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Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

lol you should write brainfuck :iamafag: :fuckingkillme:

# ? Jun 26, 2012 06:20

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 09:39

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ZShakespeare posted:

They're "weird" in the sense that once you actually get a job you'll be writing Java for SAP in a cubicle for the rest of your life.

true

# ? Jun 26, 2012 06:26

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

based on casual inspection, forth is rad as hell

# ? Jun 26, 2012 06:46

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Apr 17, 2007

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these are loafers

# ? Jun 26, 2012 06:46

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

haw, like on that simpson show!

# ? Jun 26, 2012 06:48

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

rotor posted:

based on casual inspection, forth is rad as hell

except that the only way to use it for any interesting application is to reinvent smalltalk around it

# ? Jun 26, 2012 07:07

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

# ? Jun 26, 2012 07:11

EMILY BLUNTS: Jan 1, 2005

rotor posted:

based on casual inspection, forth is rad as hell

whoah, drat furries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUF_%28programming_language%29

# ? Jun 26, 2012 07:24

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

haskell

# ? Jun 26, 2012 07:47

penus de milo: Mar 9, 2002; CHAR CHAR

ZShakespeare posted:

For one of my final projects before I get my degree I have to learn a "weird" language and do a big report that compares and blah blah blah with examples. The suggested languages are Clojure, Erlang, Go, Groovy, and Scala. I can ask for approval to do any language though as long as it's an actually language so no HLA or forth or some poo poo like that.

what is the most YOSPOS language?

http://pragprog.com/book/btlang/seven-languages-in-seven-weeks

skimming through this book might be useful for you

# ? Jun 26, 2012 09:35

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

use Whitespace for your project

# ? Jun 26, 2012 11:45

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

ZShakespeare posted:

For one of my final projects before I get my degree I have to learn a "weird" language and do a big report that compares and blah blah blah with examples. The suggested languages are Clojure, Erlang, Go, Groovy, and Scala. I can ask for approval to do any language though as long as it's an actually language so no HLA or forth or some poo poo like that.

what is the most YOSPOS language?

PROLOG

# ? Jun 26, 2012 11:48

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

ZShakespeare posted:

For one of my final projects before I get my degree I have to learn a "weird" language and do a big report that compares and blah blah blah with examples. The suggested languages are Clojure, Erlang, Go, Groovy, and Scala.

Clojure, Erlang, Go have interesting concurrency primitives - stm, message passing, channels. Scala and Groovy mostly. differ from java in the type systems - Scala has more, Groovy has less.

Clojure is probably the most different in syntax, erlang is probably the most different in semantics. Groovy is just java without type signatures.

Clojure, Erlang are good choices for weirdness.

You could also put F#, Ocaml, Haskell on there too.

quote:

I can ask for approval to do any language though as long as it's an actually language so no HLA or forth or some poo poo like that.

what is the most YOSPOS language?

I joked with prolog, but honestly it's the most removed from all the weird languages you suggest. The closest thing to writing prolog is SQL. Thing is, it's so weird as to make the comparisons less than useful.

# ? Jun 26, 2012 11:57

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

tef posted:

I joked with prolog, but honestly it's the most removed from all the weird languages you suggest. The closest thing to writing prolog is SQL. Thing is, it's so weird as to make the comparisons less than useful.

i like how some people think sql is weird when it actually makes pretty good sense for working with pure data structures

it definitely is written in teh wrong order though joins should go first like with linq

also gently caress wheres me natural joins already

# ? Jun 26, 2012 12:01

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

ZShakespeare posted:

For one of my final projects before I get my degree I have to learn a "weird" language and do a big report that compares and blah blah blah with examples. The suggested languages are Clojure, Erlang, Go, Groovy, and Scala. I can ask for approval to do any language though as long as it's an actually language so no HLA or forth or some poo poo like that.

what is the most YOSPOS language?

do groovy but just write normal java

# ? Jun 26, 2012 13:58

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Janin posted:

none of those languages are "weird" unless your professor only knows java and c#

why aren't you allowed to use forth? it's got a language spec, several mostly-compatible implementations, and lots of libraries.

