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Nodoze posted:You can do net and poison arrow combos with the right assists and in XF-3 you can relaunch with his forward + M twice for a million damage with the slide combo. If you play Jill or Skrull you can do some things too You can cancel S into exploding arrow? This gives me so many ideas. 
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Krad posted:Does Hawkeye have any combos at all aside from his regular BnB? I can manage to do a reset with Dante's jamming, but that's about it. Here's a crappy video of that net arrow loop Nodoze was talking about. It looks cool and feels really good to pull off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O29bv0AKIz8
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Wozbo posted:I just did a sentinel h jump loop once and I'm an extreme baddie. Timing was drat near impossible. It looks like the hitstun scaling rapidly increases in proportion with how long you are on the ground? Apparently you have to hit them with a special move in the air before you land.
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Jun 26, 2012 04:53
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Krad posted:You can cancel S into exploding arrow? This gives me so many ideas. You're canceling the S into a super jump and canceling the pre-jump frames into the special move, actually.
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Jun 26, 2012 04:59
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iPodschun posted:Inspired by the Trish infinite, here's a Magneto one: Can't wait to see what MarlinPie does with Doom.
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Jun 26, 2012 05:01
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Erik The Viking posted:Can't wait to see what MarlinPie does with Doom. MarlinPie is probably just pissed that someone revealed his secret Evo tech ahead of schedule.
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Jun 26, 2012 05:04
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Champ just did the mag-doom-phoenix one on stream after a couple tries, and then came up with one for doom/mags before he went to go get food
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Jun 26, 2012 05:26
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10 more years indeed.
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Apparently the idea behind how this works is that in order to prevent hitstun scaling from kicking back in you have to land during the animation of an air normal, interrupting it before a certain point (probably within the active frames?) and then immediately rejump. For Sentinel, it's something like this:SRK/Random Steam Monster/Whatever posted:Sentinel jump loop TAC glitch: Down exchange > Fly > fly over to them > j.A > j.C > unfly > j.C (hit as soon as you hit the ground) > ( land jump immediately > j. A > j. C > fly > j.A > j.C > unfly > j.C (hit as soon as you hit the ground) ) x n
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iPodschun posted:Inspired by the Trish infinite, here's a Magneto one: Oh hey, speaking of infinites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5WGvbBhDSY
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Jun 26, 2012 09:00
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Also infinites with Joe bomb assist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUrf78SM-FQ
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:You're canceling the S into a super jump and canceling the pre-jump frames into the special move, actually. Oh. Uhhh. So I use S, Up, then immediately DP? Sounds kinda hard to pull off.
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Jun 26, 2012 11:27
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In situations like this you can do S -> special move command -> up + button. Like TK'ing, but faster.
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Brett824 posted:Apparently the idea behind how this works is that in order to prevent hitstun scaling from kicking back in you have to land during the animation of an air normal, interrupting it before a certain point (probably within the active frames?) and then immediately rejump. For Sentinel, it's something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92O1x2jdJws I'm wrong and I just saw something explaining the theory of it. E2: Dormammu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1S5re71It4 Wozbo fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jun 26, 2012 |
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Are the only characters that can do the air-dash canceled TAC glitch Morrigan, Zero, Chun-li and Spider-man? If that is the list then Zero went from S tier to S+++ tier. Who cares if Zero can't do the infinite, he has arguably the best neutral game and he can set it up.
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Dren posted:Are the only characters that can do the air-dash canceled TAC glitch Morrigan, Zero, Chun-li and Spider-man? It doesn't even matter, anyone with flight can reposition off of any tac.
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He basically has no reason to do it due to his damage output, while other characters who have incredible mixup and neutral game options but low output can flourish because it makes their output somewhat irrelevant. Those would be like Strider, Jill(?), Firebrand... and probably other characters I can't remember but yeah. Also if characters who have subpar DHCs but fantastic assists (and maybe are subpar on point, too) get them it also gives players a choice to be able to use them and still have the output of the guys better than them. Like, if Iron Man somehow had an infinite that worked all ways you might actually pick him over doom just because you really love Unibeam or something. Considering it from a perspective that it'll also be used for 2char left situations it also re-introduces one touch (kinda-sorta 2 touch actually... a "forced" reset) kills to that number while gaining resources instead of being down on them constantly unless you're a top tier. It also opens up 300% team killer gimmicks with X-23 and Shuma Gorath... and stupid crap involving Phoenix and Vergil anchors. I can't say whether it's a good thing or a bad thing but man I really like watching the cooler looking infinites at the very least. We need more stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wibKdqiqZ4s
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I was referring to Zero's ability to do the double TAC. That is, air dash cancel his TAC to cause the opponent's TAC counter to get spent, then TAC again in whatever direction he wants. Zero can set up infinites more effectively because he can airdash cancel his TACs. Something I saw pointed out on SRK is that the infinite also increases the value of characters who can set you up for a TAC then not do one and reset you when your counter comes out as a j.S. I'm pretty sure Deadpool can do that by hitting j.H, letting them fall out, and tossing a bolo.
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Dren posted:I was referring to Zero's ability to do the double TAC. That is, air dash cancel his TAC to cause the opponent's TAC counter to get spent, then TAC again in whatever direction he wants. Is the double TAC a guaranteed deal or can you counter it in some way?
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Fenn the Fool! posted:Is the double TAC a guaranteed deal or can you counter it in some way? You have to predict they'll double TAC, so you don't try to counter the first one they do. After they do the first TAC, then you can guess correctly to break it like a normal TAC. You can't do two "guesses" within a cetain amount of frames, so you have to wait if you think they're going to double-TAC. I'm fairly sure thats how it's explained, anyway.
