Admiral Ray posted:

One of the better places to get money to look into things like this is the military. If you can convince generals, admirals (or their closest hangers on) that climate change will unpredictably and irreparably harm America's defense posture and your idea is part of an improved action plan to mitigate these the threats after a period of X years, enabling continued US presence in regions A, B, C while keeping expenditures below Y projections. The issue is, as ever, getting contact with them.

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Climate change poses “immediate risks” to national security and will have broad and costly impacts on the way the US military carries out its missions, the Pentagon said in a new report on the impact of climate change released on 13 October.

The Defense Department said in the report, described as a “Climate Change Adaptation Roadmap," that it has begun to boost its "resilience" and ensure mission readiness is not compromised in the face of rising sea levels, increasing regularity of natural disasters, and food and water shortages in the developing world.

In a statement, US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel called global warming a “threat multiplier,” saying rising seas and increasing numbers of severe weather events could exacerbate the dangers posed by threats ranging from infectious disease to terrorism...

The Center for Climate and Security, a policy institute with an advisory board of retired senior military officers and national security experts, said in a statement it concurred with the roadmap's assessment and urged policymakers to follow the military's lead.

In November 2013, Defense Secretary Hagel also released a new Defense Department strategy for the Arctic, identifying climate change and rising seas as key issues in changes there.

In May, the CNA Military Advisory Board issued a report highlighting the accelerating risks of climate change for national security. This was an update of the Board's 2007 report, the first major study to draw the link between climate change and national security. The report’s authors said the biggest change in the seven years between the two studies was the increase in scientific certainty about global warming, and of the link between global warming and security disruptions.

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While the Trump administration has largely rejected climate change as an issue, the Department of Defense and Congress have identified it as a major potential threat to national security.

Tab8715 posted:

Are all of Miami's flood protection projects just useless? I mean, they are are pouring nearly billions into flood protections into the city or at least some it with some extremely smart scientists.

Or is all of this just wishful thinking and praying for a unicorn?

Shima Honnou posted:

Can corn grow in chilly weather 'cause looking it up Illinois is one of the big producers and they're oscillating between like 50F and 70F depending on what day it is.

Stoner Sloth posted:

Make sure you drink plenty of water - more than you think you need and stay indoors/in air conditioned places if possible during the hottest parts of the day, also don't do anything too physical outdoors if you have to be there. Just some friendly advice - we've had healthy twenty six year olds drop dead of heat stroke and/or dehydration in those sort of conditions here.

Defenistrator posted:

Anyone in Ontario notice the disturbing lack of insects this summer? I haven't seen a single fly or bee yet.

Sundae posted:

You're going to instantiate a new wave of climate-hacking using clusters of renewable, root-based bioprocesses. No speed trees here; we're going back to core principles with our new system. Just click the button on this app to find available hackyards or independent climate-concierges to bring about this new reality!

1glitch0 posted:

We were doubled up on computers and if we messed up and lost like a quarter way through class we just gave up and started talking because we knew it was hopeless to try again. Why "computer class" was just having everyone play Oregon Trail on Macs is... a whole other discussion I suppose. I wonder how prevalent that was in schools in the 80s and if it was, why.

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A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

Nice piece of fish posted:

In most famines, people stay home and move as little as possible. A mass starvation will not look like locusts decending, it will look like the black death. Ghost towns, corpse filled houses. Unless order fails completely.

Shima Honnou posted:

I recall once seeing some kind of documentary on how cattle raising essentially destroys the Great Plains' biodiversity since they aren't adapted to it like bison were and gently caress the place up by trampling everything, especially near water. Wish I could remember what it was, think it was some kind of Dateline-type show had an episode on that.

VideoGameVet posted:

Conspiratiorist posted:

Not a human one, no.

StabbinHobo posted:

speaking of the scale

https://berniesanders.com/issues/green-new-deal/


only one candidates version of the green new deal is of the appropriate scale. you may have your grievances with it, but its the only one that gets the scale right.

