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Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to. Then resurrect it a few more times so you can squeeze all the juice out of that lemon possible.Violator posted:I’m not too hot on multi-hour reviews, but I’m liking fan documentaries like: Haven't checked these out yet, but the problem with every fan documentary I've ever seen is that they just spend the whole time jerking the subject off. Like, a lot of these films deserve really interesting and in-depth documentaries made on their influences and their effects on the industry, or an examination of their thematic elements and breakdown of what makes their character moments so engaging and effective. But in reality they just end up being a bunch of third-tier talking heads going "Isn't this movie amazing? Gosh did I love it as a kid." over and over again. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 23, 2019 |
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Or, in a slightly more pointed reading, "fangirls are not a part of this fandom."
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Dave Syndrome posted:In the hands of another writer, the plot might have been salvageable. "If this weren't so misogynistic it wouldn't be so misogynistic!" feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Apr 26, 2019 11:29
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Robot Style posted:Boba Fett tailgated a guy driving a broken car and then told the police what town he was going to. Would 100% watch a Star Wars remake that takes place in depressed, small town Midwestern America. ...or Afghanistan. e: John Hawkes for Old Ben, the burnout alcoholic living in a shack on the edge of town who vowed to watch out for his shithead war buddy's kid. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Apr 29, 2019 20:29
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By interesting do you mean hilariously similar in quality to the old EU?
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May 2, 2019 04:08
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Yoda tried to tell us there is another, after all
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May 7, 2019 10:36
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Kylo's mask is an hilarious bit of bad design. It really doesn't seem that JJ intended it as "Vader but stupid" even after Rian tried to throw him a freebie. I can't even picture his lightsaber.
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May 7, 2019 11:59
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Blast Fantasto posted:Is constable zuvio gonna be in this movie You just know that Abrams is going to put him in as a dumb wink to the memes.
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May 16, 2019 19:00
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Teek posted:The Luke shot could very well just be a staged shot. It doesn't have to tie into any particular scene in the movie. Luke looks like his self when he died. So his appearance here would basically just be his Force Ghost self just not with the post-CGI wizardry. I mean, with R2 and the burning background, plus the Knights of Ren being in the movie, makes it pretty likely that it's just a flashback to when Kylo burned his poo poo down.
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May 22, 2019 16:04
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Teek posted:That's Luke's TFA/TLJ look, he looked younger/different in the destruction flashback. Oh. Yuck.
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May 22, 2019 17:38
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Ingmar terdman posted:Annoying how much time I guess all the sequels spend on flashbacks It's almost as if they should have started them at the actual inciting incident! I can't imagine these films wouldn't feel more cohesive if the exact same set of events had occurred, but the first film was about Luke and Ben's falling out, the second one was about Luke having hidden away and Rey's quest to find him, and the third one was about Luke and/or his new apprentice facing down his greatest failure.
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May 22, 2019 20:29
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Rose is a good character that fits extremely well within the narrative and thematics that Rian Johnson crafted. Thank you and I will show myself out.
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May 23, 2019 16:48
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Just quoting this so you can't edit it out. Actually, many people had thought of planes being used as giant missiles. In fact, there was an X-Files episode about someone using that exact tactic against the WTC. I feel safe saying that many, many films have had airliners crash into things. Just quoting this so you can't edit it out. Actually, they were talking about kamikaze pilots during WWII.
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May 25, 2019 01:50
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Maybe take a walk around the block, dude.
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Bogus Adventure posted:I'm just looking forward to the live-action remake of the Star Wars trilogies done completely in CGI. I kinda wonder what musical number they'll include. I mean, Lucasfilm is already essentially doing this, just in small chunks and with better taste: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1cfemeX_U
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Wonder what Guinness's reaction would be to a deepfake video replacing his face with Ewan McGregor's, or that CGI Vader-Obi-Wan duel monstrosity. I'd imagine he'd either have some pithy acerbic witticism, or just cry like McKellen on the set of The Hobbit. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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Sep 9, 2019 18:06
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Someone here pointed me to a good viewing guide that let me skip all the bad Clone Wars stuff and it worked out very well.
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Sep 9, 2019 19:36
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Rebels is terrible and made the whole Rebel Alliance feel like a fuckin' joke.
