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tarzan posted:I'm hoping for Peurto Ricans in gold lamé. I prefer the heavy metal rockers from the dead with leather pants and frizzy hair and lobsters on their heads.
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Jun 5, 2012 02:38
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That looks exactly like the Klingons from the deleted scenes from the 2009 movie. I wouldn't put TOO much stock in that.
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Jun 5, 2012 02:42
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TOOT BOOT posted:I wouldn't mind seeing the Borg if they were completely redone. Assimilation is a state of permanent ecstasy. A crewmember is captured, then rescued and turned human again, only to resent his rescuers for taking away his blissful existence. The protagonists struggle to explain why they value their freedom over an eternal life of happiness as part of the collective. Behind the scenes, the rescued crewmember seeks out the Borg, wishing to be re-assimilated. Make it happen Abrams!
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Jun 5, 2012 02:44
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Aatrek posted:That looks exactly like the Klingons from the deleted scenes from the 2009 movie. I wouldn't put TOO much stock in that. Don't ruin my excitement. It's Gowron. The next villain is Gowron. 
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Jun 5, 2012 02:45
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SpaceMost posted:I'm just tired of the whole assimilation/hive-mind archetype -- Borg, Zerg, Tyranid, the Matrix machines, etc. Hell, even the Chitauri apparently. The Matrix Machines weren't hive-minds, which was one of the things that made them interesting. They were interconnected to a high degree, but they possessed a selective hive-mind that they could opt-out of. Smith did this all the time, where he wouldn't tell his fellow Agents what he was doing or where he was unless he desired to. If the Machines were hive-minds, then you wouldn't have the Oracle, the Merovingian and his early-gen rogue Agents, or the environment programs and their daughter. Only until the Smith virus is introduced in the second film do they have the possibility of a true hive-mind. Mechafunkzilla posted:Assimilation is a state of permanent ecstasy. A crewmember is captured, then rescued and turned human again, only to resent his rescuers for taking away his blissful existence. The protagonists struggle to explain why they value their freedom over an eternal life of happiness as part of the collective. Behind the scenes, the rescued crewmember seeks out the Borg, wishing to be re-assimilated. It wouldn't even be that hard to explain. Being assimilated introduces you to thousands of minds that increases your intelligence a thousand-fold. You like being smarter and wanted and the Borg give that to you. Even when rescued, it's like a chunk has been torn out of your mind, leaving a hole that can't be refilled unless connected to the Borg.
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Jun 5, 2012 03:30
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Random idea I had... it might be neat if Cumberbatch's character were someone like Charlie X or the characters in "Where No Man Has Gone Before"- i.e. someone who gets "touched" by cosmic forces and becomes really powerful and dangerous, and also insane. It'd be a nice twist on a familiar story concept, and one none of the movies have really done.
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Jun 5, 2012 03:34
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So the TOS Klingons were campy stand-ins for the Russians, so now the new ones are campy stand-ins for Nazis? I guess?
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Great_Gerbil posted:This is more thought than the Voyager writers ever put into it, but I always imagined that the Borg queen was essentially the result of the TNG crew meddling--Hugh and probably Picard's experience--as the collective tried to cope. Like, a glitch in the system or whatever.
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Jun 5, 2012 04:29
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I hope he plays Q. gently caress it, why not?
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weekly font posted:I hope he plays Q. gently caress it, why not? Well, there was that guy in the original series that was sort of a proto-Q.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Well, there was that guy in the original series that was sort of a proto-Q. Trelane. And I'm pretty sure there was a book that basically retroactively said "yeah, he's a Q".
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BUT NO MEATBALLS posted:So the TOS Klingons were campy stand-ins for the Russians, so now the new ones are campy stand-ins for Nazis? I guess? No no no,, it has to be contemporary. The Klingons are Al Quaeda.
