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When did that Terry Funk interview go up? The amount of content going up on F4W is incredible.
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Terry Funk goes for ten mile rides on his bike. Terry Funk, who was told in 1997 that he would probably never walk again if he ever wrestled again. Jesus, Terry Funk will survive everything and be left sitting with Keith Richards and some Cockroaches at the end of time.
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Jun 23, 2012 19:43
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Gonzo McFee posted:Terry Funk goes for ten mile rides on his bike. Terry Funk, who was told in 1997 that he would probably never walk again if he ever wrestled again. When Terry Funk and Mick Foley are both dead, then we know for sure that none of us are safe.
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Jun 24, 2012 03:00
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njsykora posted:When Terry Funk and Mick Foley are both dead, then we know for sure that none of us are safe. When the WWE Legends of Wrestling roundtable did their Badasses episode, I was a little shocked that Terry wasn't included. He's tougher than hell and not someone you want to try in the ring, either - Road Dogg and Billy Gunn are on record saying that his left hand is a beast.
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Jun 24, 2012 08:35
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CombineThresher posted:When the WWE Legends of Wrestling roundtable did their Badasses episode, I was a little shocked that Terry wasn't included. He's tougher than hell and not someone you want to try in the ring, either - Road Dogg and Billy Gunn are on record saying that his left hand is a beast. Most of Terry's best work wasn't with WWE, and WWE is wrestling, so how can he be the toughest man in wrestling? I guess they could show him wrestling a half decent match out of Hulk Hogan, that counts I guess. 
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Jun 24, 2012 09:22
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LordPants posted:Most of Terry's best work wasn't with WWE, and WWE is wrestling, so how can he be the toughest man in wrestling?
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Jun 24, 2012 09:48
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LordPants posted:Most of Terry's best work wasn't with WWE, and WWE is wrestling, so how can he be the toughest man in wrestling? They talked at length about Bruiser Brody and he never wrestled for Vince, so it's not that. Those roundtables are cool for that reason, actually - they ignore Vince's self-serving company line take on wrestling and mention a lot of guys who wouldn't get mentioned in any other context.
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Jun 24, 2012 16:28
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CombineThresher posted:They talked at length about Bruiser Brody and he never wrestled for Vince, so it's not that. Those roundtables are cool for that reason, actually - they ignore Vince's self-serving company line take on wrestling and mention a lot of guys who wouldn't get mentioned in any other context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFgLxL6S1Xw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLYXf3x-evw He wrestled for his dad. I seem to remember one with Bischoff where they spend the time burying Lex Luger for leaving the WWF and joining WCW. Which was weird to say the least. Bischoff is talking poo poo about Luger I'm thinking "BUT YOU SIGNED HIM ANYWAY!" He also claims: "Lex Luger? I don't want him, I don't need him." considering the deadwood they ended up signing from the WWF I find that hard to believe.
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Jun 24, 2012 16:53
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LordPants posted:I seem to remember one with Bischoff where they spend the time burying Lex Luger for leaving the WWF and joining WCW. Which was weird to say the least. Bischoff is talking poo poo about Luger I'm thinking "BUT YOU SIGNED HIM ANYWAY!" Bischoff had this strange attitude about Luger in 95 where he said he didn't want to sign him for the first Nitro but Sting had to talk him into it. Now, thinking about it you have to be a loving retard not to see how awesome Luger walking into Nitro would be and absolutely anyone, even if they think Luger is a useless lug would bring him in for it. Luger was even willing to take a pay cut to do it. That leads me to believe that Bischoff was never being a negotiating mastermind to make Luger take a paycut nor was he a genius for bringing him over. He was actually willing to turn Luger down and had to be talked into signing him by Sting to bring him in. Eric Bischoff is stupid.
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Jun 24, 2012 17:19
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Lone Rogue posted:That leads me to believe that Bischoff was never being a negotiating mastermind to make Luger take a paycut nor was he a genius for bringing him over. He was actually willing to turn Luger down and had to be talked into signing him by Sting to bring him in. This is a fair point, although I can understand anyone's hesitance about hiring Luger, since he had a reputation for being an rear end in a top hat (in the locker room as well as the office) who wasn't worth his price tag, pay cut or not. But yes, Bischoff has a creative memory when it comes to hiding his inexperience in wrestling.
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Jun 24, 2012 17:27
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Also, Bischoff was interviewer/announcer when Luger was a top guy for WCW in the early 90's and for all we know, Luger might have been a dick to him then. Then again, this is the same guy who claims he didn't raid ECW's talent, then goes on to describe exactly how he did it. I think he's under the impression that because he didn't break any laws by signing Malenko, Eddy and Benoit that somehow, that isn't a talent raid.
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Jun 24, 2012 18:09
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Lone Rogue posted:Bischoff had this strange attitude about Luger in 95 where he said he didn't want to sign him for the first Nitro but Sting had to talk him into it. Now, thinking about it you have to be a loving retard not to see how awesome Luger walking into Nitro would be and absolutely anyone, even if they think Luger is a useless lug would bring him in for it. Luger was even willing to take a pay cut to do it. Eric Bischoff offered him a number so low he never thought he would take it and then Luger did.
