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MassRafTer posted:At this point you could just have a revolving door doing into the room with Hunter, Heyman, John Cone and others. John Cone, is that the referee? Name sounds familiar but I didn’t know if the identity of the ref had been sleuthed.
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Ganso Bomb posted:John Cone, is that the referee? Name sounds familiar but I didn’t know if the identity of the ref had been sleuthed. He is the most frequently cited potential former ref as he went on to have an office job after. It could theoretically be any former ref but it comes down to which ref people think would be a Vince guy.
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DeathChicken posted:Back then you could just buy it straight from GNC, which they did What was it for aside from raping girls? Pylons posted:https://www.vice.com/en/article/epv757/co-defendant-in-vince-mcmahon-sex-trafficking-lawsuit-says-he-was-a-victim-too flip-a-ronni, Tony!
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Ganso Bomb posted:John Cone, is that the referee? Name sounds familiar but I didn’t know if the identity of the ref had been sleuthed. Thats father of wwe tag team champion Nicholas to you
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In case it's not becoming clear: Though Marchman is an outlier as... 1. A wrestling geek. 2. With extensive experience in trauma-informed reporting of both sex trafficking and sexual abuse more broadly. 3. Who has a female reporting partner (Anna Merlan) who's also great at #2. ...a bunch of outlets are working on stories right now. It seems like the Janel Grant lawsuit was the tipping point for a lot of outlets taking this seriously and devoting investigative reporting resources to WWE. Whether it's the scope, that it's a trafficking case, and/or that the specific allegations are so disturbing and well-documented, it seems to be getting through to media much more than past scandals. davidbix fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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davidbix posted:In case it's not becoming clear: Though Marchman is an outlier as... It's about time this poo poo is taken seriously and it's much worse than anyone even fathomed. May the fed burn.
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Genuinely nice to hear that it may finally, finally be given the thorough investigation it deserves. I hope they go as deep as they can.
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davidbix posted:In case it's not becoming clear: Though Marchman is an outlier as... I love this for them 
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1glitch0 posted:What was it for aside from raping girls? GHB simulates growth hormone production. So it was also used as a PED.
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Genuinely nice to hear that it may finally, finally be given the thorough investigation it deserves. I hope they go as deep as they can. I'm hoping it's Hockey Canada 2018 level intensive.
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The text messages probably really help as well as their awful real evidence that you can't explain away like some try to do for the allegations
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SatoshiMiwa posted:The text messages probably really help as well as their awful real evidence that you can't explain away like some try to do for the allegations Wasn't it the Jonathan Majors case where the text messages became a powerful piece of evidence that led to his conviction?
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Justin Godscock posted:I'm hoping it's Hockey Canada 2018 level intensive. Including holding sponsors accountable.
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Dango Bango posted:GHB simulates growth hormone production. So it was also used as a PED. I'm clearly out of my depth here. So it's a PED but also just knocks you out for hours?
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Eat This Glob posted:ghb, depending on dosage, can act a bit like booze in that it makes you feel good but can absolutely knock you out if you take too much. unlike booze, it causes your body to release more growth hormone. X-Pac said in his YouShoot interview that everyone stocked-up on GHB in England before the infamous Plane Ride from Hell because it was something you could pick up in health food stores at the time. I mean, there was other poo poo going on (like them killing three liquor carts before take-off) but, yeah, it can be used for bad reasons and was in 2002.
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Eat This Glob posted:ghb, depending on dosage, can act a bit like booze in that it makes you feel good but can absolutely knock you out if you take too much. unlike booze, it causes your body to release more growth hormone. Huh. I had no idea.
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I really expected Vince and Johnny to team up and coordinate a defence together, but them turning on each other is absolutely fantastic. loving eat each other alive you ghouls
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thepokey posted:I really expected Vince and Johnny to team up and coordinate a defence together, but them turning on each other is absolutely fantastic. loving eat each other alive you ghouls Vince is cut from the same cloth as Trump so I'd be surprised if he DIDN'T throw Johnny Ace under the bus. (Both can rot in hell)
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I keep thinking about how gross and upsetting that threesome had to be and just fuckin barf. Like right up there with that one pornographic image where the lady had the most miserable face and a can of green beans on her rump. Just poo poo you get stuck in your brain like dead bodies. Unseeable poo poo.