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Jun 5, 2012 06:11
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Pretty cool (and FAN-MADE) trailer. Calling it "Star Trek 2" in the end credits is a dead giveaway that it's a fake - but well done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-13Ic19WUs&hd=1
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Maxwell Lord posted:Random idea I had... it might be neat if Cumberbatch's character were someone like Charlie X or the characters in "Where No Man Has Gone Before"- i.e. someone who gets "touched" by cosmic forces and becomes really powerful and dangerous, and also insane. It'd be a nice twist on a familiar story concept, and one none of the movies have really done. Well, Star Trek 5 had "God" who was kinda like that, or something. And it had a fan dance.
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Mahoning posted:Don't ruin my excitement. It's Gowron. The next villain is Gowron. Could they find another actor that can stare like Robert O'Reilly?
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Jun 5, 2012 21:05
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Young Freud posted:It wouldn't even be that hard to explain. Being assimilated introduces you to thousands of minds that increases your intelligence a thousand-fold. You like being smarter and wanted and the Borg give that to you. Even when rescued, it's like a chunk has been torn out of your mind, leaving a hole that can't be refilled unless connected to the Borg. This is literally Lex Luthor's character arc in the final season of Justice League. Just throwing that out there.
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Jun 5, 2012 21:48
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Terror Sweat posted:No no no,, it has to be contemporary. The Klingons are Al Quaeda. You'd think, but on a serious note those coats are ridiculously SS looking.
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Jun 6, 2012 02:33
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 New uniforms. Maybe these are Mirror Universe Nazi-esque uniforms?
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MichiganCubbie posted:
Those really are Nazi-esque. Why the gently caress would they do that, especially since it seems to ignore the color coding theme that every series has ever had.
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Jun 6, 2012 07:31
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Maxwell Lord posted:Random idea I had... it might be neat if Cumberbatch's character were someone like Charlie X or the characters in "Where No Man Has Gone Before"- i.e. someone who gets "touched" by cosmic forces and becomes really powerful and dangerous, and also insane. It'd be a nice twist on a familiar story concept, and one none of the movies have really done. I've seen this posted on a few other places across the Internet - so this seems to be the new fan theory. From the released stills it almost looks like he could be Gary Mitchel, so maybe we'll see a story that takes place either in Starfleet and/or on the Enterprise. I'd love to have more of the original series ideas thrown into the new movie. Crossing my fingers. Would have loved Trelane, but I'll settle for Gary Mitchel or similar. Also, in the image posted above me... Anton looks 12 in his uniform 
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MichiganCubbie posted:
They're probably dress or "other" uniforms. I can't see this reboot series - which loves colour and flash - abandon the Gold, Red and Blue division uniforms. I loved how well done the uniforms in the first film were done. The fabric was made up of thousands of tiny starfleet insignias. Really nicely detailed.
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They look more Russian than Nazi, to me. Crappy, regardless, but there you have it. I was thinking they look more like Cadet Uniforms, perhaps a graduation ceremony or something but I don't remember there being anything like that in the first one so...alternate universe would be most welcome. I love those stories.
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echoplex posted:The fabric was made up of thousands of tiny starfleet insignias. Really nicely detailed. Wait really?
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Riptor posted:Wait really? Yup 
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Jun 6, 2012 20:11
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Jun 6, 2012 20:52
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Starfleet could use some Commissars to keep the discipline of the troops up.
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So, after seeing the teaser trailer, what does everyone think about the villain now? Edit: apparently I'm too goddamn stupid to realize that was fan made.
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MichiganCubbie posted:
I can't look at that and not imagine that she is literally pissing herself the moment that it was taken. She looks that excited to me.
