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Noni posted:If you don't want to go back and forth in 3 rounds of polite waving, here's a tip: Point, rather than wave, when you're telling someone to go. If you wave, everyone's first instinct is to wave back like trained monkeys. If you point, they just go. Please don't do this. Pointing is a turn signal. Let's not mix up the meaning of that in the mind of the average driver, okay? "But officer, the guy on the bike was pointing left as he approached the intersection. I thought he was sending me across; how was I supposed to know he was planning to keep going and make a left turn?" (Scrapes biker's guts off road)
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Noni posted:If you don't want to go back and forth in 3 rounds of polite waving, here's a tip: Point, rather than wave, when you're telling someone to go. If you wave, everyone's first instinct is to wave back like trained monkeys. If you point, they just go.  I have never had someone mistake my "go ahead" wave for a "hi! :iamafag:" wave.And also what Powered Descent said. Wave your hand in the direction of their turn, or in a "c'mere" motion if they are heading towards you. It does not look like a hello wave.
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alnilam posted:
I'll go one further than the two of you and say enough with all the loving waving through. There are pretty well-established rules in every situation about who yields and who should just go. Making an assessment of every situation, or thinking you're being nice by letting someone else go, just slows everything down for everyone. There are state statutes that are a little different, and some states have more comprehensive rules about things like "blocking the box" or whatnot, but I'm pretty sure that in every state that I've driven in, the "solution" to the given example is that the car turning left yields to the car going straight. My personal most hated wave-through is when I am stopped to turn left onto a road and someone else is driving along the road and turning left onto the road I am on. It is not acceptable to stop to the right of me and wave me in before turning and it usually takes longer to do the whole wave-recognize-go than it would have been to just drive past them and turn left. (The exception to this, that I do, and appreciate others doing, is when you let someone in in front of you in a heavy traffic situation where they aren't getting in until someone lets them in. )
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I'm having a tough time with picking the right bulbs for my home office. It's downstairs and doesn't get a ton of natural light (just one window). Now I plan to go with CFL bulbs but I'm not sure which "temperature" I should be going with. I currently use the standard 2700K which is fine I guess, but I'm wondering if I should be going with something that is higher such as a "Cool White" that wouldn't be as yellow. Does anyone know anything about home lighting? Am I overthinking this and should just go with the normal warm light bulbs?
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I've never, ever heard of anyone other than the car that gets to the intersection first having the right of way. I'm in California now and have also lived in Virginia.
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Jul 6, 2012 16:51
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Niwrad posted:I'm having a tough time with picking the right bulbs for my home office. It's downstairs and doesn't get a ton of natural light (just one window). Now I plan to go with CFL bulbs but I'm not sure which "temperature" I should be going with. I currently use the standard 2700K which is fine I guess, but I'm wondering if I should be going with something that is higher such as a "Cool White" that wouldn't be as yellow. Unless you are doing something that requires color matching (creating or looking at artwork, for instance), then I don't think there is any need to get anything other than the cheapest bulb. And if you did get a different bulb for that, it wouldn't be cool white. There is also some evidence it is unhealthy to your eyes or your mental state. I am not saying it is, but there is evidence. Fork of Unknown Origins posted:I've never, ever heard of anyone other than the car that gets to the intersection first having the right of way. I'm in California now and have also lived in Virginia. edit: Nope. I'm wrong, you're right. I also am not familiar with any place where the first car yields ever. I missed the question and it doesn't matter where anyone is turning in that example. I just assumed it was about when both cars get there at the same time, since that is what usually confuses people. vv Very Strange Things fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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Very Strange Things posted:The example was for when two cars arrive at the same time. Manslaughter posted:Who has right of way, if the blue car arrived at the intersection first?
