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Solefald
Jun 9, 2010

sleepy~capy


NotJustANumber99 posted:

I'll make up a bed for you in the shipping container and maybe even rent back a portoloo for you.

Rude.
But for real, dibs on bedroom 3 for the house warming party thnx

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Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal
I'm the kitchen as far away from the carport as possible. But maybe the house is so smart that it has groceries delivered automatically?

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp

Solefald posted:

which bedroom would you guys pick? I kinda like the idea of Bedroom 3 even without the ensuit and dressing room

I'll be down the pub

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I could adrian newey the gently caress out of it and create something like this?



Like an aerodynamic heatpump wing to direct air away from the fence smoothly rather and butting straight into it?

There is a solution here that you're not considering. You know that extra-huge foundation? Dig a trench underneath the house and port the air intake for the heat pump through it. Would redirecting the intake on a unit not intended for that cause undue wear on the fan motor? I'll be honest with you, yes. Would it pull dirt inside, further accelarating the unit's maintenance and replacement timetables? Of course. However would it allow you to get the maximum functionality out of the unit for the time it does survive? Almost certainly not, surprisingly.

I feel like it checks all the boxes.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Is it an exhaust air heat pump or a regular one? If the former, it can work more easily in a confined space.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I could adrian newey the gently caress out of it and create something like this?



Like an aerodynamic heatpump wing to direct air away from the fence smoothly rather and butting straight into it?

Put it on a pedestal for all to admire

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
The “Simeon Stylites” Heat Pump!

Lord Awkward
Feb 16, 2012

vanity slug posted:

Put it on a pedestal for all to admire

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

The “Simeon Stylites” Heat Pump!

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I've also ordered my internet connection. So you do it through whatever internet company you like and they talk to BT Openreach who have to come out and perform the actual connection. Its Fibre to the premises.

So openreach have sent me a text and no worries theyre coming in two weeks to do it.



Hmmm.

1. youre not drilling any small holes in my building

2. not sure a guy with a drill is really going to cut it



I have laid conduit from under the front wall by the access from the pavement at the streetside all the way round the drive, through a data box in the ground and then on to the end of the house where the garage is. This is all buried and has a drawstring in it. Its completely buried at the road end. The tarmac pavement will have to be dug up to find it, and then dug back across the pub carpark entrance way to the telegraph post in front of the pub which has the internet on it. The pub uses its car park every day for however many customers/deliveries etc, so they will need to be negotiated with them.

Then when you get to the house I've put conduit up the side to the eaves, under the cladding which then goes across the carport ceiling, penetrates the building proper and runs the full length of the loft in one of the triangular access runs before coming out of a socket into the cupboard area at the far end of the loft with the data cabinet in.

Its probably a couple 100m of fibre.

So... presumably BT openreach has all this written down somewhere and arent actually just going to send a guy out with a drill on the day?

Anyway. I replied YES

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
They are absolutely going to send a guy out with a drill.

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

withak posted:

They are absolutely going to send a guy out with a drill.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Just imagining the guy turning up before you get there and drilling the hole, and the house just deflates and flies around making that sad farting sound.

E: in seriousness, have you asked to be put through to a supervisor? Someone with more authority might have more idea what to do than the trainee running off a flowchart where every option points to either 'drill a hole in the wall' or 'arrange another appointment so someone else can drill a hole in the wall.'

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Nov 30, 2023

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp
they're using independent installers these days

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Realistically, if the guy shows up early he is going to drill several preemptive holes so that he can run the wire through whichever location you prefer when you arrive.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

A guy with a drill will show and then hopefully have the right back office connection to summon the crew with the excavators, or at least tell you the secret methods for causing them to be summoned.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



They are totally going to send a guy with a drill who will have zero notes on the site because sales don’t share anything you tell them with the engineers.
He will show up and then ring his supervisor because he can’t do anything. The supervisor will either add some useful internal notes to the call and make the right thing happen - or alternatively you will just go back to the start and the same will happen again.

They sent a residential install engineer to my prison building site the other day even after I told them they would need to come supply me with detailed RAMS and do a site induction before any works…..

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



Is the guy with the drill just going to lay the fiber on the ground?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

It wouldn't be the first contractor to lay cable on-site.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
I have one of those that I still need to get my landlord to agree to. From what I understand, they want to put in a box that will go roughly where the current phone master socket is, but they also want it within 1m of a plug socket because that's the longest power cable they want to supply.

Of course, the master socket in my house is nowhere near a plug socket (it's presumably in the same place as when the house was built in the 70s), so I have no clue where to put the thing and where they would drill said hole. But they are REALLY loving keen to install it, determined that I don't cancel the thing because I'm not interested in dealing with that bullshit right now. I assume there's some network they're trying to decommission.

There are some stories out there about the quality of their contractors "making good" after the installations as well. You gotta watch them like a hawk apparently.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Tomarse posted:

They sent a residential install engineer to my prison building site the other day even after I told them they would need to come supply me with detailed RAMS and do a site induction before any works…..

