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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I vaguely remember there being some commercial on one of the radio stations in GTAIV advertising a fake reality show called "I Love Money". I thought it was hilarious at the time. But then a few months later, I was flipping through the guide channel on my TV and saw a show on VH1 called "I Love Money" and my face turned to the real life equivalent of :stare:

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the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Avocados posted:

How the heck do I keep my sex appeal up? I look pretty well dressed, having the best clothes San Fierro has to offer. (Still locked out of Las Venturas). I also have maxed muscle and very little fat, but my sex appeal is around 25% still.

Get the super nice sports bike and keep it un-damaged.

also, I believe (could be misremembering though) that if you don't change your clothes every so often, pedestrians would often start remarking on how bad you smell.

edit: also, each girl has different preferences I think. when they reject you, they'll usually give you some kind of a hint of what the girl's taste is like. Some of the girls don't like the full muscle CJ which kinda sucks if you spent the beginning half of the game filling up your Muscle, because why wouldn't you?

the Bunt fucked around with this message at 06:41 on May 27, 2012

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

the Bunt posted:

Get the super nice sports bike and keep it un-damaged.

also, I believe (could be misremembering though) that if you don't change your clothes every so often, pedestrians would often start remarking on how bad you smell.

edit: also, each girl has different preferences I think. when they reject you, they'll usually give you some kind of a hint of what the girl's taste is like. Some of the girls don't like the full muscle CJ which kinda sucks if you spent the beginning half of the game filling up your Muscle, because why wouldn't you?

Yeah a lot of people are telling me how awful I stink. Last time I bought clothes was when I was in Los Santos. I'll try mixing it up a bit and see where that goes. And yes the first thing I did upon starting San Andreas is bulk up and save until the day passed so i could bulk up again. Now i'm this huge meat monster.

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:
If the girl is the one I'm thinking of in SF, who lives over a fixit/garage, then she loves the monster truck you can steal from it

Although I may be thinking of the wrong one. It's easier to use a walkthrough for the dating in SA.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
Its even easier to skip it altogether since it isn't fun at all and all but two of the rewards aren't worth anything.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Cojawfee posted:

Niko, my cahsin! We need to go eat lunch or your blood sugar will get low and you will pass out on our important mission. Don't forget to pick up your blood pressure medicine.
Rockstar Games presents: Captain Novolin II

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
I'm "replaying" GTA IV (stopped when I got to the bank robbery mission before) and I'm having a lot more fun with it this time, partially because I'm being a lot less serious about and it I'm much more wiling and eager to take out loads of civilians. The physics make ramming into people and causing mayhem loads of fun. Trips to do things like dating or hanging out with someone usually devolve into me ramming into a crowd of people while the cops try to pursue me while I spray the cops and other cars with the MP5 SMG (and the occasional firearm homicide when my car breaks down and I need to get a new one) before I even get to the person.

I don't mind the huge disconnect between the plot and actual gameplay this time, because it actually makes the game pretty funny. In the mission where you have to kill Faustin, I started the mission, imminently went over to the porn store and killed everyone in it, evaded the cops, then completed the mission. The huge mood whiplash from the overdramatic intro to casually gunning down people in a porn shop, then helping set up Niko and Roman's downfall was so bizarre it had me laughing.

It's still kind of annoying that there aren't nearly as many things to do as in San Andreas, but making a ton of people go flying with GTA IV's cool ragdoll physics makes up for it for the most part.

As long as you don't take the gameplay too seriously (despite the plot trying to be serious :v:), you'll have a blast.

closeted republican fucked around with this message at 19:35 on May 27, 2012

paint dry
Feb 8, 2005
I'd definitely like to see more realism and side activities in GTA5. Maybe expand the drug trade from Chinatown Wars, have working drug corners and such. Or if they just kept it basic it could be like the Scarface game where you bought from the manufacturer and sold to street-level dealers, and there was a little haggling minigame. Actually everyone should try the Scarface game, it's not as bad as you might think.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Dave Mustard posted:

These modern era games just can't be as funny because they're not ready to be fully parodied. Our generation parodies itself and its own fads too fast for rockstar to try to me-too them when release finally happens. So most of the radio humor is GTA IV is bland at best.

