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omgwtf
Nov 30, 2003
waht

Hogscraper posted:

That last one sounds like a transistor organ with an envelope filter on it. Possibly an FM synth recreation of a transistor organ.

Try these and report back...

Martinic Combo Model V: http://www.martinic.com/combov/
Martinic Combo Model F: http://www.martinic.com/combof/

Thanks! I can certainly work things out from here. This vst/plugin is really great!

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Misc
Sep 19, 2008

I've been trying for a couple of days to recreate a sound in "Rolling" by Soul Coughing but I don't really know where to start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k84-cRlwz7I

It's the overdriven, feedbacky bass-sound that comes in at 0:31. Not sure if its an actual bass being played in the recording, the bass player used an upright bass live and never tried to recreate the sound in the recording onstage.

I'm using Native Instruments' Guitar Rig so it has all sorts of gizmos to use. For guitars I have a Les Paul copy, Fender Jazzmaster, and a P-bass. I also have a Behringer V-ampire amp head, but that's mostly used for playing live.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Wondering if anyone could tell me where some of the world samples may have come from in this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEydzVdnos

Really, anything like them would do. Specifically I'm looking for the flute (maybe a shakuhachi) and some of the unique percussion elements, like the woodblock and taiko-esque drums.

Cpt. Spring Types
Feb 19, 2004

Wait, what?
I'm a guitar effects newb. What would I do if I wanted to get my guitar sounding like Jack White's on Freedom at 21? Based on the live videos I've seen, he's playing a Telecaster, so I know that would help a lot (though it doesn't sound the same live as the studio version), but could I reasonably fake it on a guitar with humbuckers? It would be way cool to jam this song with folks, but it always sounds wrong to me when I play it without that kind of tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i9zVWfFRbM

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master

Cpt. Spring Types posted:

I'm a guitar effects newb.
Play the guitar as close to the bridge as you can get and play the string pretty hard and that'll get you 80% of the way there.

It also sounds like this guitar is doubled. as in another guitar track playing the same thing. Gives it kind of a super light chorus-y sound.

Cpt. Spring Types
Feb 19, 2004

Wait, what?
Cool, thanks. I'll give it a shot!

Cumfartcocktails
Sep 18, 2010
Avatar Fail. :downsbravo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCVCQmxb7YQ
How would I re-create that pitched kick drum/percussive bassline that's going on in this song? It provides the entire driving force of this song and whenever it resolves back to the root I feel like my head will explode it's so good. I'd need to figure out how to make it produce different in tune pitches and I'd need it to sustain.
I got an idea for a song that I want to rough out before going to bed that would use something similar and I don't know how to do this so will probably just use a synth bass to sketch out where I want the chord changes until I figure it out/someone shows me. Any help is appreciated.

Edit: If you don't know this song/immediately know what I'm talking about in this song you'll probably need headphones to hear it clearly.

Cumfartcocktails fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Jun 30, 2012

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

Cumfartcocktails posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCVCQmxb7YQ
How would I re-create that pitched kick drum/percussive bassline that's going on in this song?

It's a Roland TR 808 bass drum that has been sampled, stretched and mapped across the keyboard. What software are you using? in the meantime, here's a decent DOA thread on synthing TR kicks http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?threadid=325593

Sad Mammal
Feb 5, 2008

You see me laughin
How would I go about getting an "Ennio Morricone" tone out of my guitar: a metallic, sparse, steel-string sound?

Underflow
Apr 4, 2008

EGOMET MIHI IGNOSCO

Sad Mammal posted:

How would I go about getting an "Ennio Morricone" tone out of my guitar: a metallic, sparse, steel-string sound?

Small tube combo, spring reverb, Fender type guitar (single coil pick-ups), flatwound strings. Turn up the treble a bit.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
Good news everyone; the images in the topicstart have been reuploaded again. I still have to find an alternative that does not suck for the mp3s.

Twinty Zuleps
May 10, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
Yay

mottbag
Nov 11, 2009

ynohtna posted:

I'd guess at an appropriately pitched and processed Sequential Drumtraks or Alesis HR-16.

Be sure to check out cabasa/tambourines as well as closed hi-hats.

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

I think that's it!
Thanks dudes!

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master

Sad Mammal posted:

How would I go about getting an "Ennio Morricone" tone out of my guitar: a metallic, sparse, steel-string sound?