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Ixiggle posted:You have to predict they'll double TAC, so you don't try to counter the first one they do. After they do the first TAC, then you can guess correctly to break it like a normal TAC. You can't do two "guesses" within a cetain amount of frames, so you have to wait if you think they're going to double-TAC. I'm fairly sure thats how it's explained, anyway. Yeah that's it. It's the same principle as the XFC double TAC except it doesn't use Xfactor. The dash canceled or XF canceled TAC is not guaranteed. Your opponent can wait and counter the second TAC. The canceling techniques give you an option that beats people who mash TAC counter. Of course, they could mash with a button besides S to fake you out then counter the second TAC.
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Dren posted:Yeah that's it. It's the same principle as the XFC double TAC except it doesn't use Xfactor. In the case of an infinite (for most characters), the second TAC is still a guess though. Reading and then guessing the double TAC is pretty heavily not in your favor.
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Well, looks like we're getting that balance patch this year after all.
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Whatever happened to that scrubquotes website? I got a good one.Darknessbeast10 posted:Yeah, no. I'm not from the MVC2 days, i prefer to work for my wins. More infinities, first Sent and Dante, then Jean. Apparently Hsien-ko has one but it's not on video yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXoaggvoYg4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Um3A5n4OO0
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Erik The Viking posted:Can't wait to see what MarlinPie does with Doom. Most of Doom's air normals are wierd though, so wouldn't he have a hard time with this? You couldn't use much more than his j.M to keep people juggled in the air, since his j.S sends them down to the ground immediately, but I'm sure I'm forgetting SOMEthing. edit: his j.H I guess? I can't really visualize how it would work.
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Erik The Viking posted:Can't wait to see what MarlinPie does with Doom. 
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Hawaiian Shirt posted:Most of Doom's air normals are wierd though, so wouldn't he have a hard time with this? You couldn't use much more than his j.M to keep people juggled in the air, since his j.S sends them down to the ground immediately, but I'm sure I'm forgetting SOMEthing. I'm sure he's working on it and I'm sure he'll find something.  edit: See above Wozbo posted:What about butter gun? That's j.H. Also why do people call it "butter gun"? The beam isn't even yellow. 
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Erik The Viking posted:That's j.H. Also why do people call it "butter gun"? The beam isn't even yellow. It was yellow in MvC2.
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[AG] MarlinPie @MarlinPie this means almost every char has one. inf requires decent aerial mobility for height adjustment and for timing. not necessarily an airdash. [AG] MarlinPie @MarlinPie time elapsed to find doom's tac inf: 2 mins. dante's: 2 mins(but hard) magneto's: 10 mins(but free to execute). also, i broke it down. He's still working on Ammy. I'm very scared of this man.
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I hope i'm not the only one who finds that TAC infinite boring as gently caress to watch. The next time I see someone complain about Zero's lightning loops i'm just gonna link one of these videos and tell them to shut up.
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Surprised he hasn't looked for one for viper yet, she's gotta have one i would think.quote:I hope i'm not the only one who finds that TAC infinite boring as gently caress to watch. The next time I see someone complain about Zero's lightning loops i'm just gonna link one of these videos and tell them to shut up. Seeing how this will play out at evo is going to be interesting more than anything.
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Dias posted:[AG] MarlinPie @MarlinPie  I can't wait for someone to post it so I can spend hours failing to be able to do it. TaurusOxford posted:I hope i'm not the only one who finds that TAC infinite boring as gently caress to watch. The next time I see someone complain about Zero's lightning loops i'm just gonna link one of these videos and tell them to shut up. Lightning loops are cool. TAC infinites are cool. Anything requiring good execution is cool to watch. I'm sorry you feel otherwise. Nobody at EVO who is competing for thousands of dollars is going to care how "boring" anyone thinks their combos are to watch. Erik The Viking fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jun 26, 2012 |
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MarlinPie will have to rename himself InfinitePie. mmmmmmmmm, Infinite Pie :homer:
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Erik The Viking posted:Lightning loops are cool. TAC infinites are cool. Anything requiring good execution is cool to watch. I'm sorry you feel otherwise. Nobody at EVO who is competing for thousands of dollars is going to care how "boring" anyone thinks their combos are to watch. Nah they suck. Hopefully this gets people to stop playing this game but I doubt it until capcom releases something new to get people's attention. Jmcrofts fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jun 26, 2012 |
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Justin said on twitter yesterday he was gonna figure out Storm's TAC infinite. Hope he does in time for evo!
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Jmcrofts posted:Nah they suck. Hopefully this gets people to stop playing this game but I doubt it until capcom releases something new to get people's attention. Yes please continue to tell us people in the UMVC3 thread that we shouldn't play UMVC3 anymore. This strategy has worked countless times in the past. Like when I went into the DOTA thread last week and told everyone to stop playing it. Worked like a charm.
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Erik The Viking posted:Lightning loops are cool. TAC infinites are cool. Anything requiring good execution is cool to watch. I'm sorry you feel otherwise. Nobody at EVO who is competing for thousands of dollars is going to care how "boring" anyone thinks their combos are to watch. Jesus, touchy much? I said the TAC infinites are boring to watch, not that I hope everyone who uses it dies in a fire. Calm the gently caress down.
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Erik The Viking posted:TAC infinites are cool. Tac infinites are not cool, and the TAC mechanic is dumb as hell. Cat Machine posted:TAC infinites are really boring [and] have none of the interesting risk/reward or strategic elements that MVC2 infinites had. JesusLovesRonwell fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jun 26, 2012 |
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TAC infinites are really boring that have none of the interesting risk/reward or strategic elements that MVC2 infinites had, it's literally a loop of three or four moves in the corner x10 or whatever until death.
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