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Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

fishmech posted:

I saw the point, the point was utterly moronic. All you do by insisting on buying on paper is hand publishers more money they don't deserve.

Well, you get a physical product. For my birthday I got my mom a book of poetry and dog-eared/circled a few poems that I thought applied especially well to her, along with a nice note in one of the blank pages at the front. It'd be a headache to do that on an ebook. I did feel a bit guilty about it - not about giving a little extra money to the publisher, but about the carbon emissions and labor associated with making a physical book and bringing it to my door.

And there's the battery and future-proofing issues. If you take an amazon kindle and a physical book and you throw them both in a box for a century, the kindle will probably not be usable. The book probably will be.

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Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

fishmech posted:

You are far more future proofed by (trivially) breaking the DRM on an ebook you purchased than you are by spending extra money to purchase a physical book. Leave it to libraries and other experts to preserve beyond your own lifetime, that's what you're paying taxes for anyway. In your own life you can back that file up in dozens of formats, spread it all over the internet for free to dirt cheap since we're talking only a few megabytes tops and you can also print it out and burn it at home on media like M-Disc that will last many many decades etc.

Maybe you just didn't know but the ebook formats used today? They're just containers for HTML, XML, and standard image formats. Absolutely trivial to reuse once the simple encryption is defeated.

Sounds about right. I was imagining a book bought on amazon and read on a kindle the way amazon intends, which is obviously a massively limited form of the technology

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

fishmech posted:

You didn't know they also read on your pc and your phone and basically 10 years of other devices? That's kinda shocking, it's not like they just started yesterday. Not talking anything unofficial, just stuff you see listed on Amazon itself.

Well sure, but I don't see contemporary PCs and phones as very future-proofed (and then you can get into stuff about portability and screen/page size). Am I wrong in that? I'm imagining the plight of kids who find their grandpa's old iPad generation one where he kept all his books, and are completely unable to power it because the corresponding cable hasn't been manufactured in decades. Of course this is all just sentimentality and in very particular cases - ebooks are obviously a massive accomplishment that should phase out at least 99% of physical book printing.

Maybe it's just on me, but I feel burned after I lost the entire A Song of Ice and Fire Series on my Ouya :-/

Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 1, 2019

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Raldikuk posted:

Ahh yes sticking it to those dastardly publishers by buying the higher margin and often more expensive product....genius

Aren't ebooks higher margin but lower cost? I usually see ebooks for about $5-$10 less than physical books (when they presumably cost about 100% less to produce, although the cost of printing and shipping a book can't be that high in the first place)

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

fishmech posted:

Yes you are wrong in that. Like jesus, "screen/page size" is by design not an issue for most any ebook format, because they're designed for constant reflow operations, since changing text sizes is a key aspect of the whole deal.

You're misunderstanding - I meant that most modern phones have a screen that (in my opinion) is too small to allow for comfortable book-reading. And then portability is a concern with a lot of PCs. The existence of kindles and nooks shows that it's extremely possible to make an e-reader with a fine screen size and excellent portability, and enough of a battery that that's hardly a concern.

I'm more interested in the future-proofing stuff - is it even possible to ensure that people 100 years from now will (probably) be able to pick up a dead electronic device, restore it to life, and read the books contained on it? Probably yes for some devices and no for others.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

SardonicTyrant posted:

We knew this for years and yet the uber booth at the compsci job fair had the longest line.

well, it's the job fair, not the investor fair

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

gently caress man this is some real fascist poo poo

I don't think you know what fascism is tbh

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
In the middle of the Extraordinary Missionary Month of October, the Pope’s Worldwide Prayer Network launched the “Click To Pray eRosary” at a press conference in the Vatican on October 15.

The Click To Pray eRosary is an interactive, smart and app-driven wearable device that serves as a tool for learning how to pray the rosary for peace in the world. It can be worn as a bracelet and is activated by making the sign of the cross. It is synchronized with a free app of the same name, which allows access to an audio guide, exclusive images and personalized content about the praying of the Rosary.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
I'm usually listening to music or a podcast on the bus and I'm an absent-minded moron so I find it useful to have a little alert come up when it's time to pull the stop-the-bus lever and get out of my seat, that way I can zone out without paying attention the rest of the time. In my experience a lot of bus riders use Google maps or Transit or apple maps or whatever in the same way I do, although of course it's more prominent among younger people

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

luxury handset posted:

i'd say most people who use a transit system or travel on foot use it frequently enough to not need cues as to when to embark/disembark or which path to take. the majority of daily trips tend to be repetitive, especially commutes as the largest individual component of trip category. again, this is just my anecdotal observations, each individual has their own perspective

You're right that frequent travelers usually know where they need to get on the bus/train and where they need to get off. But they still need some source of information about where they are - in the absence of a phone, the typical source of that information is looking outside, or listening to the announcements from the bus/train speakers.