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Suplex Liberace posted:it is soul crushing to read, dont recommend it. It will put many many horrible unremovable images in your brain I gave the warnining the comment afterward was basically 'I always got the vibe he was a creep but goddamn' seems to be the common reaction of most people hearing and reading about it
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Truther Vandross posted:Honestly didn’t expect Laurinaitis to sing like a bird but boy is this reallllllll bad for Vince. It's not a huge surprise. I can't imagine he's worth more than a couple million at the very most and had no real future prospects before this. Any kind of defense and/or settlement would run the risk of bankrupting him. His only real options were to hope that Vince took care of his legal fees or make it clear that he's willing to flip and name names on camera and/or under oath. That Laurinitis' lawyer made such a public statement means the former hasn't happened, at least yet. Laurinitis and WWE have every interest in settling as quickly and quietly as possible and pointing the fingers at Vince and Vince alone. I know goons are standing outside Titan Towers with cans of gas and handfuls of matches but it wouldn't surprise me if all this led to a handful of quiet resignations and retirements that were most likely planned on post merger and TV deal. It may reduce some golden parachutes but they'll still deploy.
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Optimist with doubt posted:I do wonder what the likely hood of any criminal proceedings are and how many others will flip like Ace Highly doubtful, given the lack of criminal complaints, the near-certainty that any physical evidence has been destroyed, and Connecticut's statute of limitations on these cases is ... fuzzy at best. But Vince and his cronies are looking at a lot of civil liability.
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C. Everett Koop posted:It's not a huge surprise. I can't imagine he's worth more than a couple million at the very most and had no real future prospects before this. Any kind of defense and/or settlement would run the risk of bankrupting him. His only real options were to hope that Vince took care of his legal fees or make it clear that he's willing to flip and name names on camera and/or under oath. That Laurinitis' lawyer made such a public statement means the former hasn't happened, at least yet. It at the very least means Lauranitis can't simply play the "deny everything" card later on, and it makes it way, way harder for Vince to do the same. It feels like a concession it only makes sense to make if you are 100% convinced that the civil case is going to win and win big, and/or you have some reason to believe that more poo poo is going to come out which could land people in jail, and you want to establish yourself as a remorseful and potentially helpful witness ahead of the curve on that. At the very least it pours petrol on the fire, which is the opposite of what you'd do if you think "quietly settle the civil suit and slink off into obscurity" was a viable option.
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The other women named in the grand jury subpoena include a WWE contractor whom McMahon allegedly sent unsolicited nude photos and sexually harassed; a former WWE wrestler who said McMahon coerced her into giving him oral sex; former WWE referee Rita Chatterton, who publicly accused McMahon of raping her; a spa manager who said McMahon assaulted her at a Southern California resort; and a former WWE employee who alleged the head of talent relations at the company at the time, John Laurinaitis, demoted her after she broke off an affair with him.
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davidbix posted:We thought Vince and Laurinaitis's were aligned. We were wrong. Marchman's tweets with the key excerpts: "It's not my fault! Vince McMahon MADE me rape that woman! I'm a victim!!"
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Lid posted:https://www.wsj.com/business/federal-prosecutors-investigate-vince-mcmahon-sex-trafficking-allegations-460a6822 Anyone have a non-paywalled version?
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Lid posted:The other women named in the grand jury subpoena include a WWE contractor whom McMahon allegedly sent unsolicited nude photos and sexually harassed; a former WWE wrestler who said McMahon coerced her into giving him oral sex; former WWE referee Rita Chatterton, who publicly accused McMahon of raping her; a spa manager who said McMahon assaulted her at a Southern California resort; and a former WWE employee who alleged the head of talent relations at the company at the time, John Laurinaitis, demoted her after she broke off an affair with him. I didn't think it would take less than 24 hours for Johnny's defense to come crumbling down. Ok reading the article they've been investigating for months so it took negative time. Impressive. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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