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Caidin posted:One Piece is great but now that it's in it's long final stretch it's time for the series to completely fall apart like all the other long term Shonen I take in. At least this time sudden moon people stronger than anyone ever and having to team up with former enemies to fight them is totally on brand. Plus we know that Blackbeard is totally bringing back legendary and ex-friend dead people. I'm going to be King of the Pirates, believe it.
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mabels big day posted:See you all in the Two Piece thread Thread: Nami
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I hate myself, because I got to beheaded Buggy and literally took 5 minutes trying to figure out how he was still alive while looking at the picture trying to figure out what I was missing. Then I remembered his devil fruit Endorph posted:the world must know of my brook x big mom fanfiction It's like that one R Kelly song Age Ain't Nothing But a Number When You're in International Water
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Julias posted:Link for the official chapter Oda really should have just Price Is Right'd that poo poo. So close, but he foolishly listened to some rando from the audience.
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Aug 28, 2022 16:54
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Croc only lost to Luffy because he has about the only Logia with a hard counter. On top of that there is a narrative under current of him being out of practice and lazily having fallen into the rookie complacency of Logias. Getting beat up by Luffy shook the accumulated rust off of him. Even then, Crocodile didn't really outclass Luffy too much at Marineford. Then in the ensuing time skip he probably went on a Rocky III training montage to get back in top condition.
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Aug 29, 2022 01:34
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Lord_Magmar posted:Croc also nearly killed Luffy twice. Yeah, if Robin hadn't helped him out he would have been super dead. I think it's just Crocodile, Magellan, Akainu, and Kaido who "killed" Luffy. Everyone else only beat the gently caress out of the guy.
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Aug 29, 2022 02:06
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, when Doflamingo cuts off his head he's not even remotely bothered, and Doffy seems to have basically expected that. He's also EXTREMELY keen to want to form an alliance with Croc who shows no interest in it at all. I wonder if they ever had any encounters as Shichibukai given it was apparently near impossible to ever get more than a couple of them to agree to come when called, and our first look at Doflamingo is I believe only after Croc has been sent to Impel Down and stripped of his rank. To be fair Doflamingo, Mihawk, and Boa we're at best quarter-assing their way through the whole war. So it's not like any fights they were in would actually count for power level calibration theorizing. Except any fights Boa got in to block for Luffy, where she would be fighting at 110%, though those are also tainted by the Cat 5 winds of love throwing off normal power levels. It is interesting to think about whether Croc ripped off Mingo's villainous machinations, Mingo ripped off Croc, or they just both came up with very similar flights of world domination fancy.
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Aug 29, 2022 08:32
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Tolth posted:I basically assume that the power discrepancy with Crocodile is due to us, as in the reader, not being able to see haki at the time, combined with the fact that the Nika Nika fruit has probably always given Luffy a mild degree of ability to bend reality. Crocodile's haki was much weaker as a result of his spirit and ambition being broken, Luffy was using mild armament and conquerors coating without realising it due to being in a berserk rage, and the remainder of the gap is filled by the Nika fruit having slight passive activation due to Luffy fighting to free a bunch of trapped people from oppression. Luffy punched Crocodile super hard the same way that he punched Enel super hard, he fell assbackwards into a hard counter of their logia ability. This hard counter made it so that their THAC0 no longer had logia modifier, allowing him to hit them as hard as he hit non-logias. No need to retrofit haki into situations where non-haki solutions are explicitly stated.
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Rody One Half posted:see I don't think there's as much overlap as there might seem, beyond the basic crime syndicate/kingdom takeover framework, mainly because I don't think Mingo was ever really aiming for world domination He's definitely throwing massive "gently caress you, dad" vibes, but at the end of the day his plan was an 80s business/action movie plan to become the Pirate King. Which is basically world domination in whatever flavor of your personal pirate belief in what being the Pirate King means. Like, Luffy wants to be the freest man in the world, but that necessitates being strong enough to impose his will over everyone who wants him to eat his vegetables and not horse around at the pool. Pirate King is basically the same as winning The Prize in Highlander. We all hope that MacLeod/Luffy wins because they'd be cool dudes with the power, unlike Kurgen/Blackbeard. Which is honestly kind of the weird plot hole in One Piece. Why, exactly, does everyone dream of being the super awesome King of the Pirates? Roger is the only Pirate King, and he sure as poo poo wasn't what anybody so far has dreamed of using their powers of the One Piece to achieve. Dude
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I always just figured that the Organization was the Navy while the guys in uniform doing the poo poo were Marines. Which is how we have all the specialists, Cipher Pols, and weirdos that sometimes are under the Navy and sometimes outside it.Caidin posted:He'll always be Zolo to me. You are a monster.
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Scholtz posted:idk why everyone is focusing on Lucci being on the boats headed to Wano I always wonder if Oda's been big into Stüssy brand gear since he was drawing the S on his desk in the 90's.