Irony is a dead scene, as evidenced by the posters before you who couldn't detect an obvious joke post. But it is honestly also getting harder and harder to detect satire in popular media these days if you want to retain some faith in humanity, so I can't really blame them.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

davebo posted:

Yeah who the hell wants to mow down waves of enemies right? You guys are ridiculous and you're ruining my favorite game franchise! I say MORE weapons! Give me that RDR weapon wheel and let me go nuts. If they want to make things more serious do it in the story. GTA's are my favorite games because of the sandbox environment and how much fun I can have after the story is long over. Please don't destroy the longevity just to create some false tension in the first 10 hours of gameplay.
I understand what you're saying. For me, wanting a more realistic weapon system definitely has to do with MY IMMERSION. Still, I really liked that in LA Noir and MP3, I would start shootouts with only one or two handguns. I would then have to rely on the fallen weapons and ammo of my enemies. It added a sense of tension and progression to each mission. I do get that it really ruins the fun in starting shootouts so you can fire missiles at cop cars.

I am interested in what Rockstar is going to do. Their last three games have tried to be realistic with how the player carries weapons, and even even the GTA IV DLC attempted to make smaller powerful weapons that seemed like the character could be carrying them under his jacket.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
Aughh, gently caress Snow Storm. I like the shooting parts, but the evade the police part is a huge pain in the rear end because there's already a legion of cops when you get there and a helicopter, so it usually takes driving around nearly the entire second island in order to have a hope of shaking them off. Just when you think you're past the radius, bottom feeder Private Bob spawns almost right next to you and restarts the entire thing. Two of my three deaths there are because of the lovely evade the police section. Plus, I'm pretty sure the police radius would be a lot smaller if it wasn't for the police helicopter that spawns in that you can't shoot down. It's the type of mission that really, really needs a checkpoint so that you can start over from when the police attack if you get killed during the bad evade the police part.

Plus, every time I get killed, I have to go all the way from Elizabeth's apartment to the Chinatown gun shop to buy armor, then go to the hospital. The drive isn't that long, but it gets irradiating after you get killed by your car blowing up in your face because you had no chance to get away from it in time during the evasion part.

Whoever through that evading the police after doing through a tight area filled with enemies would be fun is an rear end in a top hat.

Philip J Fry
Apr 25, 2007

go outside and have a blast
It's much easier to escape by boat if you run the other way through the downed part of the fence towards the water.

GrickleGrass
Dec 18, 2011

I speak for the trees.
Yeah, I'm certain that mission was designed with the intention of you escaping by boat. I never understood all the stuff I read about people having difficulty with that mission, as the very first time I attempted it I ran from the building like an idiot under fire-- hightailed it like a madman over the fence and by complete luck happened upon the boat.

It's insanely easy to evade the wanted level in the water, so much so that I haven't done it any other way in subsequent playthroughs. I can definitely see how frustrating it could've been if I hadn't by complete fluke stumbled upon the boat on my first try.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

davebo posted:

Yeah who the hell wants to mow down waves of enemies right? You guys are ridiculous and you're ruining my favorite game franchise! I say MORE weapons! Give me that RDR weapon wheel and let me go nuts. If they want to make things more serious do it in the story. GTA's are my favorite games because of the sandbox environment and how much fun I can have after the story is long over. Please don't destroy the longevity just to create some false tension in the first 10 hours of gameplay.

The MP3 system is awesome and it's all about mowing down huge waves of people. It works, it just means you grab guns off the huge mobs of people you've gunned down. It's a good system because it keeps your weapon use varied, keeps you changing weapons which helps keep combat interesting because you need to mix up your tactics, and keeps you moving from enemy to enemy to make sure you've got an ammo supply.

Also holding the assault rifle by your side in your offhand while you unload with your pistol looks badass and needs to be in more things.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
As soon as I made that post, I decided to give that mission one more chance and I beat it. :v: Didn't use the boat, but there are enough straight roads on the second island that you can outrun the cops long enough to get past the cop radius and hide in an alley until their search for you is called off.

I was also happy to see that the last Elizabetha mission didn't involve me getting jumped by SWAT early on and having to avoid the police after killing the SWAT guys at a three star level, like most of her others did. Poor Manny. :ohdear:.

quote:

Yeah, I'm certain that mission was designed with the intention of you escaping by boat. I never understood all the stuff I read about people having difficulty with that mission, as the very first time I attempted it I ran from the building like an idiot under fire-- hightailed it like a madman over the fence and by complete luck happened upon the boat.

