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I've read wheel of time, stormlight archives, dark tower, Kingkiller, and now I'm on malazan. I like long epic fantasy series. after malazan, I might try mistborn. everyone seems to recommend it. are there other epic fantasy books that you guys like? sword of truth is a big stinker, right?
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May 9, 2016 06:07
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ROFLburger posted:I've read wheel of time, stormlight archives, dark tower, Kingkiller, and now I'm on malazan. I like long epic fantasy series. after malazan, I might try mistborn. everyone seems to recommend it. gene wolfe do book of the new sun and then book of the long sun back to back
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May 9, 2016 06:09
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ROFLburger posted:I've read wheel of time, stormlight archives, dark tower, Kingkiller, and now I'm on malazan. I like long epic fantasy series. after malazan, I might try mistborn. everyone seems to recommend it. Sword of Truth starts out p. good, but the series gets progressively worse as it goes on and Terry Goodkind's political agendas and fetishes take up more and more of the spotlight. I stopped Midway through book seven and couldn't bear to continue.
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May 9, 2016 06:16
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The Gentleman Bastards series is mostly good but the author wrote them following a bad breakup and it shows in some cringey ways. If you thought Denna and Kvothe's relationship was pathetic wait till you meet Locke and Sabetha. The_Angry_Turtle fucked around with this message at 06:27 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 06:20
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Tasoth posted:I think it has less to do with Tolkien and more to do with the fact that D&D dominated the concept of fantasy fiction for a hot minute. The Earthsea novels, Jack Vance's Dying Earth series, Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, John Carter of Mars, and some of the works of Lord Dunsaney were all contemporary or before LotR. But they didn't make it into the overall concept of fantasy because most weren't heavily pulled into the Dragonlance/Forgotten Realms settings in the 80s. Look at this lamer who doesn't know that D&D's magic system is pulled straight from Vance. I've got this weird novel published in 1822 called the three perils of man, it's by James Hogg and it's really good. There is a warlock and a bonny warrior dude and some other dudes and it's pretty funny. It reads like it belongs in the fantasy genre even though it didn't exist at the time. Oh and I just wanted to say Dune is a space fantasy.
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May 9, 2016 07:08
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I read the first mistborn book and the magic is all throwing pennies at people and then PUSHING and PULLING on them and there are 8 different magic types all with Names©™® and "do I have enough potions to quoff?? My goodness lord ramsekins I'm a mimsy wee lass tee hee" but the protagonist see she is SPECIAL and it all got kind of tedious
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May 9, 2016 08:13
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In the Stormlight Archives, the reason why the good guys are literally romantic hero characters is because they're bound to the remnants of God's (as in the one who created all of Sanderson's linked universe) dead Honor. Which was killed by the incarnation of divine hatred without purpose that goes by the name Odium after they were shattered into individual entities along with 14 of God's other characteristics. That being said and having binged Sanderson's works recently, he does have commonly repeating patterns in his books. There are three character archetypes: a person who wars with their faith/who they are and comes to terms with it, someone who has inherited awesome power and eventually accepts it, and someone who is more capable of than they realize and becomes a leader. His settings tend to be interesting and he puts a lot of effort into his magic systems. You can start throwing dodgeballs now.
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May 9, 2016 15:14
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Sanderson writes entertaining and creative books and does it at a a quicker pace than any of his peers. Any criticism of his flat characters or occasionally goofy magic is like making fun of celebrities wearing funny outfits at the Academy Awards.
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May 9, 2016 16:15
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The_Angry_Turtle posted:Sanderson writes entertaining and creative books and does it at a a quicker pace than any of his peers. Any criticism of his flat characters or occasionally goofy magic is like making fun of celebrities wearing funny outfits at the Academy Awards. Oh, I agree. I really enjoy Sanderson's work and think his settings are pretty fantastic compared to generic european fantasy world #n.
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May 9, 2016 16:39
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ROFLburger posted:
Michael Moorcock. The Corum and Elric ones are pretty good.