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Silver2195 posted:I always assumed Kuro was killed by his crew while he was unconscious. He’d just tried to kill them, after all! I figured they were both just so pathetically small time that they're still kicking around East Blue, thinking they're badasses. Everyone else had actual dreams, but they were just total loving chumps. The heat is too hot in East Blue, I'm going to successfully fake my death and then scheme my way into being the richest man on a 3rd rate island in a 5th rate sea. Just the most complex plan, that starts with the hardest thing as step one, for the most pointless and nothing stakes. Granted, Kreig had somewhat of an actual dream. However his plan was to trick his way into being a badass on the Grand Line via a strongish East Blue fleet. When that failed he was going to take over the Grand Line with a single fake floating restaurant. Dude's lucky as poo poo he ran into Mihawk somehow before he ran into Baroque Works or someone else slightly more powerful than Pirate Captain Usopp.
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Honestly, given Crocodile and Ivankov's characterizations the trans theory never really fit. Then you add in general One Piece vibes and the actual secret is much more likely to be something like his favorite food is something only Japanese children eat. Or before being a pirate Crocoboy way a famous idol with a real cringy gimmick.
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Rody One Half posted:Mihawk's mini-boat might have seastone, letting him go over the calm belt, is the boring answer. It's actually a semi-submersible, where the coffin is the only part above the water. Below is a fairly large ship crewed by the mandrills from his island. It can cross the calm belt with ease because Mihawk is on board and none of the shrimp sea kings there can handle him.
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The World Inferno posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dveYAx2y1kc Spoilers for who gets the eye patch.  Kaku changes up the baseball hat for a flat cap.  Luci has no pigeon loyalty and keeps changing them out when they die of old age.  The rest are bad, but I could totally buy Luffy wrecking Mt. Rushmore after being offered delicious gumbo.
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Scholtz posted:I like the Palestine one but mainly because of the look on the guy's face I like how it's impossible to tell by his expression if he's pro-Israel, pro-Palestine, or simply thinking what he could do with the power of a trip to 5 Guys. (A real fan looking to change things would take Luffy to a Brazilian Steak House. Possibly a nice Chicken joint.) https://twitter.com/pr3m3d1t4t3d/status/1565446322219585536 Our future Socialist Utopia will have only statues of Luffy. Gyges fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Endorph posted:The only non-humans we've seen in the marines are giants, im pretty sure Depends on whether Long Arms and Long Legs are considered human. I'm pretty sure we've seen at least one of each. Also there's Saldeath, the Blugori, and some other people in Impel Down who may or may not be humans or technically Marines.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Also Robin x Franky is my OPT and my OTP. Usually I at least get the appeal of ships I'm not into, but I've never gotten Robin X Franky. It's like, they're both in their 30s and Robin grabbed his nuts that one time: True Love Is In The Air!
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Last Celebration posted:I was partially joking, but iirc the description the Elder Stars give that comes with the reveal that the Gum Gum was actually Human Human: Model Nika is more or less that it’s user is only limited by his imagination, which if you assume the Gears are a Zoan transformation like Chopper’s Points then it more or less makes sense that he’s using his imagination to make his Gears function. Oh! So it's a mystery fruit!
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Luffy's fruit works like X-Men powers. First you get a base power, like turning into ice and being able to make ice. Then Being made of rubber is just the base level poo poo before you awaken to the fact that you aren't a Warner brother, you're a looney toon.
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So was giving PX-Hancock snake earrings something that Akaino signed off on, or just a Vegapunk choice? Either way, good decision because I thought we were going kid strawhats without them.
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Fungah! posted:mihawk is the worlds greatest swordsman. zoro's dream is to be the worlds greatest swordsman, which means proving yourself stronger than th previous number 1. Also like they've been building it up for a thousand chapters, there's no way oda goes SIKE! NOW IT'S SHILIEW I GUESS Mihawk is the greatest swordsman, but if he gets beaten by another swordsman that person becomes the greatest swordsman. This can be seen when Zoro and Mihawk have their duel and Mihawk then promises to remain at the peak no mater how long it takes for Zoro to get there so they can fight again. Since Kuina and Zoro pinky promised to become the greatest swordsman but didn't swear to beat Mihawk, Zoro fulfills the promise by becoming #1 no matter who he beats. He's looking for the title, which apparently follows some loose parallel of boxing rules. Mihawk doesn't appear to be the first greatest swordsman, and is instead just the current best swordsman of those alive/active. To be the best, Rocky doesn't have to hunt down and beat the guy Apollo Creed beat to become champion. If Mihawk gets killed or "Shanks'd", that doesn't actually change anything about Zoro's dreams. Otherwise he'd have to find a way to revive all the past great swordsmen so he could beat them too in order to become The Best Around. You can argue whether Mihawk failing to uphold his promise to remain at the peak is narratively satisfying or not, but that's unrelated to Zoro checking off World's Greatest Swordsman on his dreamboard.
