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Yeah sometimes when I cruising down the highway at 180 I think to myself I could get where I am going a lot faster at 240.
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It's all about how fast you can get from 0 to 60 once that stoplight turns green. But in all seriousness... as awesome as superchargers and turbos are, it's all about $$$. Sure you might be able to afford a sick twin turbo setup or a turbo/supercharger mix, but in the end you have to remember not only fuel costs but mechanical costs as well. First time you send a piston through the block, will you be able to afford a new one? Will you be able to afford and maintain that kind of power? Will you be able to afford keeping tires on the back? Will you be willing to tread ever-so-gently when it's pouring rain out? And if it's your daily, will you be able to keep up the frequent maintenance needed?
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I had an 05 GT which I loved, but I still owed money on it and the interest rate was murder because I bought the car when my credit was only so-so. I decided that I liked the new 2013 restyle so I picked one up last week after test driving it. The test drive went well -- the car has 3.73 gears in it and seemed peppy, but I wasn't driving a car I owned so I just kept it at normal speeds and acceleration. I buy the car and get it home. I've had it for about six days now and I gotta say... this is a car that has a great engine but a horrible transmission. The gear box is so awful at high RPM that I cant even begin to describe the feeling of dread that I get when driving it. Some of the time, the car doesn't like going into 3rd gear from second, and even worse are the times that the shifter gets deflected when shifting quickly out of second and into third, but because of the awful gearbox it goes back into first instead. Ouch. When the car does find 3rd, it takes longer than I'd like so I lose a bit of momentum. Despite the 100 HP difference between the cars, my 2005 GT just felt faster. The biggest reason was because of this gearbox. It's just junk. I'm stuck with the car now (it's really a beautiful car just the performance isn't quite what I want due to the shifting) for at least three years, so I'll probably get a short throw kit for it. Probably the MGW model. Frustrates me that I have to drop an extra $500 on this car before I can enjoy driving it. Oh well.
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I don't think this is a problem common to the transmission in our cars. My '11 shifts just fine still after 21k miles. The 2-3 is sometimes notchy and sometimes just refuses to get into gear without double-clutching, but that is a once-a-year rarity. I will say that I have missed more shifts in my last S2K and even my RX8 than I have with the Mustang, and the throw and gate seems very similar. I would highly recommend scheduling an appointment with your dealer to get that checked out. That is what your warranty is for -- that is not a common problem and something they will need to fix. I think an aftermarket shifter will just make things worse.
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Aug 1, 2012 04:10
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Devyl posted:It's all about how fast you can get from 0 to 60 once that stoplight turns green. Yeah. Probably. The secret is the morning after pill. Kids are expensive.
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optikalus posted:I don't think this is a problem common to the transmission in our cars. The Internet seems to disagree with you on this. As far as taking it to the dealer, the problem only is noticeable when going from second to third. Also third to fourth at higher RPM, fourth sometimes seems locked out. Other than that however I really just don't like the way the thing feels when I'm shifting it. It feels cheap to me. If a short throw is going to make me like the car better, I'm all for it. Right now it's an expensive outlay that I don't really enjoy driving. I keep thinking "man if this car shifted like my 05 it would be so much better." It nags at me. My other complaints with the car are pretty minor -- quality of the stock speakers is low but livable, exhaust note sounds pathetic, stuff like that. Stuff I can take measures to fix. The shifter replacement is aggravating because it's not a mod I'd normally make and the throw is actually short enough on the stock shifter, it just feels like crap. It's not a $500 purchase I would make in order to have the car be more personalized to me, it's a purchase I would make in order to make the car not suck. That's a pretty big distinction. I don't think taking the car to the dealer is going to do me any good especially on a warranty claim because I'm pretty sure that'll just end up being a pissing contest and I absolutely hate dealing with dealership service departments.
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Aug 1, 2012 15:39
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I thought the shifting problem on these is inside the transmission, not the linkage?