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May 9, 2016 16:47
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gently caress no without LOTR to give all those psychos some kind of framework we'd get all kinds of drivel that would make you want to spoon your eyes out (well moreso than we have now anyway) ROFLburger posted:I've read wheel of time, stormlight archives, dark tower, Kingkiller, and now I'm on malazan. I like long epic fantasy series. after malazan, I might try mistborn. everyone seems to recommend it. Mistborn wasn't bad. I thought the first book was really good then it was just alright by the end but it's not super long so it's fine. I'm reading through Sword of Truth right now and idk I like it. Just finished the 3rd one. It's kinda generic fantasy in terms of all the tropes you expect are pretty much there but it's still a fun easy read. It's kinda got a lot of hosed up torture/rape stuff though but it doesn't usually get too graphic or it'll do it off page. Like 95% of the time instead of graphically describing what is happening it'll just be 'X looked on in horror' before the scene ends or whatever. Usually. ROFLburger posted:lol. Stormlight books are the only Sanderson books I've read so far. I agree with you 100% except that those things don't really bother me all that much fwiw the Sword of Truth books kinda suffer the same character issues but I'm on the same boat as you; don't care that much. quote:Sanderson writes entertaining and creative books and yeah I agree. Mistborn's magic system was cool. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:05 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 17:02
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Malazan is to phonebook fantasy what molecular gastronomy is to food. All those foams, gels, and emulsions may be inedible non-food to most but for people with really jaded pallates its pretty much the only thing that excites them anymore.
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May 9, 2016 18:56
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sanderson is a mothafuckin hack motherfucker lol
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May 9, 2016 18:59
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if you get down with his autistic rear end magic systems you are magically autistic i promise
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May 9, 2016 19:00
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I gave up on Game of Thrones somewhere in book 4 or 5 when it became obvious that I was just a victim of GRRM's cum fetish. Also, they started changing everyone's names around and the book happened at the same time as the last one and I was just over it.
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May 9, 2016 19:47
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Tasoth posted:You can start throwing
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May 9, 2016 20:33
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Conan series is best, since none of the other fantasy series have pantherish leaps.
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May 9, 2016 20:54
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i only read technical metaphysics and if my eyes hurt from reading too much ill take a break and relax to a cumpilation or two
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May 9, 2016 21:12
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Like Tarantino being the result of someone whose only exposure to media is movies going on to make movies of his own, Sanderson is what happens when someone whose only cultural knowledge comes from video games attempts for some reason to write a book, but much less successfully than said tarantino
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May 9, 2016 21:46
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The_Angry_Turtle posted:Malazan is to phonebook fantasy what molecular gastronomy is to food. All those foams, gels, and emulsions may be inedible non-food to most but for people with really jaded pallates its pretty much the only thing that excites them anymore. fair
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May 9, 2016 21:47
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natetimm posted:I gave up on Game of Thrones somewhere in book 4 or 5 when it became obvious that I was just a victim of GRRM's cum fetish Go on... For real ive never read a grrm what does this mean
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May 9, 2016 23:39
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My favorite fantasy author right now is Henry Darger
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May 9, 2016 23:40
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I like CJ Cherryh and Lois McMaster Bujold a lot.
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May 10, 2016 01:01
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Mange Mite posted:Go on... There are lots of references to and descriptions of cum in his books. It's either running down some woman's leg or being swallowed or evoked as a description of something else. Nobody in history has woven the fabric of cum into their literature as completely and overwhelmingly as that disgusting little gnome GRRM has. Internet porn has less cum in it than a Game of Thrones novel. The average set of human balls has less cum in them. Game of Thrones is just murder and torture porn with dragons in it that inevitably makes its way around to some form of bukkake every couple of chapters.
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May 10, 2016 01:14
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Would Food Taste Better Without Ingredients?
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May 10, 2016 01:20
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does the anne rice vampire chronicles series count as fantasy? these vampires aren't scary so it's not horror and they're pretty easy to fantasize about (i wanna be metaphorically raped by them because vampires are an allegory[?] for rape with teeth penetrating the vagina's neck) so fantasy sounds about right no Tolkien poo poo, no elves or other mythologistics, and I dunno if it's erotica because the fang rape is the extent of the sex, vampires def wanna kiss on and gently caress on each other boy or girl but their danglers and orifices basically become inert and worthless when The Dark Trick is performed and they are Born Into Darkness as Children Of Darkness. it's a lot like Harry potter in that respect anyway Anne rice is dope and those books are cool and how i get my rocks off and they've got nothin to do with tolkien so I think maybe op is on to something here...
