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ExcessBLarg! posted:Folks who buy retail-price carrier-branded Android devices are just making up the difference. Does anyone actually do this, though? It wouldn't have made a ton of sense before the "take a subsidised upgrade and lose your unlimited data" thing.
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Penguissimo posted:Does anyone actually do this, though?
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Sure, folks who want to get the hot new device every year and who have more money than sense (or desire to find a slightly cheaper flipped one on eBay). Ooh, right. I think we have a few of those in the various Android threads on this very forum, now that you mention it.
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Jul 5, 2012 16:21
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Sure, folks who want to get the hot new device every year and who have more money than sense (or desire to find a slightly cheaper flipped one on eBay). I still might buy the droid fighter out of pocket, then flip my Maxx on one of my friends.
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Jul 5, 2012 19:32
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Why does my bill and my online usage only display data used in 1GB increments? [I just switched to a Share Everything plan because I am evil and it was cheaper] lament.cfg fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 20:02
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traveling midget posted:[I just switched to a Share Everything plan because I am evil and it was cheaper] Sorry I don't have an answer for you but I'm curious as to how switching to a Share Everything plan worked out being cheaper.
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yamdankee posted:Sorry I don't have an answer for you but I'm curious as to how switching to a Share Everything plan worked out being cheaper. $100/mo for 1400 Minutes + Unlimited text $30 + $9.99 for three lines with 2GB data each __________ $219.97 $80/mo for 6GB data $40/mo * 3 lines ______ $200 Because unlike everyone in this thread who only uses Google Chat and VOIP, we actually use our phones as phones. And given Verizon's reported 1-2GB/mo average, I think most of America is the same. The subset of people who 1) post online 2) about their cell phone plan are not the vast majority of Verizon subscribers and don't accurately represent most people's needs. lament.cfg fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 20:12
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traveling midget posted:$100/mo for 1400 Minutes + Unlimited text The share everything plans can be beneficial if you were using their most expensive plans prior. But did you mean $9.99 per line for SMS, because you counted it 3 times when you only had 1 additional line? The Shep fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 20:46
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Looks like he's just calculating it differently. Verizon says 1400 minutes is $90 for the first two lines plus $10 for the third line, and he seems to be calling it $70 + 3 x $10/line.
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Jul 5, 2012 21:00
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Yeah there are lots of families on 1400/2000 min plans with 2gb of data on multiple lines using averages of. 5-1gb of data per line per month that do indeed benefit from share everything. As a direct employee of vzw I personally don't believe its a great plan competitively speaking but some people just don't want to switch carriers and they are finding benefits in our new plans. I also don't drink the kool aid and I haven't for a long time now and even less-so now that they're starting to treat their employees like poo poo.
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Jul 5, 2012 22:05
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ModestMuse posted:I tried this with my mom, even porting the number she has had for 10+ years to GV, but when they go hiking on the Appalachian Trail she gets no data service, only 2g or whatever it was called, and has to use the "green" bubble to text my dad and a weird number shows up on his phone. And for that reason, I now have to port her number back to Verizon... This, Christ almighty the Google voice app. is a piece of poo poo. I'm fairly tech savy and it really took some using before I completely figured it out. I can't imagine my mom, dad or grandparents trying to use it.
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I moved my employee account to a 10GB SEP and saved the equivalent (as in, without my employee discount) of $90 per month. Granted, two of the people on my account use 2000+ minutes each, so I had them on their own old unlimited plan. I'm just trying to point out that the new plans don't necessarily suck for everyone. On any given day, I'd guess 50%+ of my customers save money on the new plans, or pay the exact same as before but gain the benefit of unlimited calling and free mobile hotspot.
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SpacedOut posted:I moved my employee account to a 10GB SEP and saved the equivalent (as in, without my employee discount) of $90 per month. Granted, two of the people on my account use 2000+ minutes each, so I had them on their own old unlimited plan. I'm just trying to point out that the new plans don't necessarily suck for everyone. I'd bet most people posting in this thread are on individual plans right now--20s, unmarried, no kids, etc--and for almost everyone in this demographic, they're worse, which is why everyone on the Internet is pissed, but it won't actually hurt Verizon and they can get away with it.
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I have smartphones for me and my wife, a dumphone for my mother in law, and a home phone connect. We both tether; I have the $30 unlimited tethering on my phone and the $20 2GB tethering plan on my wife's. I alone use 6-7GB/month of data including the tethering. My wife does maybe 1 GB. Taking into account my employee discount, if I had the 8GB data bucket my monthly bill would be maybe $2 less under the new plan. I'd just have no margin for more data use without getting slapped with an extra $15.
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Jul 6, 2012 05:13
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dammit verizon ship my phooooone!
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Has anyone had issues with the My Verizon app? I recently bought a Razr Maxx and installed 4.0.4 via the OTA update. I tried to use the My Verizon app ("My Verizon Mobile") and it says "A new version of My Verizon Mobile is available. PLease access the Marketplace to download the newest version." From there I can choose "Update" or "Cancel." The latter just quits the app, while the former brings me to the play market, but it doesn't give me an option to update it, the only button available is "Open." I tried disabling/enabling the app, and I did a factory reset after installing 4.0.4., so I'm not sure if something wrong or just general Android/Verizon wackiness.