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NarkyBark posted:I just don't get why he's blaming spock for a natural supernova, which (as far as I know) no one caused, and he lashes out at the person who was actually trying to help. Because hey, everyone can stop what's probably the most primal powerful force in creation, right? drat YOU SPOCK! Not to mention, say he gets his wish and wipes out spock and the federation. Doesn't change what's gonna happen with the supernova! I suppose they could colonize a planet that they destroy... well, no, can't do that either since they disintegrate the planets. I realize this is PAGES back, but... I play Star Trek Online, an MMO based on the continuation of the "Prime Universe" where TOS/TNG/Voyager/DS9 is based in, during the year 2409. The mid-level content goes somewhat in-depth about the supernova that wrecked Romulus. Essentially, you first start investigating early on once you reach Romulan space, searching for clues about what caused it and how. You tended to see Remans (an enslaved race in that sector of space) nearby the sites, and you start to think that maybe they caused it. Which would make sense, considering the missions later on show them trying to fight for their freedom using questionable methods and weapons technology. HOWEVER, it completely switches around and heavily hints, if not outright states that the entire supernova (which of course was actually "sped up" through subspace, meaning that Spock would have definitely reached his target before Romulus was cooked had it not for interference) was really the work of rogue Romulans working under an ancient race called the Iconians, which you find later through the mission "Coliseum" that they were collecting data about the different races of the quadrants and their reactions to situations in order to completely eliminate or subjugate them once the main Iconian fleet arrive and attempt to remake their empire (they were kicked out long ago by other ancient races, and essentially lived in a different universe and bode their time). They're also responsible for Undine (Species 8472 if you want to get technical) aggression during the time leading up to the main game. Probably not the exact question needed answering, but that's the now-canon explanation behind the Romulan homeworld destruction. CONTENT EDIT: The uniforms kind of look more ceremonial in nature, similar to the outfits in Wrath of Khan. Maybe high-ranking officer uniforms for ambassadorial/diplomatic offices? Logic Probed fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Jun 7, 2012 |
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Logic Probed posted:Probably not the exact question needed answering, but that's the now-canon explanation behind the Romulan homeworld destruction. Nothing outside of the shows and movies is considered canon, Star Trek is very explicit about this. Ville Valo fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Jun 7, 2012 |
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Jun 7, 2012 16:06
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That explanation is actually worse than having no explanation at all.
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Jun 8, 2012 01:16
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The comic book prequel to the 2009 movie was just AWFUL. Holy Christ.
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Lindelof gave an interview saying that he thinks 3 movies is enough and then it's time to pass the baton to someone else. So now I'm wondering if all of these Khan rumors were not incorrect, but just blown out of proportion. That is, Khan isn't the villain of the next film, but he is in the movie, if only for a few moments at the end, as a lead-in to the last movie of the trilogy. Something like how the Joker is hinted at at the end of Batman Begins.
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10-8 posted:Something like how the Joker is hinted at at the end of Batman Begins. If it does happen, let's hope it goes like that and not the Phoenix hint at the end of X2.
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The Dark One posted:If it does happen, let's hope it goes like that and not the Phoenix hint at the end of X2. I'd love to see Khan as the villain behind the scenes a la Moriarty. The Klingons, resurgent and suddenly more aggressive led by an unknown force. A Starfleet officer turncoat. What I'm saying is I'd like to see a rehashing of several TNG and DS9 plots with a sprinkling of Nemesis. Just, ya know, done well.
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Well, we know that Cumberbatch's character has some connection to Starfleet, because there are set photos of him having a fistfight with Spock, and Cumberbatch is wearing the same black cadet shirt that Kirk wore in the first film. Also, the original Khan report came from TrekMovie.com, not AICN, and TrekMovie broke several huge pieces of news during the buildup to Trek '09 and is not generally known for making poo poo up, which is why the report gained some traction.
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Timby posted:Well, we know that Cumberbatch's character has some connection to Starfleet, because there are set photos of him having a fistfight with Spock, and Cumberbatch is wearing the same black cadet shirt that Kirk wore in the first film.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I wouldn't mind seeing the Borg if they were completely redone. mango sentinel posted:Honestly it's not really a glitch, the Borg are an evolving entity and the TNG crew effectively gave it a perspective it was lacking and it grew out of that. Don't view it as a glitch or malfunction, but as a stepping stone to a new paradigm of existence. It might actually be cool to see this played out again in one movie instead of over the course of many episodes. Have them start out as these weird cyborg technology scavengers like in their earliest appearances. They literally have zero interest in anything organic until they assimilate Picard in that later episode.
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