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I've always been of the mind that whoever gets there 1st goes 1st but if 2 arrive at the same time, the pink one or whoever's not turning left goes 1st. I think they said this in my driver's-ed but they also said something about 2 cars getting there at the same time, "whoever's on the right" has right of way and I don't even know what that means when you're facing each other. Also if you are turning left, got there 1st, but it was very close who got there 1st, you should probably yield to the non-left-turner. I point people in the eyes then motion the direction they're wanting to go when I'm indicating my yieldness. edit: and if you're both going straight opposiing each other, does the law say to go one at a time? or can you both go at once? It irritates me like hell when people don't both go at once (most people do) when opposing each other in heavy traffic. Vin BioEthanol fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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Jul 6, 2012 17:02
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I've heard the pointing thing is more effective as well because it's more authoritative and direct. Also, whoever arrives first gets to go first regardless. I think at least a full second of arriving first is a distinction (assuming that neither of you only do rolling stops or generally not bad drivers). If it's too close to call, then it's safer for the going-straight driver to go first. I also generally find that old people and soccer moms are bad at going first when it's clearly their right-of-way.
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Jul 6, 2012 17:09
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I was always under the impression that left-turners (in right-side driving countries) are the lowest priority for right of way.
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Jul 6, 2012 17:18
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Wagonburner posted:edit: and if you're both going straight opposiing each other, does the law say to go one at a time? or can you both go at once? It irritates me like hell when people don't both go at once (most people do) when opposing each other in heavy traffic. I think you can both go at once, but inevitably you end up with someone who forgets to use a turn signal and you both go at once and they turn in front of you and honk. Both going at once also can lead to confusion if there's a line at both sides and it causes confusion with the "arrived first" rule, rather than a back and forth where it's easy to tell who's turn it is to go.
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Jul 6, 2012 19:00
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Here in CT it's CT DMV manual posted:Where vehicles or pedestrians are likely to meet one another and there are no signs or signals to regulate traffic, there are rules That last one is a good idea for sure.
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Jul 6, 2012 20:05
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Wedemeyer posted:The power button on my ipod touch is stuck. As in it's pressed down completely, while the black plastic part of the button is loose and can move up/down and back and forth. You can get the parts to replace it from places like ifixit but it's a huge pain in the rear end. I assume it's old and out of warranty so those are pretty much your options I think.
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Coffee Wolf posted:Here in CT it's Probably the main thing to remember with vehicle vs. vehicle right of way is that drivers staying in a lane pretty much always take priority over someone entering or crossing the lane. This applies to on-ramps, yields, left turns, traffic circles, lane changes, and passing, so just keeping that in mind should go far. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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Jul 6, 2012 22:23
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Coffee Wolf posted:Here in CT it's The catch here is that it's not a 4 way stop, making your 2nd bolded point not apply. It's actually a very busy intersection too, meaning that if you get a chance to go you loving go because you won't have another for a couple minutes. Getting a lot of conflicting opinions here. General consensus is that car Blue should go if he gets there first. I think I'll keep the turn straighter so I'll at least not be in front of car Pink if he decides to try his luck anyway.
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Manslaughter posted:Assume an intersection like this: 1 2 3 4 4 way intersection, Ah Ah Ah 
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First to the intersection always wins. It goes people without a stop sign > person who got there first > person going straight/right > person going left > if there is still a question, then it's person on the right wins, although this will end up being pretty rare. Jesus, I don't even drive anymore and remember this. Actual question : where the hell do you park at the White House? Like, let's say you're the dude who cuts the hedges in the back or some other job where you don't live on site, where do you park? Is there a lot behind the place that no-one photographs? It seems silly to make people park on the street. Where does the executive under-speechwriter park?
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I read once that they park nearby and that there's an underground tunnel that goes to the White House... I can't really remember many details but I think it was from a Tom Clancy novel and gently caress this is a useless comment, sorry.
