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unleash the unicorn
Dec 23, 2004

If this boat were sinking, I'd give my life to save you. Only because I like you, for reasons and standards of my own. But I couldn't and wouldn't live for you.

HineyBorelTheorem posted:

this is a public service announcement

attention friends:

please cease using the word "performant"

because it's not a word

nobody used it so crisis averted I guess?

anyway, it is a real word, just not in english

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tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->
linguistic prescriptivists :rolleyes:

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
you can't just, like, make a new word, maaaan

0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
we are just discovering additional features of the language, slowly converging to the platonic ideal of english (hint: Its us english)

buttcoin smuggler
Jun 25, 2011
esperanto is the platonic ideal of language, imo

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
nope, its us english

Stay Safe
Sep 1, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Shaggar posted:

nope, its us english

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Shaggar posted:

nope, its us english

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

I flamed me own dad
you mean it's we english

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Ronald Raiden posted:

you mean it's we english

it's the english of us americans, not of you english

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

I flamed me own dad
I am actually an american :ssh:

All Hat
Jul 11, 2008

He that is without int among you, let him first cast a long

nope, its ch engrish

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
cool this thread still exists for complaining about programming poo poo i guess

i'm working on a dumb server thing for a game, and i'm using someone else's api library for it, and i'm weirded out because they used loving "Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike" for it

who the gently caress does that for code? and apparently since i'm "building upon" it, i also have to license my thing under CC-AN-NC-SA-gently caress-YOU? ugh

Toady
Jan 12, 2009

DO WHAT THE gently caress YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, December 2004

Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar <sam@hocevar.net>

Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified
copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long
as the name is changed.

DO WHAT THE gently caress YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION

0. You just DO WHAT THE gently caress YOU WANT TO.

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean

Fun Shoe

Anal Tributary posted:

cool this thread still exists for complaining about programming poo poo i guess

i'm working on a dumb server thing for a game, and i'm using someone else's api library for it, and i'm weirded out because they used loving "Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike" for it

who the gently caress does that for code? and apparently since i'm "building upon" it, i also have to license my thing under CC-AN-NC-SA-gently caress-YOU? ugh

LOL you just got trolled by some :spergin: who doesn't want anyone to make money off his library.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Anal Tributary posted:

cool this thread still exists for complaining about programming poo poo i guess

i'm working on a dumb server thing for a game, and i'm using someone else's api library for it, and i'm weirded out because they used loving "Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike" for it

who the gently caress does that for code? and apparently since i'm "building upon" it, i also have to license my thing under CC-AN-NC-SA-gently caress-YOU? ugh

keep using it until such time as you're actually making money off it then swap it out for something legal

0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Toady posted:

DO WHAT THE gently caress YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, December 2004

Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar <sam@hocevar.net>

Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified
copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long
as the name is changed.

DO WHAT THE gently caress YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION

0. You just DO WHAT THE gently caress YOU WANT TO.


dont use a stupid hipster license. just use MIT/BSD/Apache like a real person

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
basically don't fix the theoretical problem until it actually becomes a real problem because chances are it'll never become a real problem

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
rotor spotting

hi rotor

hope you're having a good day

i am not

but tomorrow is a new one

0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
pet a cat and maybe write a code and go to bed and tomorrow will start anew!

Toady
Jan 12, 2009

tinselt0wn posted:

dont use a stupid hipster license. just use MIT/BSD/Apache like a real person

you can just relicense WTFPL code under MIT/BSD/Apache

"do what the gently caress you want to" man

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Jonny 290 posted:

rotor spotting

hi rotor

hope you're having a good day

i am not

but tomorrow is a new one
been better, been worse. sry to hear abt ur bad day. this too shall pass, keep ur eyes on the prize and so forth.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!

64bit oracle client doesn't work on osx lion

perl on osx lion is 64bit because it's 2012 and it's a 64bit os

you can't use dbd::oracle on osx.