I'm pretty sure how you did it is how it's supposed to be played; haul rear end as soon as SWAT arrives, then use the boat to get past the cop radius. It's much more cool to wipe out the SWAT guys by quickly killing them one at a time with Pistol headshots, but I don't think running for dear life in a lovely pick-up truck afterwards isn't nearly that cool. :v:

closeted republican fucked around with this message at 11:15 on May 28, 2012

Philip J Fry
Apr 25, 2007

go outside and have a blast
It's also quite amazing how well the animation of Max popping some pills looks while he's holding a rifle/shotgun in one hand and a pistol/SMG in the other. Kind of odd how there's no grenades present whatsoever in single player, though.

Out of all the games I've bought for my 360, I still have GTA IV and RDR because I always develop an itch to play them again and again.

AngryCaterpillar
Feb 1, 2007

I DREW THIS
Running for dear life can be the funnest things to do in GTA. I have fond memories in SA of scraping along the road at high speed in a hunk of metal that was once a car. Hood gone, black smoke billowing out, two or three tires missing, sparks flying everywhere. And then you actually escape the cops and it's the most satisfying thing.

It's a lot of fun sometimes just holding on by a thread. In TLAD once I was doing that mission where you chase Gay Tony's boyfriend. I had attempted it enough times to have run out of ammo. I thought gently caress it, I'll just chase them unarmed and improvise on the way. After having my health reduced to almost nothing during the high speed chase, I passed a hot dog vendor. Ridiculously enough I was able to buy a hot dog and eat it and get back on my bike to continue the chase at full health. I avoided the gunfire as much as I could and waited for the limo to stumble on traffic. Seizing the chance I jacked the limo and ran the fucker down with his own car. So satisfying.

eleven extra elephants
Feb 16, 2007

Menschliches! Allzumenschliches!!

AngryCaterpillar posted:

Running for dear life can be the funnest things to do in GTA. I have fond memories in SA of scraping along the road at high speed in a hunk of metal that was once a car. Hood gone, black smoke billowing out, two or three tires missing, sparks flying everywhere. And then you actually escape the cops and it's the most satisfying thing.

I was playing GTA SA yesterday and was getting chased and trying to get back to CJ's house, I went through 3 different vehicles and was shot until I was on the last sliver of health. I upturned another car on the freeway right next to Grove Street, about 10 feet away from the house, then tried to jump over the wall into Grove Street and died of fall damage from the 4ft drop, so anti-climatic.

I always thought it was funny how you can escape the cops just by entering your house, even if they see you going in.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

GrickleGrass posted:

Yeah, I'm certain that mission was designed with the intention of you escaping by boat. I never understood all the stuff I read about people having difficulty with that mission, as the very first time I attempted it I ran from the building like an idiot under fire-- hightailed it like a madman over the fence and by complete luck happened upon the boat.

It's insanely easy to evade the wanted level in the water, so much so that I haven't done it any other way in subsequent playthroughs. I can definitely see how frustrating it could've been if I hadn't by complete fluke stumbled upon the boat on my first try.

I never even knew there was a boat and never managed to fail that mission. Four Leaf Clover I understand but I never got the complaints on Snow Storm. Not that they arent valid, maybe im just lucky

Wee Bairns
Feb 10, 2004

Jack Tripper's wingman.

I downloaded San Andreas though Xbox Live to have a couch -friendly version of the game. It plays fine and holds up surprisingly well on my 55inch tv--but I keep getting a 'dirty disc' error which tends to lock up the game. Is this the fault of a crappy download from Live, or a known issue?

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Wee Bairns posted:

I downloaded San Andreas though Xbox Live to have a couch -friendly version of the game. It plays fine and holds up surprisingly well on my 55inch tv--but I keep getting a 'dirty disc' error which tends to lock up the game. Is this the fault of a crappy download from Live, or a known issue?

When I started getting disc read errors in downloadable games, it meant that my HDD was failing.

Wee Bairns
Feb 10, 2004

Jack Tripper's wingman.

I thought that as well, so I had copied it from one thumbdrive to another and it did the same thing. I'm just going to re-download and try again.

csidle
Jul 31, 2007

On the note of escaping cops, have any of you tried to restrict yourself to being on foot and using alleyways and hiding? One of my friends and I have spent hours getting two stars or so and then hiding out in alleys, leering out from cover as the police cars pass by on the street, the radio chatter going on about the last seen location. You gotta manage your stamina, just running in the alleys so as to have sprint for crossing the streets, and all kinds of stuff. Pretty cool thing.