VideoGameVet posted:

A massive cut in consumption makes stuff like Wind & Solar viable. Right now what happens is that we grow solar and wind sources AND grow carbon-based generation at the same time.

So Mass Transit and e-Bikes and not so much e-Cars.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Don't live there

VideoGameVet posted:

I don't know if they have a bus service for the schools, but when my children were in school they didn't and so you have parents driving the children to school ... a massive line up of SUV's etc.

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When I was a child (NY) this didn't seem to be an issue (the cold). And it still isn't in places like Finland etc. And I suppose this was true back in the day in ND and other freeze zones.

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I don't know if we can solve the problem in the places you live in, but my children grew up in LA and San Diego and lack of bus service was a major waste of energy.

Ras Het posted:

If "kids will die if they have to wait for the bus" is an issue, then school should very obviously be closed. I'm from inland Finland where -30c has historically been common, and I don't remember that being an issue, but ymmv. Anything above that isn't really an issue for children old enough to dress themselves

VictualSquid posted:

The fact that there are children who can afford cars to drive to school, but not winter clothes is the real problem.

tuyop posted:

You’re right, rather than expanding social services as well as public transit, we just have to drive those kids to school forever and ever!

VictualSquid posted:

So wait, you are saying the kids are currently not making it to school currently, but when you are arguing against public transportation we have to assume they all are happy with their cars?

Thug Lessons posted:

Yeah I was going to say something like this. It's really unlikely anything coming out of a glacier is a prehistoric plague. It would be genuinely interesting, and not particularly frightening, if any of these extinct virus groups could survive in a modern environment at all.

Syenite posted:

World is doomed.

Conspiratiorist posted:

Preppers also make a big deal out of fleeing cities towards the obviously safer (and minority-free) countryside, when historically during societal breakdowns it is urban centers that end up the focus of efforts to maintain stability, while the periphery is left to decay and raided for resources.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Totally agreed with your first para.

To your second point, it's actually hard to know how many Irish Americans are 1/4 or greater Irish ancestry. Surprisingly the only results I can find from a cursory google were from a frivolous 538 sponsored SurveyMonkey poll in 2015. They had about 1000 respondents and of that about 12% self reported as a quarter or more Irish, which would correspond to the 30-40m potential Irish passports.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-irish-are-people-who-identify-as-irish-american/

Obviously that kind of self-reporting is kinda crap data to infer from, but it's interesting to note that there was a large cohort of respondents who claimed to have "some Irish ancestry" but did not identify as "Irish-American", which suggests that the numbers might not actually be crazily inflated as you might suspect.

And making a wild assumption that of those 30-40m maybe 75% were bullshitting or unable to verify their ancestry, you could still have a potential 10-12m new passports, which for the record would be twice the current population of the island of Ireland.

I realise this is the climate change thread so I won't take this little weekend pondering any further off-topic. It's just interesting to me how insular the US is (I get it, propaganda plus huge, diverse country), and how that viewpoint could be affected by the coming decades of instability

Digamma-F-Wau posted:

Hasn't Bison farming been found to have the potential to have a less drastic effect on the environment than Cow farming in America, due to Bison being evolved to actually live here among other things? Finding a way to replace beef with bison in people's diets could be a way to go about things.

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Decades of research led by scientists at Kansas State University offered evidence reintroducing bison to roam the tallgrass prairie gradually doubled plant diversity and improved resilience to extreme drought.

Gains documented in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Science were among the largest recorded globally in terms of species richness on grazing grasslands. The research involved more than 30 years of data collected at the Konza Prairie Biological Station near Manhattan.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germany-Is-Dismantling-A-Wind-Farm-To-Make-Way-For-A-Coal-Mine.amp.html

greatBigJerk posted:

I wonder if there is an effective way to tell people that they're going to have to give up a lot of their current lifestyle in order to survive.

Mega Comrade posted:

Its important to know! I can't get a bunker built in only 2 years.

His Divine Shadow posted:

Wasn't saying we where safe. Everything will get worse. But that's why I'm glad we at least got this aquifer.