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Jun 24, 2012 18:12
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Also, Bischoff was interviewer/announcer when Luger was a top guy for WCW in the early 90's and for all we know, Luger might have been a dick to him then. Then again, this is the same guy who claims he didn't raid ECW's talent, then goes on to describe exactly how he did it. I think he's under the impression that because he didn't break any laws by signing Malenko, Eddy and Benoit that somehow, that isn't a talent raid. To be completely fair, Bischoff is correct. There is no such thing as a talent raid and to call what Vince did in the 80s a talent acquisition but what Bischoff did to ECW a talent raid is unfair. Vince forced promotions like Stampede to close down and then took their top talent as almost a slave bargain. It wasn't like Eric took ECW's TV slot with their best wrestlers. Fact is, I don't believe anyone in ECW at the time were under a binding contract. If you are not under contract, meaning any other company can sign you at any time, why is it a talent raid? I always thought that was Heyman's little way to get sympathy for himself. When they did the segment on the documentary Heyman couldn't argue his point. He could just insult Bischoff.
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Jun 24, 2012 18:14
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Lone Rogue posted:I always thought that was Heyman's little way to get sympathy for himself. When they did the segment on the documentary Heyman couldn't argue his point. He could just insult Bischoff.
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Jun 24, 2012 18:18
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah Paul went, "Which is perfectly fine, but still gently caress him" The problem with Paul complaining about it is: 1. Benoit was in WCW in the early 90s. I think Eddie worked a few rounds too. 2. They were getting more "cred" for their work in Japan than ECW. Japan is why ECW brought them in. 3. When it comes to the luchadores, revisionist history seems to forget the When Worlds Collide AAA PPV in 1994 that drew 13,000 in Los Angeles and was a big eye opener to America for Lucha wrestling in Mexico. This was why luchadors was on Bischoff's radar, not ECW. ECW just happened to be a place where Konnan got a bunch of them work in America. Also, WWF had the same shot at Benoit that WCW did. Benoit even had tryout matches in the WWF, one against Owen Hart that somehow never got filmed (or nobody owns a copy of it). The reason he went to WCW was because WWF refused any tours in Japan for Benoit while WCW lied and said he'd be allowed to do them. Just so we're clear, Bischoff is a lying, stupid rear end in a top hat who did nothing wrong when signing talent from ECW. Heyman is a lying, intelligent rear end in a top hat who tried to get sympathy from the ECW cultists. And Vince gets to laugh about it because he won.
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Tonight, the podcast [TrashCast] I help out on/third mic is having it's tenth episode tonight. It is typically live but this time we are doing three hours as opposed to the typical two-hour show. You can listen at http://www.krymzonpain.com and for additional information about the show on Facebook at TrashCast. We are all professional wrestlers!
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Jun 26, 2012 01:44
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Dave's Daffney/AJ fan was amazing. "Ya know she's pretty hot but I might be able to get a shot at her where someone like Eve Torres, there's no way."
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Jun 26, 2012 10:50
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Dave was on unintentional comedy form today, if B&V tomorrow doesn't have a song with the "RAAAAARGH I'M A MONSTER" drop I'll have to go to The Board myself.
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Jun 26, 2012 11:32
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Yeah this was a classic Dave show, I wish I could remember all his funny bits.
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Jun 26, 2012 14:48
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Imagine what he'd look like carrying groceries!
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Jun 26, 2012 18:16
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The interview with Perry Saturn from Sunday's LAW is really loving sad. He was so ripped on drugs towards the end of WCW and half of his WWE run that he doesn't even remember a thing about his European title reign. He was also not present enough to know about Eddie and Benoit's and John Kronus' deaths until days later and was homeless and on drugs for two years, basically becoming a recluse. http://fightnetwork.com/news/31883:interview-perry-saturn-on-drug-addiction-benoit-and-more/ Perry Saturn posted:I was such a bad drug addict, I don’t remember decades. I was recently at the WWE training center, I was watching some matches with Shaul Guerrero, Eddie Guerrero’s daughter. There was a match with me and Eddie, and I won the European title from Eddie. I can’t ever remember being European Champion. I have no idea who I lost the belt to or anything. Decades where I was screwed up on drugs, and all that time I don’t have a memory, or a very clouded memory that I can’t piece together.
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So they gave him the concussion gimmick because he was barely functioning eh? Makes sense
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Jun 26, 2012 19:42
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triplexpac posted:So they gave him the concussion gimmick because he was barely functioning eh? Makes sense
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Yeah it sounds like he hid behind being a weird dude to mask the fact that he was hosed out of his tree a lot of the time. It kind of makes me want to go back and watch that period of his career again actually, and it's amazing he didn't hurt anyone in the ring when he was essentially blacked out.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Yeah it sounds like he hid behind being a weird dude to mask the fact that he was hosed out of his tree a lot of the time. It kind of makes me want to go back and watch that period of his career again actually, and it's amazing he didn't hurt anyone in the ring when he was essentially blacked out.