But using a phone to provide that information instead means that you don't have to pay attention to the outside world like that, which means you get to spend more time staring at your phone, listening to your podcast, etc.

To be clear, I'm not saying that using your phone is the "correct" way to take public transit - I'm just explaining why so many people do so even when they know the exact route they need to take.

Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Feb 5, 2020

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

kitten smoothie posted:

An acquaintance of mine recently made an internet post asking for meal kit service recommendations. But she explicitly said she despises cooking and every service she’s tried, it involves the stove somehow. She wanted something she could microwave. Oh, and it had to be vegetarian.

So anyway if you want to start a business that ships out frozen TV dinners at $12-15 per, I’ve done the market research for you and you’ve got at least one customer. If you print this post out it doubles as a coupon good for a few million bucks of seed funding anywhere on Sand Hill Road.

There's a company I really like that sends out delicious microwavable meals at way less than $12/serving with a ton of vegetarian options. It's called Domino's Pizza

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
I find good restaurants by googling "good [descriptor] restaurants in [location]" and reading an article in a magazine/newspaper I trust, written by a professional food critic/journalist. I don't know why nobody else has brought that up as an option. I'm sure that industry's crooked somehow, but it's served me well enough.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
My understanding of Musk's sense of the world is that he's a genuine utopian socialist in the sense that he wants to get to the post-scarcity end of history like in Star Trek and all his other favorite sci-fi stories. He's a socialist in the way that people used the term before Marx and Engels started writing, and he sees his role in history as a pioneering inventor who gets us one step closer to the Holodeck.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Did they add anything significant of their own, though?

They added their ability to reach their audience, many of whom otherwise wouldn't've seen the story. It's no different than someone posting it in this thread - "hey, check this out, it's pretty cool!"

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Karia posted:

Ah, so the original author is paid in exposure. Well, why didn't you say so?

How else can you be paid for an article you posted online for free, but by having people link to it?

The author posted their article online for free with the intent that it be read - what is the Verge doing wrong by sharing it with people and linking to it?

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

I ran into the same thing today. The captcha told me to look for tractors, but it had a picture of a billboard with a tractor, and wouldn't let me through until I agreed it was a tractor.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Vegetable posted:

I shout “Lights out” and my google nest turns out the lights. It’s great.

More accurately you have to shout "OK Google, lights out" right? I thought Google was going to get rid of that at some point but I never heard about it happening

EDIT: Apparently it only works with the most expensive speaker model lol.

Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Oct 10, 2022

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Neo Rasa posted:

Does it learn your voice or can you link people to like a YouTube clip of someone shouting "OK Google, lights out"

It learns your voice, some stuff is restricted on voice some is not. With my setup (I bought a lot of this crap when I was a dumb teenager), you could turn off my lights with a YouTube clip like that but you couldn't access my calendar or photos.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Blue Footed Booby posted:

The typical AI failure mode where you show a plant-identifying bot a picture of a cat and it guesses hydrangea with a 2% confidence is unacceptable for this use case.

If the use case is "replace a doctor," agreed. I can imagine this being useful as a tool a doctor might consult to compensate for the human capacity to forget or fail to make connections. The doctor can take inspiration from the bot while filtering out the bot's nonsense.

"Oh, the bot suggested the problem is overexposure to ammonia, I didn't even think about that but now that I think about it, that makes a lot of sense, I should ask the patient if that could be a factor. The bot also suggests depression because patient is complaining, obviously that's bullshit haha."

Of course the problem is that there's much more money in "replace a doctor" than "help a doctor brainstorm."

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
Was there some situation like this with TVs (or color TVs) where buying them wasn't appealing because there wasn't a lot of content for them and making content for them wasn't appealing because there weren't a lot of people buying them?

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

abelwingnut posted:

https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1666991438863671298

lol, just lol. this thing was already violently repulsive, and yet it somehow gets worse with each new development.

