which is 26 games, though there were also 2 seasons at 84 games, so its 22 total games. So Ovi really has only lost ~60 games to what NHL was structured like during Gretzky's career, not 1.5 seasons.
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's going to be quite the anticlimax if Ovi falls 20 goals short of Gretzky purely because he lost like 1.5 seasons to lockouts. Ovie should be there now. He's at 827 now, we'll say he missed 45 in his age 18 season since he scored 52 the following year and probably wasn't as good at 18. For 2012, give him a 1-1 conversion from his KHL stats to add another 19 which seems close enough as it brings him to 51 which would be in line with his surrounding seasons. That gets him to 891 but then Wayne needs a couple added for his half season. He scored 23 the following year so add another 12 for him to get to 907. So without workstoppages Ovie is probably in the neighborhood 10-20 back depending on how those seasons played out. Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:#2 NHL seasons were 80 games for most of his career, not 82 (13 seasons) Which is 26 games, though there were also 2 seasons at 84 games, so its 22 total games. Oh yeah, and those were Wayne's silly years too. That's probably something like 15 more for him (that's a 54 goal pace which might even be low for early Gretz). So like 30ish back then. pseudodragon fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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Ovie also missed a bit of the 2020 season due to Covid.
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's going to be quite the anticlimax if Ovi falls 20 goals short of Gretzky purely because he lost like 1.5 seasons to lockouts. the one that gets me is Jagr and games played. He really deserves the Mr. Hockey name as much as anyone since Howe. He could have hit 2000 NHL games played if not for the lockouts and Russia. 4 full seasons and another 60 would put him at 2030 or something.
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Ya his pace for those is ~16.5 goals he misses out on.
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https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1730259260095840336 oh man lets get some takes Leon Draisaitl is very good defensively now everyone.
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I'm pretty sure Ovi will still get the record. He's had slow starts before (albeit when he was younger) and still ended up fine. I think a lot of it is luck. He's shooting as much as he always has, but he's converting on 7% when he's usually in the 13-14% range. He could also use a better center, I think they play him with Kuznetsov a lot but Strome seems like the better choice. Washington is clearly in a downturn, despite their recent success, but if they're serious about Ovechkin breaking the record they should probably try to get some players to help improve the team a bit too. They've got like 6 mil in cap space or something so it's definitely doable, and easy to justify while they're holding down this playoff spot.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Jagr chose to gently caress off to Russia though which is very different So did Ovechkin.
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I think the better the Capitals are, and the less Ovi is producing actually leads to him scoring less goals not more. If they have a shot to go far and Ovi is somehow holding them back, they'll back off his minutes some. If they sucked poo poo his minutes wouldn't matter. Edit: He's leading the team in scoring with 12 points?? What in the world.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1730259260095840336 thanks for letting me know I don't need to click the link
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:the one that gets me is Jagr and games played. He really deserves the Mr. Hockey name as much as anyone since Howe. He could have hit 2000 NHL games played if not for the lockouts and Russia. 4 full seasons and another 60 would put him at 2030 or something. Yeah, Jagr was ridiculous. He also missed the half season for 94-95 so let's say 25 for that. He scored 31 and 54 surrounding the lockout so we'll just say 40 to keep it simple. The year before and after leaving for his 3 year Russia trip he had 25 and 19 which lines up with how he did there (25-22-19 in ~50 game seasons) so we'll just give him the 66. He wasn't the same Jagr by 2013 so we'll just give him 10 there. An extra 141 puts him at 901. Howe getting credit for his 6 WHA years would be crazy too if we're adding other leagues. He had 174 in the WHA for 975, but it's probably not a straight 1-1 translation. He never had more than 34 so he wasn't putting up super inflated numbers though. He had 15 in his comeback NHL season so he could still play. Just giving him the 15 a year would put him at 892. 20 a year gets him to 922.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1730259260095840336 https://twitter.com/hockeystatcards/status/1729265479616020676?s=20 Trouba not a net negative this year 
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's going to be quite the anticlimax if Ovi falls 20 goals short of Gretzky purely because he lost like 1.5 seasons to lockouts. How much time did Gretzky lose? Half a season for the 95? I can’t even remember how long that was Plus injuries ovechkin generally hasn’t had Would ovechkin have been a rookie in 2005 if that season was played?
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Levitate posted:Would ovechkin have been a rookie in 2005 if that season was played? He was drafted the year before Sid but they would up coming into the league together post-lockout.
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Its not even 100% that Ovi would have played in the NHL in the lockout year. He was signed in Russia for another season. Edit: Rumour was Dynamo wanted somewhere between 3-5 million for his release to happen.
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managed to post that without reading all the discussion about it that answered my questions anyways, hah I find it a bit hard to cheer for ovechkin breaking the record since he has always been a Rangers nemesis and also i think it'd make people just a little bit mad if he doesn't and fuel more angry "who is the best goal scorer in history" rants for years to come I also think it's entirely possible that at 38 hsi shooting percentage isn't a lock to return to his career average. Age comes for everyone and players don't always gracefully age and decline in a linear fashion tarbrush posted:https://twitter.com/VGK_PR/status/1730009398540660973?t=kkY_CKQvncuaS_a8o0WUPg&s=19 Crying tears for Vegas over here that poor franchise that has never experienced success
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Matt Zerella posted:https://twitter.com/hockeystatcards/status/1729265479616020676?s=20 I was told he was bad tho In all honesty he had a couple of blocks that probably saved the game last night. Oh captain my captain.
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Aphrodite posted:Player ratings are the Dom Luszczyszyn numbers that rate Jared Spurgeon the best defenseman in the league. Yeah but when the player is on my team it’s correct
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Aphrodite posted:I'm glad NYR loves him so much because he is very bad, especially this season. Aphrodite posted:Player ratings are the Dom Luszczyszyn numbers that rate Jared Spurgeon the best defenseman in the league. the nerds say you're wrong!! Repent! : Matt Zerella posted:https://twitter.com/hockeystatcards/status/1729265479616020676?s=20  pay no attention to at least one of the nerds saying I'm wrong and Kakko is bad. He will never be bad, he is perfect.
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Trouba really hasn't been bad this season people just mad because da raynja's are back baby
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My guess is he probably got sloshed and said something highly inappropriate to a sponsor rep at that holiday party.
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If it was that simple we'd know it by now. The Blackhawks and NHL are furiously working to keep it firmly under the rug.
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He broke the seal and did a big ole piss on the logo. Maybe an upper decker as well.
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