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Xiahou Dun posted:... That's what you "remember" but the fact is that there's a lot of unwritten rules of the road because obviously the DMV training pamphlet would read like war and peace if the covered even some of the outlier situations. If some DMV manual has it then more power to ya but I have never seen specific cases like that described. I think they are more about "yielding" and once one person enters the intersection it is the others job to yield even if they think they should have gone first. Many times you'll come to an intersection like the one posted and find and entry, yet be the second to arrive and the other won't go. I don't think it's your job to wait until the other driver feels comfortable enough to actually go. Once you enter the intersection *first* they need to yield. (not legal advice) Of course this leads to many a drama for police and insurance companies but it's pretty much the way it is. Not to mention people who think that they got there first so they get to decide when it's safe for everyone to go. E: A good example of "yielding" would be if someone blows a stop sign and you enter the intersection before it "is clear" and broadside them, you may not get the ticket but you have a good chance of being found at fault insurance wise for not waiting until the intersection was clear before going. ChubbyEmoBabe fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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Those are entirely valid points : however, the question was about the written rules of the road, so I feel no particular need to talk about the unwritten ones. And yes, I suppose I could've phrased it in the sense of yielding, but it's more easily understood the other way and I was trying to be explicit. Because I was answering a question. The rest of your post is of, at best, questionable relevance. Yes, you should generally avoid hitting cars. I think most people would agree with that statement. It is unwritten, but there is also no explicit mention in the driving regulations about not firing automatic firearms into your roof, despite it obviously being less than desirable. He asked about who had right of way, and I'm very sorry that actually answering the question interfered with whatever loving voodoo logic you use to drive.
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^^^ I think the point was -- here's the rule, but don't expect everyone to follow it if you try to use it Yeah, at any traffic situation that is less than clear cut, assume the worst of people and beware of idiocy. About 40% of the time, people ignore the yield while I'm in roundabout and blow into where I would be if I carried speed. Of course I have to let them have their way. Which is why I don't believe in stuff like this: Dudebro posted:I've heard the pointing thing is more effective as well because it's more authoritative and direct. People are too retarded to understand things consistently. Just pay attention and be ready to react.
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Ooops... misunderstood a question.
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Jul 7, 2012 04:11
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Remember we are talking about at a stop sign where both people have to stop.
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I used to be able to hold my alcohol pretty well, up until about a month ago, when I drank too much beer and threw up my dinner. Now just thinking of alcohol makes me sick, and the little bit of bourbon I had earlier tonight has totally unsettled my stomach. Am I broken? Has anyone else had this problem? Edit: It's so bad right now that I'm breaking out in sweats. Raimundus fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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Jul 7, 2012 04:39
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No, it's pretty normal to feel that way about poo poo that has made you throw up before. I had a bad batch of ceviche like a year ago and it took me a long time to be able to eat it again.
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My dad lost the ability to drink without getting extremely ill when my brother was a baby, so it can happen. It might come back, it might not, it's not uncommon, though.
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Jul 7, 2012 04:48
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There's a famous case of an asian-american who was beaten to death in a hate crime. Anyone remember his name?
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Raimundus posted:I used to be able to hold my alcohol pretty well, up until about a month ago, when I drank too much beer and threw up my dinner. Now just thinking of alcohol makes me sick, and the little bit of bourbon I had earlier tonight has totally unsettled my stomach. If you used to regularly drink a lot of alcohol, and have had a sudden change in your alcohol tolerance, it might be a sign of serious liver damage. You might want to bring it up with a doctor.
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Xandu posted:There's a famous case of an asian-american who was beaten to death in a hate crime. Anyone remember his name? Vincent Chin?