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May 10, 2016 01:43
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Gatekeeper posted:does the anne rice vampire chronicles series count as fantasy? these vampires aren't scary so it's not horror and they're pretty easy to fantasize about (i wanna be metaphorically raped by them because vampires are an allegory[?] for rape with teeth penetrating the vagina's neck) so fantasy sounds about right what the
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May 10, 2016 01:44
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Like Tarantino being the result of someone whose only exposure to media is movies going on to make movies of his own, Sanderson is what happens when someone whose only cultural knowledge comes from video games attempts for some reason to write a book, but much less successfully than said tarantino I don't know why this is such a common opinion. What exactly is video game-ish about his stories? If anything, they're influenced by Mormonism.
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May 10, 2016 01:50
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His characters are defined by their skilltrees
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May 10, 2016 01:53
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Gatekeeper posted:does the anne rice vampire chronicles series count as fantasy? these vampires aren't scary so it's not horror and they're pretty easy to fantasize about (i wanna be metaphorically raped by them because vampires are an allegory[?] for rape with teeth penetrating the vagina's neck) so fantasy sounds about right Vampire sex is neat and all but have you checked out Anne McCaffrey's books about people riding psychic dragons?. Sometimes the dragons have sex and when this happens their (mostly male) riders develop an uncontrollable urge to rape each other. When its dragon breeding season everyone gets in on the action and they have big gay psychic dragon rape orgies for weeks on end.
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May 10, 2016 01:59
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The_Angry_Turtle posted:Vampire sex is neat and all but have you checked out Anne McCaffrey's books about people riding psychic dragons?. Sometimes the dragons have sex and when this happens their (mostly male) riders develop an uncontrollable urge to rape each other. When its dragon breeding season everyone gets in on the action and they have big gay psychic dragon rape orgies for weeks on end. no wonder my dad loves anne mccaffrey's books. i never read them cause i thought they must be boring but now i'm tempted to give them a shot
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May 10, 2016 02:02
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Groovelord Neato posted:this is a guy who can't finish his fantasy series cuz he's too busy Also he gets paid while doing this, a master troll.
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May 10, 2016 02:02
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I'm on the third book of the Shadow Shadowmarch series by Tad Williams and I'm really enjoying it and I also enjoyed his Otherland series although Iraq sort of genre defying and maybe more SciFi than fantasy in the long run. Shadowmarch is fantasy through and through and the world he built is really cool in my opinion.
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May 10, 2016 02:04
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Celluloid Sam posted:I'm on the third book of the Shadow Shadowmarch series by Tad Williams and I'm really enjoying it and I also enjoyed his Otherland series although Iraq sort of genre defying and maybe more SciFi than fantasy in the long run. Shadowmarch is fantasy through and through and the world he built is really cool in my opinion. Am I the only one who enjoyed Otherland? I ate that poo poo up as a preteen.
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May 10, 2016 03:38
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rock rock posted:Oh and I just wanted to say Dune is a space fantasy. Dune is actually space historical fiction about the Sinai and Palestine Campaign.
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May 17, 2016 19:58
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natetimm posted:There are lots of references to and descriptions of cum in his books. It's either running down some woman's leg or being swallowed or evoked as a description of something else. Nobody in history has woven the fabric of cum into their literature as completely and overwhelmingly as that disgusting little gnome GRRM has. Internet porn has less cum in it than a Game of Thrones novel. The average set of human balls has less cum in them. Game of Thrones is just murder and torture porn with dragons in it that inevitably makes its way around to some form of bukkake every couple of chapters. I'm not a huge fan of the last 2 but... why are you lying about them to make them seem worse than they are? Gatekeeper posted:anyway Anne rice is dope and those books are cool and how i get my rocks off and they've got nothin to do with tolkien so I think maybe op is on to something here... Loved these when I was in HS
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May 17, 2016 20:04
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The_Angry_Turtle posted:I don't know why this is such a common opinion. What exactly is video game-ish about his stories? If anything, they're influenced by Mormonism. Sanderson is a huge magic the gathering fan, and thus his books frequently involve characters finding ways to combine different magical abilities into game breaking combos. The Mormon influence I kind of like, because he's totally fine with playing around with different religious beliefs and their implications. Like the latest Mistborn books take place in a world where young earth creationism is not only true, but obviously true.
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May 17, 2016 20:27
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Would fantasy be popular at all if not for that one artist who drew really great lady butts and dragons and muscle men? What was his name his art is the best.
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May 17, 2016 20:33
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I'd read a fantasy book with a setting similar to American colonialism, not of this castle and knight garbage.
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May 17, 2016 20:39
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Would fantasy be popular at all if not for that one artist who drew really great lady butts and dragons and muscle men? I believe his name was "every twelve year old ever"
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May 17, 2016 20:40
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