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Sep 10, 2019 11:19
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Necrotizer F posted:The first season was a bit "meh." The special between seasons One and Two that brought in Vader was the thing that made me go, "Okay, yeah, you know what? Disney's got this." The characters are universally dire—outside of Ahsoka, who as stated had to be imported from a better show to give Rebels some life. Necrotizer F posted:After the three prequel movies turned Darth Vader into a whiny, emo preppy stalker, two episodes of an animated show turned him back into a legitimate, badass terrifying villain. This was a bad move. A creepy, incel, alt-right, emotionally-stunted, post-Columbine teenager is a lot scarier in the modern era than Metal Frankenstein. The prequels may have whiffed the execution of the character, but they nailed the idea. As much as I think the sequels also have terrible characters, Kylo is a great refinement of the same concept. Necrotizer F posted:I'll always be grateful to Rebels for doing that even beyond getting to experience Thrawn onscreen. Thrawn sucks and feels like Rebels doing Kevin J. Anderson fanfiction. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Sep 10, 2019 |
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Sep 10, 2019 18:34
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That's the moment I realized I hated the show.
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Bogus Adventure posted:The only explanation is attempting to hypermonetize the franchise by requiring fans to gobble up every lovely morsel of media in order to have even the shakiest of understandings of why the galaxy is a shitshow after the triumphant ending of ROTJ. Nah. It's more that they started the ST with such an empty, hollow movie that threw out its script at the last minute and was half-improvised that other writers had to come in later and try to clean up the mess.
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Sep 11, 2019 13:35
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There's a despecialized THX fan cut out there, too, that's pretty solid. But I've recommended THX to a bunch of people over the years and there's no way they're going to be aware of the special edition situation nor have the capabilities to track down an obscure fan cut. And yeah, the THX SE is less egregiously awful for most of the film, but the early-00s CGI monkeys are way more embarrassing than the dwarf actors in costumes ever were.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:george lucas, not bitter: "If I’d held onto the company I could have done it, and then it would have been done. Of course, a lot of the fans would have hated it, just like they did Phantom Menace and everything, but at least the whole story from beginning to end would be told." I mean, come on: Bob Iger's new book posted:Early on, Kathy [Kennedy] brought J.J. [Abrams] and Michael Arndt up to Northern California to meet with George at his ranch and talk about their ideas for the film. George immediately got upset as they began to describe the plot and it dawned on him that we weren’t using one of the stories he submitted during the negotiations. That's literally Iger saying that they made empty movies intentionally because it's what the fans wanted.
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Lucas was fine with challenging his audience and subverting their expectations. Disney is not. I want films that set out to be interesting and challenging over ones that set out to be fluff, regardless of ultimate quality. I don't care how good the fluff is or how bad the challenging films are. The fact that George Lucas always gave the bird to fans (outside of some Boba Fett fanservice, I guess) is admirable. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sep 24, 2019 20:44
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nice fan fiction
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Iger really hosed it from the outset by not allowing JJ the time to craft a film from the ground up, forcing him to make a rushed and incomplete film with no intended answers to its mysteries, no larger vision, that had to use nostalgia as a constant crutch, and that had to be rewritten in the editing room. All for the sake of Bob's quarterly profits. Kennedy's choice to not have an overall vision for the trilogy was dumb, but I can see how it would be well-meaning. If they intended from the start to have different interesting filmmakers tackle an entry of the trilogy, I can see there being a noble intention of being filmmaker-driven movies. But in a series that thus far had been driven by a singular driving creative force it was very clearly the wrong move. Hiring Trevorrow was her biggest fuckup with the whole trilogy, having to actively ignore how poor his previous output was—assuming she was behind the decision and it wasn't dictated by Iger with Jurassic World dollars in his eyes. JJ just did JJ. The first film he made a propulsive but empty nostalgia film, which is exactly what his filmmaking history would imply he'd do. The third film he's apparently made a convoluted mess of an ending, which is exactly what his filmmaking history would imply he'd do. He was dumb to come back for the reported mess of the third entry, especially if he went in planning to poo poo all over TLJ, but I understand why he did it after Kennedy and crew were desperate for someone to pick up after Trevorrow didn't pan out. And once again, his hands were tied by timeline, having to pick up the scraps of somebody else's script (and, likely, action sequences from the in-progress previs) for a second time. I doubt he would've had the ability to craft his own full vision for the entry even if he'd had one. I would've killed for Rian to finish out the trilogy but I totally understand that the complexities of franchise filmmaking probably wouldn't have allowed for it from a timeline perspective. But seeing a film where the Resistance goes after the military industrial complex and the capitalist infrastructure to take down the First Order in a deeper and more meaningful way, ultimately creating a more peaceful galaxy for generations to come would've been a whole loving lot more interesting than Palpatine coming back with a... fleet of star destroyers, I guess?