Another unusual language is J http://www.jsoftware.com/

yes. they are weird because no one would use them over java/c# irl

# ? Jun 26, 2012 13:58

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

what about dart

# ? Jun 26, 2012 14:31

skeevy achievements: Feb 25, 2008; by merry exmarx

ZShakespeare posted:

For one of my final projects before I get my degree I have to learn a "weird" language and do a big report that compares and blah blah blah with examples. The suggested languages are Clojure, Erlang, Go, Groovy, and Scala. I can ask for approval to do any language though as long as it's an actually language so no HLA or forth or some poo poo like that.

what is the most YOSPOS language?

if you want to coast through the assignment, choose Groovy

if you want to learn some poo poo, choose Clojure

if you want to learn some poo poo and maybe get a job in the Bay Area afterwards, choose Scala

# ? Jun 26, 2012 15:13

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

I'd argue that erlang would be a good choice because there is lots to compare and contrast, unlike groovy

# ? Jun 26, 2012 15:58

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ZShakespeare posted:

They're "weird" in the sense that once you actually get a job you'll be writing Java for SAP in a cubicle for the rest of your life.

I got a job writing scala.

# ? Jun 26, 2012 17:10

Shameproof: Mar 23, 2011

I got a C# question. If I'm doing a Composite Pattern using interfaces, is there a fast way to implement an interface with a masterclass and then automatically delegate the behavior to a component?

Here's an example, I'd really like to not have to write out how BaseballPlayer does the SwingBat, CallShot, and RunToBase methods, and just have all that responsibility offloaded to BatBehavior.

code:

    interface IBattingBehavior
    {
        void SwingBat();
        void CallShot();
        void RunToBase(int baseNumber);
    }

    class BaseballPlayer : IBattingBehavior
    {
        IBattingBehavior BatBehavior;

        public void SwingBat() { BatBehavior.SwingBat();}
        public void CallShot() { BatBehavior.CallShot();}
        public void RunToBase(int baseNumber) { BatBehavior.RunToBase(baseNumber);}
    }

# ? Jun 26, 2012 17:23

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

why is the bat running to the base

did you mean Cricket?

# ? Jun 26, 2012 17:29

Shameproof: Mar 23, 2011

The batter is running, not the bat. But that's not important!

# ? Jun 26, 2012 17:36

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

should be BatterBehavior, imo

# ? Jun 26, 2012 17:37

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

or really just Batter

# ? Jun 26, 2012 17:38

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

c# owns, i'm sorry i ever doubted you shaggar

# ? Jun 26, 2012 18:21

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

# ? Jun 26, 2012 18:21

CaptainMeatpants: Jun 1, 2010

c# does own and i wish people would pay me to use it

# ? Jun 26, 2012 18:28

Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

Shameproof posted:

I got a C# question. If I'm doing a Composite Pattern using interfaces, is there a fast way to implement an interface with a masterclass and then automatically delegate the behavior to a component?

Here's an example, I'd really like to not have to write out how BaseballPlayer does the SwingBat, CallShot, and RunToBase methods, and just have all that responsibility offloaded to BatBehavior.
code:
    interface IBattingBehavior
    {
        void SwingBat();
        void CallShot();
        void RunToBase(int baseNumber);
    }

    class BaseballPlayer : IBattingBehavior
    {
        IBattingBehavior BatBehavior;

        public void SwingBat() { BatBehavior.SwingBat();}
        public void CallShot() { BatBehavior.CallShot();}
        public void RunToBase(int baseNumber) { BatBehavior.RunToBase(baseNumber);}
    }

If you create the interface first then when your class extends the interface a little thing should pop up allowing you to automatically implement all the interfaces methods. This is assuming you're using visual studio

its easy to miss like a tiny red line will appear at the end of your class's name. hover your mouse over it and you should see that as an option.

# ? Jun 26, 2012 18:34

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

Shameproof posted:

I got a C# question. If I'm doing a Composite Pattern using interfaces, is there a fast way to implement an interface with a masterclass and then automatically delegate the behavior to a component?

