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Golbez posted:If the regime is planning to use chemical weapons, that means they're planning to use them on Damascus, which... I mean, there would be no words for the scale of that. I'm not sure if they could deploy weapons in an effective manner right now. Saddam threw tons of nerve gas at Halabja for hours to get kill that many people. The Iraqi Army and Air Force had to bombard the city for hours. He could've gotten the same death count just by using artillery. With whole divisions defecting, it's going to impossible to keep that up.
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Nasrallah already talked about Syria, he talked about how Iran and Syria are part of the resistance, and other Arab states are serving the American-Israeli project in Syria to destroy the Mumanaa Axis that was so awesome in 2006, etc
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Weapons in the Gaza Strip from Syria, not the Saudis. Some of the Gulf prevented food, donations to Gaza, but Syria sent weapons. So yeah, he's intimately tying Bashar al-Assad to the resistance. He just name-dropped Assef Shawkat, too.
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Golbez posted:If the regime is planning to use chemical weapons, that means they're planning to use them on Damascus, which... I mean, there would be no words for the scale of that. 
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Xandu posted:So yeah, he's intimately tying Bashar al-Assad to the resistance. He just name-dropped Assef Shawkat, too. I guess you gotta dance with the one who brung ya, even if the dance floor is on fire.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:00
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The feed keeps cutting out, and I haven't been paying complete attention, and he's still talking but basically Nasrallah is saying something like the following. Bashar is the real problem for America and Israel. Syria has become a true military threat towards Israel, in all that entails. As a result, Israel saw this threat and became more concerned and scared, especially of its missiles. Syria is the bridge of the resistance, between Iran and Lebanon/Palestine. But it is more than that. Our missiles that can strike Haifa and Tel Aviv were produced in Syria, given to Lebanon. Syria was a pillar of the 2006 war. Not just in Lebanon, in the Gaza Strip. Israel today fears the Gaza Strip. How did these missles get to Gaza? From the Saudi regime? From the Egyptian regime? From Syria. Syria and their leaders has risked itself to help the Syrian and Palestinian resistance. All the other Arab regimes resisted. Who gave missiles to Hamas and Islamic Jihad? Who gave food to the people of Gaza? It was Syria. The people of Gaza know that. Syria is Bashar al-Assad, and Turkmani, and al-Shaar, and al-Rajhe. There is an American-Israeli project, to not allow a strong army in the region. For Israel's sake, only. Why did America disband the Iraqi army when it occupied Iraq? Maybe the Iraqi army could have followed a new political authority. This army, unfortunately, attacked Iran and Kuwait. But this Iraqi army did not follow the Americans, it was armed and trained by the Russians. After the 2006 war, America, the West, and the Arab states tried to exploit the problems in Syria. Prevented the Syrian government from engaging in dialogue. The Syrian opposition is prevented from dialogue. (I can't follow it anymore, but its basically like this) az jan jananam fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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az jan jananam posted:Nasrallah already talked about Syria, he talked about how Iran and Syria are part of the resistance, and other Arab states are serving the American-Israeli project in Syria to destroy the Mumanaa Axis that was so awesome in 2006, etc This region sounds so close to erupting into outright war any day.
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az jan jananam posted:Syria is the bridge of the resistance, between Iran and Lebanon/Palestine. But it is more than that. Our missiles that can strike Haifa and Tel Aviv were produced in Syria, given to Lebanon. Syria was a pillar of the 2006 war. I guess the future's going to suck for you, eh, Nasrallah? 
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Jul 18, 2012 20:09
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Nilbop posted:This region sounds so close to erupting into outright war any day. Welcome to the Middle East!
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Jul 18, 2012 20:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGIky5lrRMo Pretty big brigade in Aleppo.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:11
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SpaceMost posted:Is that why there are rumors Assad fled to that port city? I was wondering that. Individually and as rumors, these are disturbing; taken together, they are very frightening.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:18
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I have to say I'm surprised Israel-Iran-Syria-Lebanon hasn't flared up yet. A lot of people expected fisticuffs between those nations ever since dictatorships in the region started playing regime dominoes. I think perhaps Iran hasn't moved because it's nervous of its own populace which already tried a revolution once a couple of years ago, as well as having a multitude of problems domestically that prevents it from having any time for things outside its borders.