It would be less off-putting to just make it a big astronaut helmet.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Boris Galerkin posted:

Do you use ChatGPT in your academic writing and want to cite it? You're in luck! The people behind the APA Style Guide says you can do it like so:

lol and lmao I can't believe that the article isn't just "gently caress no why the gently caress would you want to cite ChatGPT as a reference."

This is a pretty ridiculous misreading of the situation - even in the example it's clear this is for research about ChatGPT itself - what it says when prompted, why it might say that, how that might affect the people who use it. Not for getting ChatGPT to do your lit review for you

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Main Paineframe posted:

I don't really get that impression from that page.

Look at the quoted example. A "normal" citation would be like:

quote:

The notation that people can be characterized as left-brained or right-brained is considered to be an oversimplification and a popular myth (OpenAI, 2023)

That would be "If you want to verify what I'm saying is true, you can learn it where I learned it, ChatGPT." Stupid, ridiculous, and clearly what Boris Galerkin thinks is being promoted.

But the actual example provided is citing ChatGPT as a source for what ChatGPT itself says when prompted in a certain way, which is actually necessary if you're researching ChatGPT itself.:

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Boris Galerkin posted:

If ChatGPT generates text randomly then what use is it to me, the person doing a peer review of the paper that's citing information out of ChatGPT? Or me, the person reading this article (that cites information out of ChatGPT) trying to get information to use in my own research?

The best thing to do is obviously to include all "conversation" records in the appendix, but even if you don't do that, the fact that other people can't access the source doesn't remove your obligation to cite it.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Main Paineframe posted:

The example is written the way it is as a response to the limitations and issues in citing ChatGPT

Yes that's what I'm saying.

The article describes the limited context in which citing ChatGPT would make sense because of its many limitations, errors, and general weirdness, and it prescribes how you should cite it (which is the same format whether your use of it makes sense or not).

That's why the "lmao the APA style idiots should've just said never to cite ChatGPT" reaction is stupid.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm getting a weird theory that boomer cooking being awful and kids hating it comes from the rise of industrial cigarette manufacture and smoking, and generations of adults as a result having stunted taste buds.

Problem here is explaining the quality of Chinese and Israeli food.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
Yeah I'd imagine the situations where human drivers perform best relative to robot drivers aren't characterized by heavy environmental obstacles (where the range of sensors and precise controls used by the computer would be a huge advantage). I'd imagine that human drivers have our comparative advantage in making sense of other human pedestrians/cyclists/drivers and really novel situations.

So maybe in that sense San Francisco would be the hardest city for a robot driver to beat human baseline effectiveness.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
The problem with that theory is the depth of historical records about people who were almost certainly autistic long before we could engineer such a thing (if it's even possible today).

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Jose Valasquez posted:

Given 5 million books, with 99.9% of them being AI generated garbage, good luck finding a good book by a new author

I think I'll continue to find good books by new authors the same way I do now: book reviews by writers I like, and word of mouth.

There's already so many garbage books out there that it's ridiculous to find a good book by just going through a giant list of all of them or something like that. Maybe with AI it changes from "90% of books don't appeal to me" to "99.99%" but I don't think it affects the quality of the process by which I learn about new books, because already I only learn about books that are really good, or at least that the publisher is really excited about.

Especially since I don't need to know ALL good books by new authors, I just need to know at most 1 or 2 new ones each month.

The surge of AI-produced books will make life much more difficult for aspiring authors to get noticed, or for publishers to notice them, but I think consumers will be insulated if they want to be.

Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jan 22, 2024

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Blut posted:

As an Irish resident, its upset quite a lot of people here. Being told by our Green party to heat their homes less, drive less, eat less meat etc - ie engage in real day to day quality of life impacting efforts - while at the same time any gains from people doing all of that have been more than wiped out by the rapid expansion of energy use by the international data centers.

Data centers that employ very few local people, and contribute little to the economy, at that. They're nowhere near as valuable to the economy as tech offices full of actual employees.

Thanks for sharing the on-the-ground experience.

I imagine these data centers pay a lot of rent on land that otherwise wouldn't be nearly as valuable because of distance from major population centers, so the benefits to the economy are really localized to a few stakeholders - ideal scenario for lobbying.

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Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Boris Galerkin posted:

Apparently Zuck got new handlers and they advised him to grow a beard. He looks "normal" now. I'd post a picture but it's very nsfw to look at his face and I don't want to get banned.

It's fake, you fell for a fake story. Spend all weekend thinking about it

https://www.complex.com/life/a/backwoodsaltar/mark-zuckerberg-with-beard-fake-picture-twitter-reactions

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