Zedicus Mann
May 5, 2012

I escaped them by jumping over the sidewalk barrier on a bridge and just crouch walking behind that as they drove down the bridge to the last place I was seen.
Pretty funny stuff.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
The one major thing that I ask for from GTA5 and it's not much, but allow me to free aim without having to press in the trigger half way. Red Dead Redemption's gunplay was so much more enjoyable to me and I think that was the main reason.

Sam.
Jan 1, 2009

"I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."
:qq:

blackguy32 posted:

The one major thing that I ask for from GTA5 and it's not much, but allow me to free aim without having to press in the trigger half way. Red Dead Redemption's gunplay was so much more enjoyable to me and I think that was the main reason.

The one thing I want is the ability to save anywhere, including during missions. Because gently caress having to redo the same mission a hundred times before you complete it.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
My favorite way to evade the cops in GTA IV is to manage to get in to the subway system, especially if you can get your car into there.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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Sam. posted:

The one thing I want is the ability to save anywhere, including during missions. Because gently caress having to redo the same mission a hundred times before you complete it.

The lack of mid mission save points in GTA IV is the main thing that keeps me from replaying it.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
The problem isn't the lack of mid mission save points, it's that driving in GTA4 is not fun (which makes you want to skip the driving part of the mission) and that cover shooter combat is loving poo poo (so when you get bored of playing whack a mole, you die).

Dave Mustard
Jan 23, 2007
Let me introduce myself, I'm a social disease.

Pocket Billiards posted:

The lack of mid mission save points in GTA IV is the main thing that keeps me from replaying it.

This is why i've never finished the game. That loving mission.

K8.0 posted:

The problem isn't the lack of mid mission save points, it's that driving in GTA4 is not fun (which makes you want to skip the driving part of the mission) and that cover shooter combat is loving poo poo (so when you get bored of playing whack a mole, you die).

Exactly.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



So I got a quick question on a topic that I haven't seen brought up too much in here.

What is the general view of the voice-acting in the GTA games?

I noticed that GTA3, VC and SA all put in a lot of celebrity VAs. Even still, there were some real....odd lines in those games. ("Hmmmm, nice bike!" - Was that even Liota?) Then GTA4 had a lot of people I didn't recognize instantly. Even still, I thought most of them did a great job, with whoever did Packie and Niko being my favorites.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
The voice acting has always been fine. I was actually legitimately surprised when I found out that most of the main characters in SA were voiced by so-called celebrities.

GrickleGrass
Dec 18, 2011

I speak for the trees.

K8.0 posted:

The problem isn't the lack of mid mission save points, it's that driving in GTA4 is not fun (which makes you want to skip the driving part of the mission) and that cover shooter combat is loving poo poo (so when you get bored of playing whack a mole, you die).

I agree that the shooting leaves much to be desired, but the driving isn't fun? I know there was a massive adjustment period for me when I started GTA IV because frankly I suck at driving video games and I found the driving far, far more difficult than San Andreas. But once I got the hang of the weight of the vehicles and that, man, I can't ever go back to San Andreas.

Every time I've thrown in SA to dick around the driving is the biggest detractor from my enjoyment because now I feel I've been spoiled with the driving in IV. I find the difference between the driving in SA/IV even more glaring than the difference in the shooting mechanics and that's saying a lot. I get that a lot of people might prefer the arcadey, turn-on-a-dime at 160km/h style driving in San Andreas, but I really don't think it'd feel right in the modern games and I only noticed how clunky and "unfun" it feels after having experienced GTA IV and gone back.

Okay, maybe "unfun" isn't the right word as you can pull off some pretty hilarious gravity defying poo poo with the old driving mechanics, but it just doesn't feel "right" if that makes any sense.

Just recently I've started up a fresh GTA IV game after being inspired by this thread and I've been slowly progressing through like a nerd to immerse myself as much as possible, taking my time, taking in the atmosphere and not having any issue with taking out friends, selling drugs, etc. I've been trying to spend as much money as possible-- buying new clothes instead of running to the house to put on ones I own, frequenting bars/activities, that kind of stuff, and it's fun. The pacing of the game feels much better when I'm taking my time and not just running from mission to mission, and doing it this way I really never feel like I'm being interrupted by my fat idiot cousin.

