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Failed Imagineer posted:Nice to see that your particular madness is genetic. This thread makes so much more sense now.
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Wibla posted:Heatpumps made for the Nordic market will handle -25C without much issue, but obviously the COP factor is no longer 5 at that point We just put the air source heat pumpt hrough a week of temps between -25 to -32C here and it performed without problems. I don't like to think what the COP has been like however. I think it helps too that it's the garage, less hunidity in that air since it's not full of people. Read in the news paper that many people with ASHPs in their homes (and there are a lot, Finland is the most heatpump dense country per capita atm) have had issues in the cold with the drainage for the condensate mainly freezing over and blocking it.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Read in the news paper that many people with ASHPs in their homes (and there are a lot, Finland is the most heatpump dense country per capita atm) have had issues in the cold with the drainage for the condensate mainly freezing over and blocking it. Another black eye for heat pumps, my boiler condensate pipe froze a few years back and it was nowhere near -25.
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His Divine Shadow posted:We just put the air source heat pumpt hrough a week of temps between -25 to -32C here and it performed without problems.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Would the opposite be a problem though? i.e. Would a pump designed for colder temps struggle in 30° summer? No, cooling is much easier than heating. It's a lot easier to dump heat into even 35 C than to extract heat from -15 C. Heat pumps are 'rated' by their heat numbers because the cooling will always be more efficient. For example mine can reach COP of almost 4 when cooling at max capacity at 35 C. When heating at -25 C max capacity the COP drops to 1.5. They don't provide the numbers but I'm assuming it's barely better than baseboard electric at -30 or lower. Conveniently I live somewhere that can hit both of those temperatures.
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vanity slug posted:can't believe you didn't just route your sewage into the neighbour's garden, like any self-respecting water company in england Also, I've just read through this whole thread in the last couple of weeks and it's been a real trip. Still don't understand why the front door (I think?) and/or literally everything else has an internet connection, but it's been a great read and actually looks like a house now
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Failed Imagineer posted:With the airy consistency of the blocks, I think it legally counts as a cake Wiring enthusiast discovers one weird trick to win Is It Cake?, TV producers hate him
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Failed Imagineer posted:With the airy consistency of the blocks, I think it legally counts as a cake with starch (wood) on the sides and roof it is actually a breadbowl/quiche or sushi (if you consider the roof starch layer too porous)
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Hello. Well after a pretty limp finish to 2023, I seem to have started the new year with equal pace and vigour. So done gently caress all, god knows how we're two weeks in already? Tomorrow will be a month since my first BT openreach appointment when they claimed to be installing my fibre to the property internet. Their 6th site visit concluded yesterday in another defeat and with the £40 billion pound telecoms monopoly unsure how to proceed. Here is my current understanding of things:  So there is an existing duct of fibre running straight past my entrance to a manhole outside the pub in front of the telegraph post where there is a terminal block thingy that distributes the fibre of out to each individual property. Their job is to run a new fibre down the post from that terminal block, pull it through the couple of meters to the manhole, then pull it through their duct till it is level with my driveway. Then they need to dig the pavement up between their duct and the end of my duct installed to my property boundary. Install a T to their duct and connect it to mine. Then pull the fibre the rest if the way round my fresh, virgin drawstrung pipeway, through my box and to the footings of the building. Then pull back a second fibre from inside where my server cabinet is to meet the first fibre and splice these together in a little plastic box that sits hidden away on the end of the house. Test its all good and bang, I'm internetting. The "civils boys" (the ones with spades and ladders) arrived unannounced shortly after new year but were unable to proceed because, given no warning, there is an unknown car parked on the manhole. They aren't allowed to knock on doors until after 9am but give up anyway and agree to come back monday and try again. I will laminate a sign and stick it to the post saying please dont park here and possibly leave a vehicle there myself to reserve the space. I'm away for the weekend where I do things like study the party airBnB's fridge setup (with very nice electrics). I am the life and soul of the party and do not find it awkward and difficult to socialise.   Potentially this is the end game for my loft. Fill it full of beds and charge pisscans loads of money to sleep off their hangovers in it. Anyway back bright and early for monday morning and I can barely walk and am so not up for this. Anyway BT arrive and the manhole is accessible and away they go.   My parent have flown back to France leaving the campervan. Its freezing and I feel like poo poo so I sit in there.  This is a step up from the breakroom.  But I don't have a TV license so can't watch that. I find a bag of stale bombay mix and think about my life  Things are not going well outside and they break the first fibre. They manage to pull a second most of the way then lose the drawstring a few metres short of the inground box on my property. they give up and will come back tomorrow. Here is an old photo of roughly where the fibre must have fallen off the drawstring. They want to dig down and break into the duct to push/pull it through to the box. Whatever. I just wanted to show them that y fat power cable is there too so be careful.  I leave them to it and they seem to get it done. Holes filled back over, fibre pulled through!    Now I need to wait for another engineer to come and do the house side of things, like the first guy that came but didnt have a long enough roll of fibre to do it. He turns up... not early in the day.  