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

Anal Tributary posted:

who the gently caress does that for code? and apparently since i'm "building upon" it, i also have to license my thing under CC-AN-NC-SA-gently caress-YOU? ugh
is that really so different from gpl 3? but yeah like they said, nobody's going to pay you for your dumb game so what the gently caress do you care

Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

^^^ gpl lets you sell it, you just have to provide the source. NC means you can't even sell it

tef posted:

linguistic prescriptivists :rolleyes:

þe engliſh language muſt be kept ſacred

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

yaoi prophet posted:

^^^ gpl lets you sell it, you just have to provide the source. NC means you can't even sell it

thought gpl3 changed that?

not that it matters just use MIT licence for everything

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

in before "java owns --shagger" but based on the little bit of looking at them I've done, java's docs seem to be just so much loving better and more organized than pretty much everything else out there

the more you know

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
no exp but i hear apple dev docs are p. well done

Zombywuf
Mar 29, 2008

The man pages for std C are pretty cool.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
perldoc is good

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

Sniep posted:

no exp but i hear apple dev docs are p. well done

they actually are pretty nice to read, but the problem is that they're slow as gently caress to navigate in xcode (even with an ssd) and the actual organization could be better

Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

fidel sarcastro posted:

thought gpl3 changed that?

not that it matters just use MIT licence for everything

gpl3 means if i sell you a piece of hardware that runs code based on gpl code i can't use hardware restrictions to stop you from running custom code. tivo was the most famous example of this which is why this is called tivoization; they used the linux kernel but made it so that the tivo wouldn't run code not signed by them which means you can't actually run custom code on your tivo

also haskell libraries tend to have decent docs, it helps that the type system kind of forces you to write right code. the problem is that some libraries lack decent example code in favor of just documenting what every function does

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!

Jonny 290 posted:

perldoc is good

yeah it's really hard to beat cpan for this poo poo

"I want to use oauth to create an account on my web app from Facebook. Oh look, there's 3 free libraries that do this with simple commands and they're all obsessively documented and comparing why you'd use one vs the other."

i dunno, i want to try loving with ruby for a web app, but perl+cpan is so simple

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Sulk posted:

in before "java owns --shagger" but based on the little bit of looking at them I've done, java's docs seem to be just so much loving better and more organized than pretty much everything else out there

PHP

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Sulk posted:

in before "java owns --shagger" but based on the little bit of looking at them I've done, java's docs seem to be just so much loving better and more organized than pretty much everything else out there

the more you know

java being the best is all-encompassing:
best language
best libs
best frameworks
best build tool
best ide
best docs

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

Shaggar posted:

java being the best is all-encompassing:
best language
best libs
best frameworks
best build tool
best ide
best docs

the new eclipse 4.2 seems nice. for some reason i can't get SWT to work right though based on the little tutorial thing built in, might be a 4.2 thing or it might be an OS X issue, not sure

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Sulk posted:

the new eclipse 4.2 seems nice. for some reason i can't get SWT to work right though based on the little tutorial thing built in, might be a 4.2 thing or it might be an OS X issue, not sure
something something Mac os Linux

buttcoin smuggler
Jun 25, 2011

Shaggar posted:

java being the best is all-encompassing:
best language
best libs
best frameworks
best build tool
best ide
best docs

how does it feel to be wrong?

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Shaggar posted:

java being the best is all-encompassing:
best language
best libs
best frameworks
best build tool
best ide
best docs

I like c# esp since we stole all the good oss libs and frameworks from java and they work well w mvc

too bad vs is getting more and more hosed 2008 was the best one

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rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sulk posted:

the new eclipse 4.2 seems nice. for some reason i can't get SWT to work right though based on the little tutorial thing built in, might be a 4.2 thing or it might be an OS X issue, not sure

eclipse is poo poo made by the unholy combination of academics, open sores shitheads and IBM

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