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 http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i3z5QAu3ACHNkfsu9EniK1gPSNKA?docId=CNG.8ff03667d439d786bccdcfdf3d0ab419.571 Tunisia president Marzouki was invited to pronounce a speech before the French National Assembly, the first time a foreign head of state does since 2006. The right wing UMP MPs of the former majority boycotted the speech. quote:"The question I am often asked is 'Has Tunisia fallen into the hands of Islamism? The answer is no, Tunisia has fallen into the hands of democracy," Marzouki said to applause from French lawmakers. quote:Marzouki, who met President Francois Hollande on Tuesday, was the first foreign leader to address the French assembly since 2006, as part of a three-day visit aimed at rebuilding Tunisia's ties with its former colonial master. Would have been awkward if former minister for foreign affairs Michele Alliot Marie had been reelected as MP and attended to the speech, under Sarkozy she proposed to lend French police forces to help Ben Ali's regime. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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Jul 18, 2012 20:22
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In regards to Iran, its more the government then it is the people who would support Assad. To Iranians there still is a massive riff between them and Arab's (as in a lot of Iranian's don't like Arab's). So going to go support a government the people don't like, while everyone is on tender hooks is a little too much. What will be curious is how this effects the Iranians in terms of starting their own revolution. The way how they view leadership and how to revolt is completely different then Arabic culture.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:24
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Sivias posted:Welcome to the Middle East! I know man, but seeing something like what's going on today throws it all into incredible relief; sometimes you just wonder how can all these nations with such active militaries with what seems to be constant aggravation on all sides avoid going into fullscale, catastrophic war?
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Jul 18, 2012 20:24
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I love Western hypocrisy regarding democracy in the Arab world. Yes I realize you voted for him, but you voted for the wrong guy.
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Nilbop posted:I know man, but seeing something like what's going on today throws it all into incredible relief; sometimes you just wonder how can all these nations with such active militaries with what seems to be constant aggravation on all sides avoid going into fullscale, catastrophic war? Welcome to the history of Western Europe, from around 800 to 1945.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:36
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Capt Murphy posted:I love Western hypocrisy regarding democracy in the Arab world. Yes I realize you voted for him, but you voted for the wrong guy. Well Hollande and the Socialist government invited him to speak before parliament, that's quite a mark of democratic respect, even though the right wingers are petty losers.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:38
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Alchenar posted:Welcome to the history of Western Europe, from around 800 to 1945. poo poo, Western Europe was a goddamn powder keg for at least 500 years prior to that, Rome was pretty much deep loving schizo by about 150 years into the Empire, and by the 4th century it was a coin toss on whether whatever rear end in a top hat was wearing the purple at the time would send an army North.
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Jul 18, 2012 20:56
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Don't forget the Balkans in the 90's! Good times
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Jul 18, 2012 20:59
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The Union posted:[..] http://www.theonion.com/articles/commanding-general-in-afghanistan-has-no-idea-how,28790/ I know Afhanistan is usually not considered part of the middle east but I don't know where else to post this. This is pretty unbelievable. Pieter Pan fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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Jul 18, 2012 21:10
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quote:This is pretty unbelievable. I'm going to assume this was just an unfortunate choice of words and you realize this is (admittedly excellent) satire.
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Pieter posted:http://www.theonion.com/articles/commanding-general-in-afghanistan-has-no-idea-how,28790/ You're...you're joking right? The Onion is a joke news organization. This is not a true story. Were you also amazed that Congress threatened to move out of DC unless they got a new Capitol building with a retractable roof?
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Pieter posted:http://www.theonion.com/articles/commanding-general-in-afghanistan-has-no-idea-how,28790/ You've heard of The Onion, right? Edit: Interesting typo on calling it "The Union", though...
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Pieter posted:This is pretty unbelievable. You're kidding, right? edit: dogpile!
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Hahahah holy poo poo.
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The Onion is satire, and a pretty good one at that.
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Pieter posted:http://www.theonion.com/articles/commanding-general-in-afghanistan-has-no-idea-how,28790/ The Onion is satire. Edit: Beaten like a red-headed stepchild.
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Jul 18, 2012 21:17
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Haha sorry for the derail. I assumed the worst. and am the stupidest man alive. Link showed up among "regular" news alerts on twitter and I didn't check it (not located in the US, not familiar with the onion).
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Jul 18, 2012 21:20
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Ah yes, that prestigious news organization The
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Jul 18, 2012 21:22
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It's a little odd Bashar is yet to appear in TV..
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Jul 18, 2012 21:36
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Maybe his top advisers always told him there's nothing to worry about, the rebels are being contained and they pose no threat. Go, hang out with your wife and don't worry about anything. The West is lying about the severity, everything is under cont- DEAD!
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Brown Moses posted:It's a little odd Bashar is yet to appear in TV.. He must be paranoid as gently caress right now.
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Brown Moses posted:It's a little odd Bashar is yet to appear in TV.. The rebels haven't taken the state media apparatus yet?
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keyframe posted:He must be paranoid as gently caress right now. e: \/ Bain destroying America; Bashar two-Face destroying Syria. unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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Jul 18, 2012 21:43
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SpaceMost posted:Yeah but you'd think he'd want to dispel rumours that he was hurt in the blast or was being treated for burns or whatever. Unless...  
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Events of the day aside, how frequent are his appearances usually?
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They're not that common. He's probably having his people check all the flower arrangements and chocolate boxes for bombs.
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