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roger wilco posted:The Internet seems to disagree with you on this. As far as taking it to the dealer, the problem only is noticeable when going from second to third. Also third to fourth at higher RPM, fourth sometimes seems locked out. Other than that however I really just don't like the way the thing feels when I'm shifting it. It feels cheap to me. If a short throw is going to make me like the car better, I'm all for it. Right now it's an expensive outlay that I don't really enjoy driving. I keep thinking "man if this car shifted like my 05 it would be so much better." It nags at me. My other complaints with the car are pretty minor -- quality of the stock speakers is low but livable, exhaust note sounds pathetic, stuff like that. Stuff I can take measures to fix. The shifter replacement is aggravating because it's not a mod I'd normally make and the throw is actually short enough on the stock shifter, it just feels like crap. It's not a $500 purchase I would make in order to have the car be more personalized to me, it's a purchase I would make in order to make the car not suck. That's a pretty big distinction. I don't think taking the car to the dealer is going to do me any good especially on a warranty claim because I'm pretty sure that'll just end up being a pissing contest and I absolutely hate dealing with dealership service departments. or could could continue to do what you've been doing so far, which is posting about it on the internet and not having anyone look into it, which I'm sure will solve your problem!
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Or you can upgrade to the GT500 and get a better rock grinder.
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Aug 1, 2012 21:27
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Or you could swap it for the automatic which has no issues and can live comfortably behind 800hp stock. 
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1 speed transmission is where it's at. I fully expect an all-electric version of the Mustang from Ford within the next 5-7 years.
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Devyl posted:1 speed transmission is where it's at. I fully expect an all-electric version of the Mustang from Ford within the next 5-7 years. (Soon)  Back in my day our torque curved! All over the place!
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Anyone have any guides on how to access rear suspension in a new edge mustang? I bought one with super stiff suspension in the back, and its adjustable, and its breaking my back and i need to get it to a softer setting  edit: previous owner cut up the trunk, im an idiot who didnt see that because of the sub box in the way. coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Aug 7, 2012 |
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Well, it's official: the 2015 will come with a 2.0 4 cylinder EcoBoost (currently used in the Focus ST) as an engine choice. The current 5.0 V8 is staying with the Mustang as well. Also, all 2015 models will now feature IRS.
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Devyl posted:Well, it's official: the 2015 will come with a 2.0 4 cylinder EcoBoost (currently used in the Focus ST) as an engine choice. The current 5.0 V8 is staying with the Mustang as well. Also, all 2015 models will now feature IRS. Source? I'm not seeing anything about this. Also, would the EcoBoost 4 cylinder replace the V6 option, or would there be three engine choices (not including the Cobra)?
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Sources: 1, 2, 3 As for whether or not the V6 stays an option... In my opinion, if the EcoBoost delivers as promised, I can see the V6 staying as a mid-range model. Have the 4 cylinder as a cheap entry-level model, keep the V6 as a mid-range choice, and let the V8 stay on as the GT model.
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I would bet this is a way to justify price increases on the V6 and V8. I assume that IRS will cost more, and they are likely to try to make the interior a bit nicer. Maybe the 4 banger takes the price point of the current V6, V6 around $30k, GT near $40k.
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They're probably going to try to match the genesis coupe, in price and power output.
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What's amazing to me is that an entry level four cylinder Mustang will be about the same horsepower as a V8 from 2000.
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Oh god, is this the part where I get to be crotchety and say my Mustang is one of the last of the Real Mustangs? I hope so!
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Oh god, is this the part where I get to be crotchety and say my Mustang is one of the last of the Real Mustangs? I hope so! By real do you mean a modern copy of a fastback generation 1? Or do you have a first generation mustang.
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Elephanthead posted:By real do you mean a modern copy of a fastback generation 1? Or do you have a first generation mustang. I think he means normal Mustangs with solid axles.
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Weinertron posted:I would bet this is a way to justify price increases on the V6 and V8. I assume that IRS will cost more, and they are likely to try to make the interior a bit nicer. Maybe the 4 banger takes the price point of the current V6, V6 around $30k, GT near $40k. Don't forget that the current generation Mustang cost more because they threw out the IRS in favor of a live axle in the final stages of design.
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On the surface I'm repulsed, but my heart loves this. http://youtu.be/2UXKXIgLBhc http://youtu.be/C7KpE_ag0Us
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frozenphil posted:On the surface I'm repulsed, but my heart loves this. I don't know what's more  the car or the comments
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Micromancer posted:I don't know what's more Everyone seems to be dogpiling him for being "bad for the environment" or whatever, but do they expect any car they see at a race track to be environmentally friendly? Somehow it's different because it's a diesel!!!
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It's because of, like, the black smoke and stuff. Normal cars don't make smoke, but diesels do. So that means diesels are bad. But seriously though, what's up with the newest thing being diesel builds? Seems everywhere I turn someone has built or is building a diesel for their car.