Here's an example, I'd really like to not have to write out how BaseballPlayer does the SwingBat, CallShot, and RunToBase methods, and just have all that responsibility offloaded to BatBehavior.
code:
    interface IBattingBehavior
    {
        void SwingBat();
        void CallShot();
        void RunToBase(int baseNumber);
    }

    class BaseballPlayer : IBattingBehavior
    {
        IBattingBehavior BatBehavior;

        public void SwingBat() { BatBehavior.SwingBat();}
        public void CallShot() { BatBehavior.CallShot();}
        public void RunToBase(int baseNumber) { BatBehavior.RunToBase(baseNumber);}
    }

e: i'm dumb

# ? Jun 26, 2012 18:35

Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

edit: ha i saw that edit

# ? Jun 26, 2012 18:36

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

i'm new at this c# thing :saddowns:

# ? Jun 26, 2012 18:38

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

i get paid to undo lovely c# done by terrible offshore contractors, i rewrite their entire poo poo with like 8 lines of linq

the problem comes in when their "job security" database techniques gently caress me by doing cross database joins on different physical machines and wreck my elegance

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:02

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

i would probably use c# more if the entity framework worked w/ our sql 2000 server

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:07

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

do they not have sql server 2008 r2 in maine yet (soon to be sql server 2012 awesome edition)

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:12

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

we're slowly working on a 2008 r2 migration. they dont want to go to 2012 b/c some dumb thing like not jumping on new tech or w/e.

right now they're still deciding if we should go with enterprise or just get standard and spend 2x as much on hacks to get the features in enterprise. also i have been informed that they were able to free up enough disk on the san so that the new sql VMs wont need to be on a lun shared with other vms!

i am assured that this will all work out.

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:15

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

also death to all orms. statement mapping ftw

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:17

Shameproof: Mar 23, 2011

I was hoping there was a library that lets me do it like this.

code:

    interface IBatterBehavior
    {
        void SwingBat();
        void CallShot();
        void RunToBase(int baseNumber);
    }

    class BaseballPlayer : IBatterBehavior
    {
	//Automatically make Batter handle the IBatterBehavior implementation.
	[Implementer<IBatterBehavior>()]
        IBattingBehavior Batter;

	//This code becomes unnecessary
        public void SwingBat() { Batter.SwingBat();}
        public void CallShot() { Batter.CallShot();}
        public void RunToBase(int baseNumber) { Batter.RunToBase(baseNumber);}
    }

or something similar.

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:17

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

Shaggar posted:

we're slowly working on a 2008 r2 migration. they dont want to go to 2012 b/c some dumb thing like not jumping on new tech or w/e.

right now they're still deciding if we should go with enterprise or just get standard and spend 2x as much on hacks to get the features in enterprise. also i have been informed that they were able to free up enough disk on the san so that the new sql VMs wont need to be on a lun shared with other vms!

i am assured that this will all work out.

lol if you are not separating each disk as a separate lun

each sql server instance should have 7-9 luns, fiber as fast as possible, and the logs should be raid 1

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:23

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 09:39

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

Shameproof posted:

I was hoping there was a library that lets me do it like this.

code:

    interface IBatterBehavior
    {
        void SwingBat();
        void CallShot();
        void RunToBase(int baseNumber);
    }

    class BaseballPlayer : IBatterBehavior
    {
	//Automatically make Batter handle the IBatterBehavior implementation.
	[Implementer<IBatterBehavior>()]
        IBattingBehavior Batter;

	//This code becomes unnecessary
        public void SwingBat() { Batter.SwingBat();}
        public void CallShot() { Batter.CallShot();}
        public void RunToBase(int baseNumber) { Batter.RunToBase(baseNumber);}
    }

or something similar.

Uhh, the whole point of an interface is having a base class with methods that can be implemented in multiple different ways with the same results. Needing to implement those methods yourself is the whole point of an interface. Otherwise you'd just use an abstract class.

# ? Jun 26, 2012 19:25

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