My go to for that sound is always a Danelectro Baritone through almost any Fender amp with a spring reverb. I'm partial to the Twin myself. Gain 6, Treble 6, Mid 3, Bass 2. Verb to taste. Mic with a 57 off axis on the cone edge. Magical.

Cool Blue Reason
Jan 7, 2010

by Lowtax

MockingQuantum posted:

Wondering if anyone could tell me where some of the world samples may have come from in this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEydzVdnos

Really, anything like them would do. Specifically I'm looking for the flute (maybe a shakuhachi) and some of the unique percussion elements, like the woodblock and taiko-esque drums.

This would have everything you need and more: http://www.garritan.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=151&Itemid=169

It sounds pretty good out of the box, some of the samples could be better though. 350 instruments and a ton of control for $150 is about as good of a deal as you're going to get for stuff like this.

These guys also have a lot of that sort of thing: http://www.bestservice.de/

I can't vouch for any of their products as I've never used any, but it's worth taking a look at them.

Cool Blue Reason fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jul 27, 2012

Puppet
Nov 21, 2007
You can't cry when you're too tough to die.
I've always wondered how they make this string-like sound in disco music. Are these real acoustic strings? It sounds like a lot of stuff but not exactly like anything I know. Sorry if it's obvious to anyone.

A good example is at 0:12 in this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i46N2ZFPb0

Barn Door
Mar 6, 2007

shut the fuck up charles

Puppet posted:

I've always wondered how they make this string-like sound in disco music. Are these real acoustic strings? It sounds like a lot of stuff but not exactly like anything I know. Sorry if it's obvious to anyone.

A good example is at 0:12 in this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i46N2ZFPb0

Glorious real acoustic string arrangement. Healthy amounts of reverb.

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhDnhi5Y1Hk

Lots of times great arrangements like this will be sampled, especially in hip hop.

Barn Door fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Jul 28, 2012

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Barn Door posted:

Glorious real acoustic string arrangement. Healthy amounts of reverb.

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhDnhi5Y1Hk

Lots of times great arrangements like this will be sampled, especially in hip hop.

Actually, don't be surprised if any given song from the 70's or early 80's used these or one of their cousins:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/arp/string.php
http://www.vintagesynth.com/misc/string_melody.php

String synths were quite the hot item back then.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
There's a short little plucky synth run at :20 in this track and I've been trying to replicate the sound in Massive without much luck. Any ideas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItcvXGMskY

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Any tips on how to create a synth similar to the "hollow" synth in this song at the 30s marker? Sounds like there's a noise component, but beyond that, I'm clueless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3PwqBBZUaE&t=30s

--edit: I have NI Massive at hand. Is it even suited for this?

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jul 28, 2012

real nap shit
Feb 2, 2008

Combat Pretzel posted:

Any tips on how to create a synth similar to the "hollow" synth in this song at the 30s marker? Sounds like there's a noise component, but beyond that, I'm clueless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3PwqBBZUaE&t=30s

--edit: I have NI Massive at hand. Is it even suited for this?

Sounds like detuned saws, a bit of noise, then ran through delay and a LP filter with a healthy amount of Q. massive can do that easily.

There might be more I'm not hearing but I was able to pretty much recreate it like that.

Cobweb Heart
Mar 31, 2010

I need you to wear this. I need you to wear this all the time. It's office policy.
This one should be pretty easy: It's a screaming sort of guitar sound that Anaal Nathrakh do occasionally, around 0:32. I'm very new to guitar and my ear isn't good enough to tell what they're doing to get that warping, crying effect. Is it a wah-pedal? Are they just bending a note under a ton of distortion?

Cobweb Heart fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Jul 29, 2012

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

slardel posted:

Sounds like detuned saws, a bit of noise, then ran through delay and a LP filter with a healthy amount of Q. massive can do that easily.

There might be more I'm not hearing but I was able to pretty much recreate it like that.
Cool, thanks. I'll try.

Deacon of Delicious
Aug 20, 2007

I bet the twist ending is Dracula's dick-babies

Laserjet 4P posted:

Good news everyone; the images in the topicstart have been reuploaded again. I still have to find an alternative that does not suck for the mp3s.

Great! Thanks for all your effort.