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Favreau has gone on record saying he wants to do it and has ideas.
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Everything interesting in this trilogy happens off-screen. "The dead speak!" rules, but much like everything else in the JJ films, it's just a riff on a better idea of George Lucas', Revenge of the Sith's "War!"
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Horizon Burning posted:clip of rey vs palpatine and killing him lmao That won't load for me, but somehow it's up on YouTube for now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qAdI3nMQlk If only Luke had used TWO lightsabers he could've defeated the Emperor, that failure!
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Decius posted:You realise we made that joke back in RotS? If only someone had told Luke of that lighting block Mace Windu was so good at... Yes, and they were both poor choices.
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dex_sda posted:He gets hosed the same way a third time lmfao It's a metaphor for the experience of viewers.
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Vintersorg posted:The reviews just reek of click-bait hate. It cannot be that bad. Worse than AoTC or even RoTS? Keep in mind that reviewers on the whole are a different breed than the ones that reviewed the prequels. At that point the bulk of reviewers were still old-school newspaper reviewers who had no attachment to the films or opinions about/experience with fandom. So an old dude watching AoTC or RoTS in the early 2000s is going to shrug off a mediocre film with interesting ideas and groundbreaking effects as "Yeah, that was pretty fun," but a middle-aged dude who collects Funko Pops and has written for movie blogs since he was 16 is going to have a far more hyperbolic take. The messageboard dwellers of yesteryear are the tastemakers of today. e: Also, being bad and an empty corporate designed-by-committee product is a whole lot less palatable than being bad and having a lot of creative ideas. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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OctoberCountry posted:Apparently the Death Star Destroyers are powered by the dark side or something so when Sheev gets kamehameha'd the entire fleet blows up like the end of Return of the King Avengers and/or Age of Ultron seems like a more apt comparison.
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Tato posted:With the emperor being arbitrarily resurrected (and what's to keep him from being brought back again after this movie?), I'm glad the films have come full circle to being as ridiculous as the old EU. Only disappointed we didn't get Luuke Skywalker and Luuuke Skywalker That force ghost of Luke did look suspiciously slightly bigger...
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Onmi posted:Look, in the end, there are going to be people who care about the minutia of a story and how things connect to one another on a technical level and people who care more about how it connects on a thematic level. If you personally don't care about one or the other, your feelings towards a piece of work are going to change either way. That's what I'm getting from all these arguments. Shh, if you're too reasonable people may never angrily talk about Star Wars online again
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Dec 20, 2019 11:21
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Just  if you don't think the Palpatine backstory and Snoke clones and star destroyer fleet won't be filled in by the Obi-Wan show and/or Mandalorian season 2 or whatever. Ta-da! Gaps in proper storytelling suddenly become brand opportunities.
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Darko posted:Kylo doesn't have to be a monster for Rey to slay in the 3rd film. You're still constraining it to a 1st trilogy structure. Could've been a neat followup on TLJ to see her defeat Kylo by forcing him to own up to his complete lack of ideology beyond the pursuit of power, revenge, and repression of his insecurities while the Resistance defeats the First Order by seizing the means of production of the military industrial complex. Kylo's worldview being systematically dismantled and shown as empty and pathetic would've been a lot cooler than him getting "redeemed" by his ghost dad and getting tossed into a pit or whatever. But maybe that's just me.
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"JJ had a plan and Rian didn't follow it, so JJ had no choice but to continue on with that plan regardless of what happened in the previous film and shove as much of the plan as possible into this film even if it didn't fit and required him to retcon half the previous film." - this thread Even if JJ had a plan (he didn't) there was absolutely no reason beyond obstinance and spite to not course-correct and come up with a new plan. It's a little kid getting mad that he had to share his Legos and smashing what the other kid gave back to him.
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Looks like the Obi-Wan show will have a young Luke in it. At this point this whole series has totally lost its sanctity for me and my response is "gently caress it, why not?" Since we're not going to get an original story, interesting thematics, or allegorical politics, at least I can see Stranger Things Luke Skywalker pilot T-16s with his knucklehead friends.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:the alternative is developing new characters and we don't wanna do that, it's scary Everyone got cold feet after Dash Rendar.
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