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Gravity Pike posted:If you used to regularly drink a lot of alcohol, and have had a sudden change in your alcohol tolerance, it might be a sign of serious liver damage. You might want to bring it up with a doctor. I drank very occasionally, maybe once every two weeks at most, and had been drunk maybe twice or thrice before. Now I can't drink at all. Also, I'm only 22. It's a little early for cirrhosis. Raimundus fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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Raimundus posted:I drank very occasionally, maybe once every two weeks at most, and had been drunk maybe twice or thrice before. Now I can't drink at all. I believe it's possible to develop an intolerance to alcohol, or at least an allergy to some ingredients in alcoholic beverages, even if you were not intolerant before (this is apparently more common if you happen to be Asian). It could also be a symptom of something more serious, though. You could ask in the Goon Doctor, but a real doctor would probably be better. Also could just be this, though: An observer posted:No, it's pretty normal to feel that way about poo poo that has made you throw up before. I had a bad batch of ceviche like a year ago and it took me a long time to be able to eat it again. Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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Raimundus posted:I used to be able to hold my alcohol pretty well, up until about a month ago, when I drank too much beer and threw up my dinner. Now just thinking of alcohol makes me sick, and the little bit of bourbon I had earlier tonight has totally unsettled my stomach.  v pass the bombay sapphire...I'm not so old as to have forgotten that my mindset was very different in my 20's, nor am I naive enough to think you'll think the same or even similarly in 20 years. I did seem to take pleasure in drinking like a fish fairly often back then and even into my 30's but, in retrospect, it wasn't really the booze so much as the boozing atmosphere that was fun, and many of my friends managed to revel in the fun with somewhat less actual alcohol consumption than I (some with none at all, some with much more -- those harder drinkers are all dead or close enough to it by now.) Anyway, from where I'm standing now, I'm having a hard time understanding exactly why I wanted to drink much. I think, in a way, I was more broken then myself than you think you may be now, and it's a bit of an eye opener to read your post and think about it from various perspectives throughout the years. So yeah, thanks for that. Also, you can get cirrhosis and die from it even at your age if your liver is wimpy. Have you been tested for hepatitis C? I'm just kidding you're probably fine. (Or dying painflully and slowly  )
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Yep, that's it. Thanks
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randyest posted:Also, you can get cirrhosis and die from it even at your age if your liver is wimpy. Have you been tested for hepatitis C? I'm just kidding you're probably fine. (Or dying painflully and slowly Doc said I was healthy last year. I may mention this to her during my next physical, though.
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Being repulsed by alcohol long after a big spew session is quite common. And there's also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste_aversionquote:Humans might also develop aversions to certain types of alcohol because of vomiting during intoxication.
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OK, not thread worthy yet, but here goes. I kinda accidentally started a private investigation into a homicide in my small town. http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/story.aspx?id=752707 I feel really weird even doing something like this. Half of me says that I should just leave the cops to do their job, that this is something psychos do. I spent the past hour convincing myself I was crazy for even bothering to ask anyone, but I think my town has a serious problem on it's hands with this one, and I think independent effort is what it will take to crack the nut. But half of me can't help but think, "Someone has to know something." To be cold about it, I'm broke and there's $6,000 reward for meaningful information. To be human about it, a 26 year old man was murdered. I have actually started interviewing a few people related to the case (god that feels weird to say) and got some meaningful information to follow up on. I'm posting this here because, obviously, this is a probative effort, and not something that will go anywhere. But is there anyone here who knows about pointers for questioning people? I mean deep specifics, lying facial tics, ways to lead questions properly, dealing with people who have criminal histories and are fearful of exposure especially, as the victim is probably tied to the drug community, either negatively or positively. I'm not really sure if this is even the right place to do something like this. But it won't stop loving eating at me that someone who killed a man within a block of where I slept at the time, possibly passed right outside my bedroom window for that matter, is walking free and sleeping in a warm bed and isn't in jail for loving killing somebody. Any advice for dealing with this kind of situation would be helpful. Thanks for your patience.
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I'm trying to remember from where I've heard this anecdote, does anyone know? It goes a little something like this... A Russian peasant and his wife are walking on a dusty road in Tatar controlled Russia, when a Mongol warrior rides up to them and says: "Hello, friend. I'm going to rape your wife. I want you to hold my balls while I do it so they don't get dusty." Well, there's nothing the peasant can do to defend himself, so it happens, the Mongol rapes the wife and the peasant holds his balls. However, when the deed is done and the rapist rides off, the peasant starts laughing uncontrollably. "Why are you laughing? I was just raped!" says the wife. The peasant responds: "I did it! I made sure he got dust on his balls!"
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cucka posted:I think independent effort is what it will take to crack the nut. This never works in the real world. At best you will waste the police's time and at worst you will destroy evidence or somehow foul up their investigation for good. Whatever story you're thinking of that inspired you to consider this is fictional. If you really think you found something relevant to the case already, submit it to the police and then leave it alone, you're not going to stay one step ahead of them the whole way and catch the murderer yourself.
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 Beer betrayed me.Thanks for the help, guys.
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Raimundus posted:I drank very occasionally, maybe once every two weeks at most, and had been drunk maybe twice or thrice before. Now I can't drink at all. Are you Asian, by any chance?
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