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Apparently the My Verizon app doesn't work on alternate ROMs, either. At least not on CM9 rc1. It wants something called the Verizon Login Client, whatever that is.
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I am seeing the same as the other employees here.. It is saving a LOT of people money. If you were on a 2GB tiered plan already, its almost a no brainer. The people it screws are the single line customer and the 700/min no text people. Anyone bypassing SMS charges by using google voice is OF COURSE going to be the type if person who will whine on the internet. I think, however the data usage tiers were and still are ridculous, it should be double if not triple that. I also think they should have thrown a bone for those people who HAD unlmited data, and they really should give people a better deal if they have 4G...but I am just a monkey in the trenches.
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Mighty Horse posted:I think, however the data usage tiers were and still are ridculous, it should be double if not triple that.  .I mean, I understand that with this move Verizon is basically saying "ok, minutes don't matter any more, and the SMS gravy train is pulling into the terminal station so we better grab what we can while we can", but still. Most especially, the fact that a dumbphone will now cost $30 as an extra line on a family plan is pretty laughable.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Most especially, the fact that a dumbphone will now cost $30 as an extra line on a family plan is pretty laughable. I agree. Seems like vzw is just trying to lower the gap between what it costs to add a dumbphone as opposed to a smart phone so people start buying smart phones in order to start sucking down data and in most cases, triggering the thought of increasing pooled data.
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Knock $10 off the line access changes and double the data tiers and I could almost be convinced to jump on them as an individual account.
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If dumbphones were $10 and not $30 i would consider it.
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Don Lapre posted:If dumbphones were $10 and not $30 i would consider it. You mean like....existing plans before this ridiculous change? 
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Mighty Horse posted:...they really should give people a better deal if they have 4G... What they should do is put a new tower up downtown so that I can actually get 4G in my apartment that is literally dead center in a 4G-capable city. You'd think they'd not want me tethering off of 3G constantly, but oh well! As for dumb phones, I'd bet they're planning to completely phase them out, which is why they're not any cheaper on the new plans.
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So, apparently both the Incredible 4G and the SGSIII both have a notification that nags you to connect to wifi that you CANNOT DISMISS. Even if you don't have any wireless networks available to you. http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/06/yo-verizon-whats-with-this-ongoing-wi-fi-toggle-notification/ Verizon: We'll charge you up the rear end to use our network and then nag you whenever you actually use it!
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Holy poo poo, that's really annoying. I just tried this on the incredible 4. That would drive me nuts. Even if you turn off wifi, the notification is there with a strike through it. gently caress that.
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Jul 6, 2012 20:54
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And carriers can't understand why we root.
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So I just called verizon and inquired about the $30/mo unlimited mobile hotspot. Apparently it is still offered to unlimited data users. I was originally told it was being done away with on the 28th along with everything else. To my surprise I learned that it was still available. So I snagged it. Guy on the phone said he didn't now much longer it was going to be offered. So if you've been on the fence about getting a hotspot option, and you have unlimited data, take advantage.
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AlexDeGruven posted:And carriers can't understand why we root. Which, fyi, none of the previous SGSIII root methods apparently work on the Verizon model.
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It's frankly mindblowing how much of a poo poo sandwich the carrier situation is in the US.
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negativeneil posted:It's frankly mindblowing how much of a poo poo sandwich the carrier situation is in the US. But but but regulation is bad, you guys! 
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bull3964 posted:So, apparently both the Incredible 4G and the SGSIII both have a notification that nags you to connect to wifi that you CANNOT DISMISS. Even if you don't have any wireless networks available to you. This is still better than sprint, which now h as software installed on all smartphones that "self manages" you connections. Meaning it turns in WiFi and 4G wimax as much as possible to offset the data. It can be turned off, and you do have to click "yes enable," but its at the beginning setup when everyone just hits "yes agree" a million times so mmost people accidentally click it.
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AlexDeGruven posted:And carriers can't understand why we root. This is definitely a market that it pays to pay attention to.
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Cojawfee posted:Verizon is selling JB Gnexes? It's hyperbole. They're not selling any of the stuff he mentioned--the only people using JB Galaxy Nexus phones on unlimited LTE are people are have hacked roms on old plans.
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 Man, these guys are just so slimy. However I'm too satisfied with my price of service, coverage, and new Galaxy to switch carriers. Maybe in the long term staying with Verizon is a devil's pact, but right now it's too comfortable. clamiam45 fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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clamiam45 posted:
Any back storey on this please?
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mrchina posted:Any back storey on this please? That is what happens, according to xda, when you overwrite boot.img. In other words Samsung is telegraphing very clearly that Verizon is the reason the boot.img file is signed.
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Mighty Horse posted:Anyone bypassing SMS charges by using google voice is OF COURSE going to be the type if person who will whine on the internet. Anyone who works where you do is OF COURSE going to whine on the internet about people whining on the internet.  Be quiet, please.
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Thermopyle posted:Anyone who works where you do is OF COURSE going to whine on the internet about people whining on the internet. I think his point is that the number of people using Google voice for text messaging is very little, and those that actually do probably participate in some kind of online message board involving wireless services. Imagine 108 million people in a room and then maybe 10 thousand(this is a completely made up number but you get my point) walked out. Nobody will give a poo poo, especially not the person who owns the room. I also work for verizon and I could give two shits about my employer, but his points are valid. So...be quiet please.
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