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It might just be that being able to pause when offline gives would just be another incentive for people to ignore the online component entirely. Sekiro allowed pausing so its not like Fromsoft is against pausing on principle.
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Also modern FROM has released two completely offline campaigns: Sekiro and AC6, and they both have pause buttons. They're obviously not anti-pausing, but integrating pause into a game that's meant to be constantly online isn't as trivial as you make it sound. How do you handle invasions when the game is paused? What if you want to pause while someone is invading? Does pausing simply not work sometimes?
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veni veni veni posted:name another game with persistent online elements that are remotely comparable to dark souls that does this. At any given time there are messages, player ghosts running around and the potential for interaction with other players with varying levels of predictability. I don't see any way to let people pause without breaking those features. You can literally play the game without ps plus and you do not get access to these features, this isn’t the point you think it is
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Volte posted:Also modern FROM has released two completely offline campaigns: Sekiro and AC6, and they both have pause buttons. They're obviously not anti-pausing, but integrating pause into a game that's meant to be constantly online isn't as trivial as you make it sound. How do you handle invasions when the game is paused? What if you want to pause while someone is invading? Does pausing simply not work sometimes? Diablo 3 solved all these problems in like 2012.
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Volte posted:Also modern FROM has released two completely offline campaigns: Sekiro and AC6, and they both have pause buttons. They're obviously not anti-pausing, but integrating pause into a game that's meant to be constantly online isn't as trivial as you make it sound. How do you handle invasions when the game is paused? What if you want to pause while someone is invading? Does pausing simply not work sometimes? Yeah, this. If you try to pause when being invaded, it tells you that pausing is disabled. It's a real simple solution.
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Volte posted:It's to piss you off more games should piss off modern gamers who are too cushioned for autosaving save anywhere pause any time. theyve become too soft!!! im in talks with kojima right now to remove pausing during cutscenes in ds2
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Seriously, this has been solved for decades and every time souls fans can’t wrap their head around it lmao Must be str builds
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veni veni veni posted:name another game with persistent online elements that are remotely comparable to dark souls that does this. At any given time there are messages, player ghosts running around and the potential for interaction with other players with varying levels of predictability. I don't see any way to let people pause without breaking those features. All of those are asynchronous and don't require that time in your gameworld and someone else's runs at the same rate. It would be easy to have a pause button that works except when there's another player in your game Watchdogs 1 actually did that, but it had the side effect that you could get warned someone was stalking you by whether or not the map paused
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Deathloop has the same invasion mechanic and can be paused, btw
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:You can literally play the game without ps plus and you do not get access to these features, this isn’t the point you think it is There's also an offline mode I already acknowledged. Good job missing the point though.
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Deathloop has the same invasion mechanic and can be paused, btw It can also be disabled entirely, which I think any game with an invasion mechanic should have.
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veni veni veni posted:There's also an offline mode I already acknowledged. Good job missing the point though. Which can’t be paused
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Which can’t be paused Are you capable of reading? Go read my post again dumbshit.
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Hey, I'm all for pausing where applicable, but I also don't really blame them for not implementing it, both to make offline and online mode follow the same "rules" and also because it's just more engineering work to make it integrate properly with online mode when you can already save and quit anywhere without losing progress.
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Games should have pause
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There has been no pause in Souls games since the first one, but maybe this debate will finally make people stop getting angry online about it
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I would like to pause this discussion
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hey mom its 420 posted:I would like to pause this discussion 
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RandomHodge posted:There has been no pause in Souls games since the first one, but maybe this debate will finally make people stop getting angry online about it That is why they are bad games.
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Mr Hootington posted:That is why they are bad games. Great, you solved it. Maybe the thread can move on from this 15-year old argument now
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RandomHodge posted:There has been no pause in Souls games since the first one, but maybe this debate will finally make people stop getting angry online about it Demon's Souls didn't have pause because 100% of the game had invasions enabled, but in subsequent games that was true of less and less of the world. Is there a reason to ban pause when there's definitely not a real technical need to? Does it contribute to the game design? I guess it stops you from messing with your inventory without ensuring you're safe, are the vibes from that worth the occasional annoyance from not being able to step away within seconds when real life calls?
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haveblue posted:I guess it stops you from messing with your inventory without ensuring you're safe, are the vibes from that worth the occasional annoyance from not being able to step away within seconds when real life calls? The true gamers in this thread don’t let real life call them away from souls games
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haveblue posted:Demon's Souls didn't have pause because 100% of the game had invasions enabled, but in subsequent games that was true of less and less of the world. Is there a reason to ban pause when there's definitely not a real technical need to? Does it contribute to the game design? I guess it stops you from messing with your inventory without ensuring you're safe, are the vibes from that worth the occasional annoyance from not being able to step away within seconds when real life calls? Well, that's fine with the inventory and all that. Just have an option to pause. Monster Hunter, for example, has a Pause option in its menu - you can't fiddle with inventory stuff or anything, but you can step away if need be.
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Minotaurus Rex posted:It was this lmao. Thank you. That MF is loud as hell If you have the tiny, specific screwdriver that is needed you can fix it yourself pretty quickly. They should be like $3 on Amazon. https://youtu.be/Ij_peEXvpcU?si=Z8r7N5ZvVPh14ZRa
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haveblue posted:Demon's Souls didn't have pause because 100% of the game had invasions enabled, but in subsequent games that was true of less and less of the world. Is there a reason to ban pause when there's definitely not a real technical need to? Does it contribute to the game design? I guess it stops you from messing with your inventory without ensuring you're safe, are the vibes from that worth the occasional annoyance from not being able to step away within seconds when real life calls? I guess FromSoft thinks so. It doesn't bother me, I die all the fuckin time anyway so who cares if I die because I have to let the dog out or whatever. But I also don't really feel a need to defend it, I'm just tired (as someone who mostly lurks) of reading this same argument + accompanying anger/sarcasm what seems like every few weeks
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RandomHodge posted:Great, you solved it. Maybe the thread can move on from this 15-year old argument now Another dub. Racking them up daily. 
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I think the far more worrying possibility is that From programmers have simply forgotten how to add pause.
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They are an amateur indie dev working on a limited budget please be nice
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Vikar Jerome posted:toldya lol Thank ye too. It’s quiet as a mouse now sans disc
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well, glad we got that settled
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Paying2Lurk posted:If you have the tiny, specific screwdriver that is needed you can fix it yourself pretty quickly. They should be like $3 on Amazon. Good to know, thanks!
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why can't i pause helldivers 2
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i like that souls games have no pause button hth
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You can pause a game but you can not pause reality, and isn't realism the utmost goal of all video games? They should be applauded for making it more immersive.
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Pausestone Image: chunk of golden resin marbled with black and red The flow of time is distorted in these lands, and may be stopped by those who are desirous of tranquility. Use to pause time. Consumes runes while in use, and exits the game and deletes your save when runes are depleted. (Not available during online play. Pausing is not always possible.) Said to be resin of the Erdtree infused with Destined Death. Perhaps this is why maidens consider its use distasteful.
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acksplode posted:Perhaps this is why maidens consider its use distasteful. thread title
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omg chael crash posted:why can't i pause helldivers 2 You would dare to put a pause on democracy???? Mods, ban this sick filth. 
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omg chael crash posted:why can't i pause helldivers 2 nuke this goon
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omg chael crash posted:why can't i pause helldivers 2
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