So one of the things he needs to do is go up the telegraph post to make the final connection and test the line. He won't be able to do that today because he's not allowed to climb the post in the dark. So not getting finished this visit. But we do pull through the in house section of the fibre. Even though he technically wasn't allowed up my ladder into the loft. Theres an access point on my in house ducting where it passes through from the garage into the house service triangle which is handy to pull through as it wasn't very willing to pull round several bends in one go.   He doesn't like the outside bit as he says there isn't really enough room to make the splice he will have to do here. I point out that also all thats stopping the fence from falling on him is that haphazardly wedged stake and he shuts up a bit. We'll do the splice tomorrow when he can see what he's doing better.  And heres the inside at the cabinet. Turn out I should have kept the single socket not changed it for a double.  He's got excited and plugged it in. of course theres still no electricity in any of the actual walls. Oh and the access point in the garage roof is too tight to safely bend the fibre round so it looks like this at the moment.  Hmmm. On site bright and early for his 8:00am arrival next morning.  He arrives like 30 mins earlier than the day before and its nearly pitch black. Nice. We study the pole together anyway.  Turns out the "civils boys" have done half a job. They havent pulled through the fibre from the pole. Only from the manhole. So we're going to need to get back in there and pull the other end back through to the base of the post and up it.  Hes got lots of toys and the manhole lid is heavy as bananas.  Theres a few problems though. So turns out the end of the fibre already has some important connector thing on the end of it to plug into the terminal thing up the pole and it can't be hosed with on site. But its fat. Thats why you pull the fibre all the way through from the end point.  Because it proves loving impossible to try and backpull if up the other way no matter how much kit he gets out of his tardis van. He employs some dark arts that I can't go into here. But we are defeated and cannot pull it back the few metres from man hole to pole. Theres also an issue with the amount of fibre left coiled up in the manhole, far too much to just run up the pole. He says it will need to be pulled through at the other end... So back to this photo from earlier: You see that sort of skinny hosepipe red and white bit thats going into the ground? That is what the "civils boys" have used to bridge the underground gap between the existing BT ducting and my new 100mm ducting. It is apparently what they use for final metre connections, like if my house was right there where that wall is, not to join between larger sections of ducting. The reason they struggled and snapped fibres previously is because theyve bodged this for no clear reason. So my engineer man, who is great and helpful, can't climb the pole now anyway as its pitch black but its kind of a moot point now anyway. Well he reckons he could bring another fibre next time, run it down the post and splice it onto the coiled up bit in the manhole. But this is totally not what theyre supposed to do as its full of water down there and over time the joint will degrade, water will get in and frost action will shatter the fibre. He takes my picture of the dumb thin hose and says he'll kick it back up to the boss and see what to do. Likely send the "civils boys" back to dig back up what they've done and replace it with proper duct and/or dig up the existing duct between the pole and hole to pull that through. But we'll see. So yeah, no internet yet. In other news, I've finished, for now, all the wiring in the plantroom, got it out of the way at least so the rest of the room can be prepared to put in all the copper to run the heating to start drying out the house so it can i dunno... be housed.  pretty neat i think  I've decided to tile the floor in here with whatever cheap/freebie tiles I can find. But its so loving muddy and everytime I walk round it just gets worse. So I engineer some decking. It was intended to be temporary but I think I might keep it.    Bathroom! So I was right all along and despite your faith in my abilities to do that bevel edge thing on the vanity unit   I'm gonna do this instead. Obviously those leftover sewer pipe legs aren't ideal... Its a bit bulkier than I envisaged. And access for pooing is a bit tight. Probably the sink I've bought could have been smaller. Anyway I'll shrink it down a bit, widen the toilet area and recentre the toilet.   So the waste will determine how shallow I can make the unit. Need access at the bottom to undo it for blockages. I realise to recentre the toilet 5cm over to the right will require like the whole thing being dismantled and reconfigured. So... backwards again   If I put the dirgo air admittance shaft on the left instead then I can shift things up without having to hack away at the timbers which, given I'm still planning on having the vanity unit hang off them is probably better. But part of why it was how it was is because a T piece left the waste to high to receive the toilet. poo poo doesn't flow uphill.  But further research reveals not all T's are equal. (even thought they are literally called equal Ts)   So thats much nicer. Just need to stop writing this and get to site and finish it really. NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jan 13, 2024 |
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Ah, so you also had the "He's not allowed to use ladders in the dark" experience.
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Which would be fine, if he didn't refuse to turn up in daylight.
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Lmfao that manhole puller is the most europ*an poo poo I’ve ever seen
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NotJustANumber99 posted:My parent have flown back to France leaving the campervan. Its freezing and I feel like poo poo so I sit in there.
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We had a pallet patio for 18 months, surprisingly good and effective.
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Continuing the tradition of goons turning their yard into WW1 battlefields. At least you won't get trench foot though.
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a miter joint was always wrong because obviously in a bathroom, a butt joint is the only option
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Cat Hatter posted:Continuing the tradition of goons turning their yard into WW1 battlefields. At least you won't get trench foot though. What if it's for content? I know I've got my fingers crossed.