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Endorph posted:the issue is that if mihawk dies in a way that doesnt count as a swordfight, that promise is unfulfilled. like if wapol showed up and ate him i dont think thatd make wapol the worlds greatest swordsman, but zoro cant beat mihawk because hes dead If Mihawk gets killed by a non-swordsman without having previously passed the title of greatest swordsman, then the next swordmaster has to unify the title again by defeating guys left and right who were the top ranks. Of course, practically, a new greatest swordsman is going to be dueling just a metric fuckton of sword dudes after beating Mihawk anyway. Really the only thing that affects Zoro's dream is whether or not there is a recognized Greatest Swordsman in the World for him to take the title in one fight or not. Mihawk failing to stay as that guy is unimportant to Zoro's dream but would have effects on motivation and such for Zoro's fight. Kind of hope Mihawk does get disarmed at some point so he and Shanks can have fun dueling again. Unless they both die, and then they can sword fight for eternity in Pirate Heaven.
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Coby is a true bro and would never even think lustfully about Luffy's wife. That's why he's immune to Hancock.
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Crocodile is the former Empress's mother's sister's niece's cousin's former roommate.
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Cloks posted:this chapter is going to have people saying Sweet, Gin's finally back.
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Thank god Oda didn't leave us hanging, and finally solved the most important mystery of One Piece. Chopper's hat is safe. Waffleman_ posted:Vegapunk is a hivemind and is his own laboratory staff. Ah, so when Oda told us that One Piece wasn't going to turn out to be the friends we made along the way, what he meant was Vegapunk was the friends we made along the way.
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Waffleman_ posted:Or a robot. I believe we're splitting hairs between androids, cyborgs, and nano machine clones here. Actually, has there been a robot in One Piece? I think everything has been cyborgs and shades of Mecha so far.
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Endorph posted:theres the ones enel is hanging out with on the moon True, though those may be automatons instead of robots. Oda strikes me as the kind of guy who is very particular about definitional differences in self moving mechanical beings/objects.
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Eiba posted:I hope the final battle this arc is a giant robot fight where the crew works together like the Oars fight. This time Pirate Docking fails because instead of one member refusing to be a part, Luffy demands to be every part.
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Man, I still don't get what Baby 5's deal was. Other than Oda wanted to draw a sexy maid.
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I've uncovered the image upon which all of One Piece is based. IM and Monkey. It's all so clear now.
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Every time Alpacaman is mentioned I think we're talking about Alpacacino, only to instantly be disappointed. You're too good for your filler fate, Alpacacino.
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White Light posted:Unfortunately no it has not, and you are correct that we haven't heard anything about Kempo cooking since Sanji fed the community post-PH victory cooldown. The implication is that it's happening in the background. Sort of a passive buff to all the off screen training that is always happening. Sanji's cooking is like Nami's navigating, it's always going on but only very occasionally is actually shown. Whenever you don't see them on panel, and they aren't explicitly doing something else, it's safe to assume that
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/1575738476858773506?s=46&t=WV2kU_GTtuLxl8vro0j7Pw Luffy would never use math to show he was winning. Seems sketchy.
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I think pre-timeskip is currently the better half, mostly because Oda was sprinkling the world building and backstory spices into the story dough. Post-timeskip he's just been saturating the arcs with them while pouring in all the ideas he has about the arc. Post-timeskip is still fantastic, but arcs definitely feel like there's a lot of fat that could have been cut. It does all feel like once we read the final chapter with our grandkids, all the extra stuff pushed into the post-timeskip arcs will have been necessary. Just that, quite understandably, Oda didn't quite have the overall ratio of current story/world building/backstory quite right from the start. Probably because over the quarter century of working on One Piece he's come up with more cool stuff that didn't fit in at the beginning, or he didn't think of until like a decade ago. JuniperCake posted:Jack destroyed almost all of Zou because they refused to betray the Kozuki's by handing over Raizo. I'd say Pedro has some relationship with Wano and the Beast Pirates. Pedro is the in universe version of ADTRW Gin. Like, yeah I can see how the Minks would be all WWPD, but to Luffy and everyone else he's just a cool dude who showed up briefly and then went out with a bang. Pell's pre-retcon'd death was way more impactful. Luffy should have final punched Kaido for being mean to O-Tama. The most grave of all sins.
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YggdrasilTM posted:I really prefer pre-timeskip One piece art. I miss Robin's nose.
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Asuron posted:I’d argue the opposite. It is interesting how Luffy's protagonist heroics are fundamentally different than the norm in myth/folklore/literature/entertainment. Normally the hero comes in, defeats the evil tyrant, and then fixes everything because they are on a mission from Good or turn out to be the mythic Philosopher King. Luffy instead is interested only in facilitating the people fixing their own problems, and is uncaring of what the people finally decide is right. As long as there is a party and his new friend(s) are fine he doesn't care if the people reinstate the monarchy or form a communist collective. The lie of benevolent outside actors with no alternative agenda or expectation is made true in our Straw Boy.
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Scholtz posted:Quick, everyone name the arc we're currently on while hardly knowing anything about it. The arc is almost certainly not taking place on Future Island Egghead. The Strawhats and some of SWORD are probably going to team up to save Colby, so it's going to be Pirate Island Arc, Rocky Port Arc, or whichever island they end up fighting at instead.
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Ryaomon posted:yeah not really seeing the "finally a kizaru counter" thing when 14 years ago a guy pointed a regular rear end gun at him and he surrendered Ben Beckman is famous across the seas for his light manipulation bullets. The gun itself is just normal though l.
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