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Jun 26, 2012 19:52
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Perry said in the YouShoot that he tried to stay homeless because he was never wanted to let Dean Malenko see how bad he was.  When he came backstage to a WWE house show he was only there to see Dean. Friends forever 
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Jun 26, 2012 20:12
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Perigryn posted:Well, there that guy he stiffed and as a result got the Moppy gimmick as punishment. Saturn was extremely remorseful about that once he was reminded of it - he took a snap mare wrong and freaked out, and then the jobber took a bad bump out of the ring when Saturn threw him out so he could calm himself down.
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Jun 26, 2012 20:13
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The revelation that Mike Graham was used on Legends Roundtable for contractual reasons explains so much.
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Jun 27, 2012 05:16
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There's something bordering on surreal listening to B&V shows from 2006, and hearing them talk about John Cena being the best thing in wrestling and CM Punk sucking and how he'll never be a WWE main eventer.
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Jun 27, 2012 06:18
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Meat Recital posted:There's something bordering on surreal listening to B&V shows from 2006, and hearing them talk about John Cena being the best thing in wrestling and CM Punk sucking and how he'll never be a WWE main eventer. 2006 was post "JBL is Poopy". Goddamn
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Jun 27, 2012 10:27
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Two years ago I listened to an old Observer Radio show from the early Spike, pre-Russo days of TNA and they opened with "TNA has another fantastic PPV, which let's be honest, they pretty much always do."
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Jun 27, 2012 10:43
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"Vince is smart because he knows how to get those 10% internet wrestling fans to buy pay per views because he knows that no matter how bad the build is they'll still buy Bryan v Punk." The history of ex-WWE writers not having a clue continues (this is a general observation of the interview as a whole, not the internet mark thing), there were some moments where he said something and Bryan was like "... sure..."
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Jun 27, 2012 11:01
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LordPants posted:"Vince is smart because he knows how to get those 10% internet wrestling fans to buy pay per views because he knows that no matter how bad the build is they'll still buy Bryan v Punk." In all fairness to the guy (and this was a pretty good interview I thought) quite a few hardcore fans would buy the PPV just for Bryan/Punk. I just want this guy to be on more often since he seems to have some great crazy Vince stories.
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Jun 27, 2012 11:43
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Haha listening to the Giant Bombcast, they were talking about Twitter and Jeff said something like "Wrestling is the worst for this. They're like male porn actors, in that they're desperate for mainstream attention. They constantly pop up with their twitter and stats on how many people watch, this is why I only watch wrestling once every 3 months"
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Jun 27, 2012 13:54
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God I love Bombcast wrestling rants. Does anyone remember the one where they said "Hacksaw isn't crazy per normal people standards, he's crazy by wrestling people standards." Or something like that?
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LordPants posted:"Vince is smart because he knows how to get those 10% internet wrestling fans to buy pay per views because he knows that no matter how bad the build is they'll still buy Bryan v Punk." I haven't heard the interview yet but this is pretty much spot on IMO, although far from unique to that particular storyline. A main reason WWE is still afloat is because a decent chunk of their core business audience thinks the product completely blows (because it does) yet still watches RAWs and PPVs. It's quite cathartic to just stop watching, if you're one of those people.
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Jun 27, 2012 14:11
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jeffersonlives posted:I haven't heard the interview yet but this is pretty much spot on IMO, although far from unique to that particular storyline. A main reason WWE is still afloat is because a decent chunk of their core business audience thinks the product completely blows (because it does) yet still watches RAWs and PPVs. Removing Raw from my DVR schedule was one of the most liberating things I have ever done. Wow I sound like such an American rear end in a top hat for saying that.
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LividLiquid posted:Two years ago I listened to an old Observer Radio show from the early Spike, pre-Russo days of TNA and they opened with "TNA has another fantastic PPV, which let's be honest, they pretty much always do." Right before they got that deal, through to about a year later, pretty much every show WAS great. Hell, the pre-Spike webcast Impact was a drat fine little wrestling show, because they just put simple angles and good matches out to build the PPVs.
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Dave Meltzer posted:--Mark Henry, Zack Ryder, Lilian Garcia and Natalya from WWE will be appearing tonight in Brooklyn at MCU Park (Cyclone Stadium) for the Cyclones game promoting Be a Star. I suppose they are going to tell all the kids there what to do if uncaring assholes in school call them names like horse face and Secretariat or tease them about farting in class among other things, or try to humiliate them so badly in trying to get them to no longer hang out with the cool guys. I get everything but secretariat.
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Arbite posted:I get everything but secretariat. Secretariat is one of the most famous race horses. It and Lilian are indistinguishable to HHH Edit: Yeah, even for a while when Impact was poo poo, they consistently put on great PPVs. The booking mentality at the time was "we will make a card full of great wrestling at the PPV, and book the storylines back from there" So you'd get stupid angles a lot of the time, but at least the payoff would be Joe vs Daniels vs AJ, rather than Crimson vs Morgan.
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