I didn't know you could order outside internet service from prison.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
It comes in in a cake.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

don't underestimate the bandwidth of a cake full of USB sticks

the latency is terrible, but you can stream a months worth of movies in 4k, installs of several big games, and all the porn you can wank to, from just one cake

devicenull
May 30, 2007

Grimey Drawer

withak posted:

They are absolutely going to send a guy out with a drill.

Bold of you to assume he's going to have a drill.

Does the guy showing up need a break room?

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Mustache Ride posted:

Is the guy with the drill just going to lay the fiber on the ground?

It's the builder's responsibility to lay telecom conduit inside the property up to the demarcation point.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

When I had the guy here to install my symmetrical gigabit he saw my sim racing rig and I ended up getting him in it driving a rally car for awhile. It was fun and he was good and I like Novus internet very much! I hope you get a xmas miracle OP.

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.
Yeah, there's got to be zero chance that anything useful happens on this first go-round, or probably the next 3 either.

They're definitely assuming that there's some fibre distribution box on a pole in a straight-line of like 20 feet that they'll just string through the air and stick through a hole anywhere they feel like and then it's your problem.

Telecoms aren't prepared for techno-wizardry like "conduit" or "data cabinet" in residential installs.

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


My fibre installation required 4 cable runs, 1 of which was through broken conduit in the street. Original guy from the first isp said he wouldn't do it and left, so we hired a guy ourselves to sort out the first two runs (in our like 3m front garden). Original isp still wouldn't send another guy for like 2 months so we switched isp to get someone faster - he then discovered that the cabling in the street was also a cluster gently caress but was really nice and hung around to sort it out. Anyway that's my fibre installation story.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Leperflesh posted:

don't underestimate the bandwidth of a cake full of USB sticks

the latency is terrible, but you can stream a months worth of movies in 4k, installs of several big games, and all the porn you can wank to, from just one cake

I thought it was more traditional for porn to come in a pie?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Right. Its freezing cold every day and this is all horrible. more horrible

So Im deciding to spend time in the bathrooms during the day...

I'm also plotting heatpump heating scenarios.... and ordering

but need to work during the day.



Primed the walls and floor of bathroom with a special acrylic primer. Because you can never just do the thing. You've always gotta go spend money on something special.

Also I need to absolutely make sure all this plumbing is gonna work as its gonna get built in



takes like 5 goes. Its dogshit. They say the hep2o connectors are perfect and never fail and yeah sure they seem great. Then you have to connect into the toilet cistern and its a plastic screw tap to deal with?!?! wtf?!?! Just loving make the toilets be hep2o



Anyway.

Nice jackson pollock shitstorm incase anyone ever opens this cabinet up.

Tape up back of room for watertightness





I'll do more of the rest of the room later maybe. Wait and see what I've got left over.

then paint on tanking plastic paint stuff



hmmm. Whats stopping me from doing the rest of the bathrooms is not knowing exactly what I'm doing for it all.



the plan

and delivered today. very cheap



needs cutting up

but gently caress, its really heavy... maybe I can make it smaller?



nope. the sinks I've bought are pretty big.



Just gonna have to see if it works I guess

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

NotJustANumber99 posted:

hmmm. Whats stopping me from doing the rest of the bathrooms is not knowing exactly what I'm doing for it all.



the plan

have you ever cut a really long mitered joint like that? Do you care if they join up beautifully or have a huge gap?

What I would do is not do that because my experience is that it never quite lines up right because cutting a long 45.00 degree edge is hard and it is much easier to do like a rebate or butt joint and then put a face frame with lovely little miters on it to look nice on the end.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Leperflesh posted:

have you ever cut a really long mitered joint like that? Do you care if they join up beautifully or have a huge gap?

What I would do is not do that because my experience is that it never quite lines up right because cutting a long 45.00 degree edge is hard and it is much easier to do like a rebate or butt joint and then put a face frame with lovely little miters on it to look nice on the end.

no I havent am I'm terrified to the point i'm looking to maybe pay someone to do it.....

but we know how that usually goes.

Could you show me what you mean by this:

butt joint and then put a face frame with lovely little miters on it to look nice on the end.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
also do you think its mental trying to cantilever out that unit with the basin on it, and obviously people leaninfg on it,etc?

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

that's Doctor Brain to you

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Could you show me what you mean by this:

butt joint and then put a face frame with lovely little miters on it to look nice on the end.

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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
and people ask why I havent finished this house yet.

niethan
Nov 22, 2005

Don't be scared, homie!

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


I've got to admit that while you're in the middle of a multiyear house building project ordering a bathroom cabinet that requires actual carpentry to assemble is real commitment to the bit.

niethan
Nov 22, 2005

Don't be scared, homie!
Just do dovetails, you have a saw, right?

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
There is no loving way that sink frame will stay in place without something supporting it at the front. Also, why hide the plumbing and make it totally impossible to maintain?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i think it will stay in place. And hide the plumbing because its ugly. it wont need maintenance as it will be expertly fitted in the first place.

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distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


You can definitely buy sink cabinets that are floating like that so I don't see why that part couldn't work.

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