Cobweb Heart
Mar 31, 2010

I need you to wear this. I need you to wear this all the time. It's office policy.
Okay, sorry for continuing to ask for weird-rear end sounds, but Igorrr twists some samples of a person groaning around 2:10 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpGaIIziBqE

Anyone want to take a stab at what he may have done to construct something like that? I suspect it's some sort of granulizing thing, probably the same thing he uses for all the bizarre timestretching and stuttering in this song. I know vaguely how to go about doing something like this, but what's the most efficient tool one can use to make these sorts of sounds?

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


How can I recreate the drums on this Peter Gabriel song? I know he used a LinnDrum a LOT, but I'm also hearing a poo poo load of compression, gated reverb and a single time delay at a 16th note? Here's my reference:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdkLLohOy3M

Beleg
Oct 21, 2004

Cobweb Heart posted:

This one should be pretty easy: It's a screaming sort of guitar sound that Anaal Nathrakh do occasionally, around 0:32. I'm very new to guitar and my ear isn't good enough to tell what they're doing to get that warping, crying effect. Is it a wah-pedal? Are they just bending a note under a ton of distortion?

havent played anything heavy for years, but it sounds like he's playing at least two notes and bending up one of them. the guitar signal probably goes through some modulation, either chorus/phaser and a nice wah.

it's also probably double-tracked on different amps, and that's why you also get that nice chorus-y effect going on. wouldn't be too difficult to re-create if you have Guitar Rig or Amplitube.

Barn Door
Mar 6, 2007

shut the fuck up charles

Beleg posted:

havent played anything heavy for years, but it sounds like he's playing at least two notes and bending up one of them.

Precisely. Strum only G and B strings. Bend G string up on fret 15 and hold B string steady on fret 13. Heavy distortion.

Very similar to the opening guitar riff of Tool - Sober, so this should help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ojjDNR0Erg

an skeleton
Apr 23, 2012

scowls @ u
Sorry if this is somewhat basic or whatever, but how do you recreate the sound of the bass in Deadmau5' One Trick Pony in a program like Reaktor Photone?

Professor Latency
Mar 30, 2011

I would love to know how to make these sort of minimalist drums that start in this song at about 1:43 http://youtu.be/qSZRBuAhW70?t=1m43s
The little pops and glitchy sounds are what I'm talking about. Many minimalist artists use these same kind of beats and they fascinate me.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

How do you create synth choirs using subtractive synthesis? I'm using a Korg R3 and I'm trying to get a simple "Ahh" sound.

Barn Door
Mar 6, 2007

shut the fuck up charles

Professor Latency posted:

I would love to know how to make these sort of minimalist drums that start in this song at about 1:43 http://youtu.be/qSZRBuAhW70?t=1m43s
The little pops and glitchy sounds are what I'm talking about. Many minimalist artists use these same kind of beats and they fascinate me.

Luckily for you it is much easier to create minimalist drums than huge, space-filling massive drums.

I personally like Boards of Canada's method the best:

quote:

"Sandison: We made a lot of our percussion sounds by just wandering about with a portable DAT, denting things with drumsticks. On some tracks, we get people we know to record their voices making weird phonetic sounds. We chop it all up and use the plosive and fricative sounds for percussion and so on. All of the percussion on "An Eagle in Your Mind" was done with my girlfriend's voice."

MUFFlNS
Mar 7, 2004

I think that this is the right thread for my question, apologies if it isn't however. I was basically wondering if anybody could suggest a piece of software (preferably free or cheap) that would be good for messing with mp3s?

By messing with mp3s I'm referring to editing in various ways (reversing the song, slowing it down, cutting out parts and trying to blend together into a loop etc) and uh, fiddling with it? When I say fiddling the best example that I can think of is similar to how Korg's Kaoss Pad works, where you can do all sorts of weird things to music/samples as they play through it. This video here is a good example of what I'm talking about I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnYaBMzMRA

Is there any software that can do that, and is preferably very simple to use? I don't expect there to be anything with an interface similar to a Kaoss Pad or anything, but if I can accomplish the same things somehow, while also doing basic editing (speed, reverse, cutting and pasting) then that would be fantastic, and I'd be very grateful for any recommendations :)

WAFFLEHOUND
Apr 26, 2007
There's a chime in the middle of this which is an incredibly ubiquitous sound in the real world, but I haven't been able to find a sample of anywhere at all. I figure it's a digital sound made with cheap equipment and synthesizing it should be relatively simple, but I have no idea how to go about it.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



WAFFLEHOUND posted:

There's a chime in the middle of this which is an incredibly ubiquitous sound in the real world, but I haven't been able to find a sample of anywhere at all. I figure it's a digital sound made with cheap equipment and synthesizing it should be relatively simple, but I have no idea how to go about it.
An approximation can be made by having two sine wave oscillators, one pitched up an octave and using an amplitude envelope with everything set to zero, except decay around 2 seconds.