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Devyl posted:But seriously though, what's up with the newest thing being diesel builds? Seems everywhere I turn someone has built or is building a diesel for their car. B: Diesels are actually well suite to a variety of performance applications. Due to lovely old technology though, they got a bad rap with the general public as being rattly, rough-driving crapmobiles suited only for industrial and heavy-load applications were ride quality were second priority to sheer power and fuel efficiency. Modern ECU, turbo and transmission technology, though has created a combination that makes for some serious little monsters with the right tuning, especially in smaller displacement applications. There's a very good reason the FIA is doing its damnedest to write the Audi TDIs out of existence in the rulebook, yet they still continue to dominate at Le Mans 
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Some Random rear end in a top hat posted:There's a very good reason the FIA is doing its damnedest to write the Audi TDIs out of existence in the rulebook, yet they still continue to dominate at Le Mans Yeah well they did that for rotaries too, doesn't make them ideal for the average consumer. Now for a real derail, does that car have a stick or slushbox?
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I'd like to put a smokeshow into my Camaro 
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frozenphil posted:On the surface I'm repulsed, but my heart loves this. This is a new level of 'stang. You can call it 'Stang 2 
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Devyl posted:Sources: 1, 2, 3 If I were a betting man I'd say there's eventually going to be a boosted V6 at some point in the next few years with the V8 being angry old man option and the range topper. I'm not sure how much life V8s have, rumors are the C7 is going to be packing a very much downsized V8. It's kind of sad but the upcoming Fuel economy regulations are going to make it hard to sell lots of V8s.
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The only thing that keeps me from buying one is I need a 4 door. I am to fing old to be crawling in and out of back seats to beat my children. I would buy that orange 4 door boss 302 today if it was for sale.
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kronix posted:If I were a betting man I'd say there's eventually going to be a boosted V6 at some point in the next few years with the V8 being angry old man option and the range topper. I'm not sure how much life V8s have, rumors are the C7 is going to be packing a very much downsized V8. So basically the F150 lineup? Yeah, I can see that. Sad day, though. V6s (boosted or not) will never sound as cool as V8s.
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Dick Burglar posted:So basically the F150 lineup? Yeah, I can see that. Sad day, though. V6s (boosted or not) will never sound as cool as V8s. They have speakers to take care of that now. They put them right under the dash to make vroom vroom sounds.
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Elephanthead posted:The only thing that keeps me from buying one is I need a 4 door. I am to fing old to be crawling in and out of back seats to beat my children. I would buy that orange 4 door boss 302 today if it was for sale. Honestly, I wonder how viable it would be for Ford to basically do what Dodge did with the Charger/Challenger, but in reverse - design a sedan with as much parts commonality with the Mustang as possible, but don't call it a Mustang to avoid offending the purists. Call it a Falcon, even.
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Dick Burglar posted:So basically the F150 lineup? Yeah, I can see that. Sad day, though. V6s (boosted or not) will never sound as cool as V8s. Put it in "teenage hooligan" mode to harass the neighbors and attract high school girls, drop it to the default "adult professional" setting to drive into the parking garage at work so your boss doesn't know you're showing up an hour late when he stumbles out of his SLS AMG after his four-martini, two-stewardess breakfast.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Honestly, I wonder how viable it would be for Ford to basically do what Dodge did with the Charger/Challenger, but in reverse - design a sedan with as much parts commonality with the Mustang as possible, but don't call it a Mustang to avoid offending the purists. Call it a Falcon, even. I read in MT this month that they are doing exactly that with the next generation. However, it is going to be a Lincoln and compete with the ATS - which shares the next-gen Camaro platform.
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It seems there's conflicting reports whether the 2015 will get the 2.0 or a 2.3 liter ecoboost...from what I've read the 2.3 should be good for ~330HP http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-focus-rs.html 330 horsepower from a 4 banger is borderline ridiculous and I'm all for it. It's certainly going to produce more torque than the 3.7 and will likely drop a decent amount of weight and it's rumored to be going into the next Focus RS.
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kronix posted:It seems there's conflicting reports whether the 2015 will get the 2.0 or a 2.3 liter ecoboost...from what I've read the 2.3 should be good for ~330HP Is engine tech really so good that we can get 330HP out of a production 2.3 and expect full engine / turbo life? Numbers like that would make me afraid it would be really finicky about oil quality, have short change intervals and not be able to run on 91 if 93 octane wasn't available. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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