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Leperflesh posted:a miter joint was always wrong because obviously in a bathroom, a butt joint is the only option We call them bum joints in the UK.
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BT came again today. Two vans. There was a car parked on the manhole again but they managed to just open half of it with the car still there. Then they wiggled it all about a bit and huffed and puffed and rang the boss. Now the other guys are going to get sent back to dig up the duct from the hole to the pole and try to get the end of the fibre fed through that way.  I think theres still some other unresolved issues that will crop back up but whatever. Their problem to solve. Splattered the camper.  Rebuilt the bathroom vanity backbox thing with smaller cantilevered box.    Bloody saw burnt the only really visible cut this time. Dunno why. Have to try and sand it. Rerouted sewer pump control stuff and put the box up high above the trunking where theres nothing else going. Collecting some clearance tiles later that I'll tile the plant room with tomorrow. Probably. Got a little heater in there as its down in the negative temps at the moment.  
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NotJustANumber99 posted:BT came again today. Two vans. There was a car parked on the manhole again but they managed to just open half of it with the car still there. Then they wiggled it all about a bit and huffed and puffed and rang the boss. Now the other guys are going to get sent back to dig up the duct from the hole to the pole and try to get the end of the fibre fed through that way. I think you've activated an infinite loop of The Lads pointing at The Other Lads and passing the job back and forth
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Rebuilt the bathroom vanity backbox thing with smaller cantilevered box. This seems weird to me, but I suppose I haven't looked in my walls/slab to see exactly how wastewater is routed in the US. First of all, y'all don't use roof vents for your plumbing? I'm guessing that cap on the left is a 1-way valve that allows air in/out when the toilet is flushed? Does this not create an airleak in the house? How does it prevent sewer gas stink from entering the house? Second, the way your sink drains directly into the drain for the toilet seems bizarre. I suppose unless you have a really bad problem where your sewer backs up this is a non-issue, but it seems like a blockage at the toilet could clog or back up your sink. Edit: Leperflesh posted:there's like a dozen problems and issues with having all your wire and cable infrastructure on poles instead of buried, including having them fall over or catch on fire, being an absolute blight on the landscape, etc. but it does at least make it simpler for the lads to get fiber to our houses out here in california Lol, we got google fiber in Austin, and Google had initially planned to do installations via running fiber along our utility poles. Despite the utility poles being owned by the City of Austin, they are leased to the various telecom and cable providers. There is some ridiculous law or rule saying that for an installer to access those utility poles they have to have permission from the other telecoms. I believe the story was that for google to install fiber along those poles, the telecoms said that they must be on site to observe their installation and make sure Google's installers didn't damage the other lines. As you can imagine, they made enough demands that basically meant google could not gain access to the utility poles at all. As a result they had to bury all of the fiber underground and the vast majority of Austin is built on top of lime stone so it required tons of digging and drilling to run underground conduit. I think eventually they said they would not be building out any more of the network because it was too costly to do this. Texas also bans municipal ISPs, so we can't have nice things. We did get Google Fiber in my neighborhood, however, and it' has been 99.99% reliable. Absolutely love it. MetaJew fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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MetaJew posted:This seems weird to me, but I suppose I haven't looked in my walls/slab to see exactly how wastewater is routed in the US. Every 1 in 5 or so houses is supposed to have a roof vent when connected to mains sewer. I'm connected to mains sewer but I've got my big underground poo pumping station inbetween so I do indeed have to have my own roof vent to prevent gas buildup and explosion. I've got that at the far end of the house at the end of the sewer run. This and the ensuite are little tributary sewer runs and have the loft above them so I've opted for the air admittance valve on these runs. It is supposed to not let smells out, Ive used them previously in my brother and parents places and not had any negative reports although to be fair I am pretty good at ignoring emails from family if it looks like it says something is wrong and I need to fix it. I did briefly wonder whether I've done this in a dumb way but decided its probably fine? Not so much worried about the toilet blocking the sink waste as you'd kind of know about the problem straight away. I'm more worried that the flushing toilet could pull a vacuum on the sink waste trap and suck the water out leaving a route for smells to enter until the tap was run again. The way it was before the dirgo (AAV) served both independently. I could conceivably move the connection to the vertical stack again? Or setup a separate bypass to vent it. Need to decide before I box it all in.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I did briefly wonder whether I've done this in a dumb way but decided its probably fine? Not so much worried about the toilet blocking the sink waste as you'd kind of know about the problem straight away. I'm more worried that the flushing toilet could pull a vacuum on the sink waste trap and suck the water out leaving a route for smells to enter until the tap was run again. Just wash your hands after you do a poo
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Leperflesh posted:they ran fiber through my neighborhood late last year, and it's just on the poles, and I immediately started getting mailers from both AT&T and Sonic about how I could sign up to get fiber. Because all they gotta do is run it across the street, dangling from my electric line or whatever, and it's at my house. Bingo bango super simple. Of course it'll get hosed up when it rains too hard or a bird grips it strongly or someone's tree grows into it or whatever. As they say in old blighty, "swings and roundabouts". They ran it on poles instead of burying it?
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