I even ran into a bit of a real world problem. You see, I'd taken Roman out for a night on the town-- we'd gotten some food, saw a show and then I decided we'd cap the night off getting shittered at Vlad's before I drunk-drove him the short ways home ("it's only a couple of blocks, Roman, I'm fine to drive!") Got him home safe and went home, went to sleep, and as I was leaving my house the next morning after saving I got a call from Michelle wanting to go on a date.

Now, I must've had at least a hundred dollars before Roman and I had our wild night out-- so I'm not sure how much that fat gently caress drank, but I didn't realize until I'd already arrived at the bowling alley with Michelle that-- gently caress-- I have $0?! It was like the equivalent of forgetting your wallet on a date, poo poo, what was I supposed to do now? We couldn't bowl without $10, and I couldn't even shamefully take her home as I'd entered the bowling alley and it wanted me to complete an activity before I could end the date.

So, well, while standing on a corner figuring what I was going to do I saw a woman using the ATM and ascertained she would definitely have at least ten dollars. Whistling innocently, I followed her a short distance into a nearby alleyway and brained her with a baseball bat for the hundred bucks or so she had on her. Needless to say, Michelle didn't exactly appreciate my entrepreneurial instincts and the date was ruined. So I went bowling myself to blow off some steam and retreated to my house afterwards for a thrilling night of sexless television.

The American Dream.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

GrickleGrass posted:

I agree that the shooting leaves much to be desired, but the driving isn't fun? I know there was a massive adjustment period for me when I started GTA IV because frankly I suck at driving video games and I found the driving far, far more difficult than San Andreas. But once I got the hang of the weight of the vehicles and that, man, I can't ever go back to San Andreas.

Every time I've thrown in SA to dick around the driving is the biggest detractor from my enjoyment because now I feel I've been spoiled with the driving in IV. I find the difference between the driving in SA/IV even more glaring than the difference in the shooting mechanics and that's saying a lot. I get that a lot of people might prefer the arcadey, turn-on-a-dime at 160km/h style driving in San Andreas, but I really don't think it'd feel right in the modern games and I only noticed how clunky and "unfun" it feels after having experienced GTA IV and gone back.

Okay, maybe "unfun" isn't the right word as you can pull off some pretty hilarious gravity defying poo poo with the old driving mechanics, but it just doesn't feel "right" if that makes any sense.

What really strikes me when going back to the III-era games is that IV's driving physics make it way easier for me to do missions where you have to run a race. Especially the various racing missions in GTA:SA, they're a pain in the dick after having played IV for a while.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
The racing missions in SA (the required ones, anyway) are all pretty drat easy. I could probably do the lowrider one ten times and only fail once.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
I've always hated races in GTA games. The car mechanics in the games are fine; it's just that the actual tracks seem to take forever and you can screw yourself over with one or two bad turns that make you miss one of those pointless checkpoints that you have to go through. Seriously, those races would be a lot better if the game didn't force you to use the checkpoints. Every time I see that I have to do a race to proceed I let out a nice "UGH".

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

blackguy32 posted:

The one major thing that I ask for from GTA5 and it's not much, but allow me to free aim without having to press in the trigger half way. Red Dead Redemption's gunplay was so much more enjoyable to me and I think that was the main reason.

So.. go into options and turn off aim assist?

DarthXaos
Oct 27, 2010

GrickleGrass posted:

So, well, while standing on a corner figuring what I was going to do I saw a woman using the ATM and ascertained she would definitely have at least ten dollars. Whistling innocently, I followed her a short distance into a nearby alleyway and brained her with a baseball bat for the hundred bucks or so she had on her. Needless to say, Michelle didn't exactly appreciate my entrepreneurial instincts and the date was ruined. So I went bowling myself to blow off some steam and retreated to my house afterwards for a thrilling night of sexless television.

The American Dream.

Denise from SA was a better girlfriend. She would have appreciated it. She would even do drive bys with you.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Install Gentoo posted:

What really strikes me when going back to the III-era games is that IV's driving physics make it way easier for me to do missions where you have to run a race. Especially the various racing missions in GTA:SA, they're a pain in the dick after having played IV for a while.

I thought it was more that races in GTA IV didn't seem to have rubber band AI rather than the driving physics making it easier? In the III era games, no matter how fast or perfectly you were driving you usually always had other racers right behind you and if you crashed your vehicle early on in the race, the other racers would slow down and allow you to catch up somewhat. GTA IV didn't seem to have this, at least in my experience.

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blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

ShineDog posted:

So.. go into options and turn off aim assist?

You can't do it for single player. Only multiplayer

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