Maybe mess a bit with detune for a cheaper feel. If you can inject a slight impurity in the sinewaves otherwise (nudge it towards a square wave), that may be worth experimenting with as well.

real nap shit
Feb 2, 2008

I've tried to recreate or find the right sample to achieve this delayed atmospheric rainstick/shaker sound so many times, but I've never gotten it sounding quite right and I always end up giving up and scrapping it.

if anyone has any tips that would be awesome.

examples:
deadmau5 - strobe @ 2:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKi9Z-f6qX4

tnght - top floor @ 0:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQdZm4PqWGs

WAFFLEHOUND
Apr 26, 2007

Flipperwaldt posted:

An approximation can be made by having two sine wave oscillators, one pitched up an octave and using an amplitude envelope with everything set to zero, except decay around 2 seconds.

Maybe mess a bit with detune for a cheaper feel. If you can inject a slight impurity in the sinewaves otherwise (nudge it towards a square wave), that may be worth experimenting with as well.

I tried this and it ended up sounding pretty weird relative to what I was going for. :(

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



WAFFLEHOUND posted:

I tried this and it ended up sounding pretty weird relative to what I was going for. :(
Yeah, ok, that was a ballpark guess based on theory, so I had another go at it. Analysis of the original sound brings me to two rounded square waves, one at 800Hz and another at 2400Hz. So if you want to be nitpicky, the base note is between G and G# and the other part is between 19 and 20 semitones up or something. Technically.

In practice, that sounds like rear end in a musical context and you're better off playing a G and transposing the second oscillator the whole two octaves up. You can more or less approximate rounded square waves by using normal square waves and filtering a tad off the top afterwards.

So, start from an init patch and do this:
OSC1: SQUARE WAVE, 0dB
OSC2: SQUARE WAVE, -6dB, +24 semitones
AEG: A: 0; D: 2sec; S: 0: R: 0
FILT: F: ~4000Hz; R: 0

I'm getting things like this. (squares, filtered squares, sines, original)

I'm not sure what gives you "weird" results, but without further clues as to what you're doing, what tools you're using or what you're going for, I can only guess, obviously.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.

slardel posted:

I've tried to recreate or find the right sample to achieve this delayed atmospheric rainstick/shaker sound so many times, but I've never gotten it sounding quite right and I always end up giving up and scrapping it.

if anyone has any tips that would be awesome.

examples:
deadmau5 - strobe @ 2:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKi9Z-f6qX4

tnght - top floor @ 0:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQdZm4PqWGs

Really interested in this as well.

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WAFFLEHOUND
Apr 26, 2007

Flipperwaldt posted:

Yeah, ok, that was a ballpark guess based on theory, so I had another go at it. Analysis of the original sound brings me to two rounded square waves, one at 800Hz and another at 2400Hz. So if you want to be nitpicky, the base note is between G and G# and the other part is between 19 and 20 semitones up or something. Technically.

In practice, that sounds like rear end in a musical context and you're better off playing a G and transposing the second oscillator the whole two octaves up. You can more or less approximate rounded square waves by using normal square waves and filtering a tad off the top afterwards.

So, start from an init patch and do this:
OSC1: SQUARE WAVE, 0dB
OSC2: SQUARE WAVE, -6dB, +24 semitones
AEG: A: 0; D: 2sec; S: 0: R: 0
FILT: F: ~4000Hz; R: 0

I'm getting things like this. (squares, filtered squares, sines, original)

I'm not sure what gives you "weird" results, but without further clues as to what you're doing, what tools you're using or what you're going for, I can only guess, obviously.

Listening to them side by side, I think the thing that I'm hearing is more high-end on the samples you've made. Still, wow, that's an amazing analysis.

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