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bike is due for a service soon i suspect the shop owner is going to be yelling at me 'WHY WOULD YOU EVEN DO THAT' so for clarification, engine block access is too hard can i just pour the transmission fluid into my gas tank? thx
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:just get the seafoam didnt they figure out that it was just a 50/50 of acetone and ATF or something it works, yeah, im not saying it doesnt, but god drat that poo poo's steep
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Aug 10, 2012 15:53
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Jonny 290 posted:didnt they figure out that it was just a 50/50 of acetone and ATF or something ya but nobody ever got fired for buying the seafoam
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Aug 10, 2012 16:03
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I'm a strict programming textualist. The only documentation I need is the original code itself, not some activist wiki.
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Aug 10, 2012 16:31
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strict textualists would intepret a selection of code the same time every time. activists want to change the interpretation willy nilly. basically non-strict textualists are php developers
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Aug 10, 2012 16:33
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multigl posted:I'm a strict programming textualist. The only documentation I need is the original code itself, not some activist wiki. open source for life
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Aug 10, 2012 16:33
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Tiny Bug Child posted:people who like static typing are the software conservatives yeah, that's what the google guy is trying to say, but then he says a lot of things quote:I am a hardcore software liberal, bordering on (but not quite) being a liberal extremist. but quote:static types yield better toolchain support. This is undeniably true today, and I have made it my life's work to ensure that it is not true tomorrow. so start preparing for a PHP IDE that adds little red marks next to code it can't verify to not be meaningless without running it
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Aug 10, 2012 16:38
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a bunch of people with nothing better to do self-identifying as some dumbass programmer classification they made up
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Aug 10, 2012 16:42
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I am so very angry by this discussion about liberal vs. conservative in the context of code. 100% Serious.
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Aug 10, 2012 16:43
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socially liberal fiscally conservative
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Aug 10, 2012 16:48
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Win8 Hetro Experie posted:so start preparing for a PHP IDE that adds little red marks next to code it can't verify to not be meaningless without running it ugh that kind of thing is such trash
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Aug 10, 2012 16:48
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php devs don't like being reminded how wrong they are
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Aug 10, 2012 17:05
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personally i'm an objectivist-oriented programmer if an object is not in my inheritance tree, i do everything i can to refactor it out
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Aug 10, 2012 17:07
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vapid cutlery posted:php devs don't like being reminded how wrong they are it's more like, hey, why are you so worked up about what you're code's going to do. run it and find out if you care that much
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Aug 10, 2012 17:08
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guy a few houses down had a DONT TREAD ON ME flag flying from the mast he has his wireless-stealin' antenna on
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Aug 10, 2012 17:09
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Tiny Bug Child posted:it's more like, hey, why are you so worked up about what you're code's going to do. run it and find out if you care that much programming by coincidence - php tenet #1
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Aug 10, 2012 18:37
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tef posted:https://plus.google.com/110981030061712822816/posts/KaSKeg4vQtz quote:Many of the security engineers at Google happen to be fans of Ruby -- both as an intrinsically secure language, and also as a nice, expressive language for writing auditing scripts and other security analysis tools. It wound up being fairly easy for me to get security sign-off for using Ruby in production for my first project at Google. In contrast, it was almost career-endingly difficult for me to get the same sign-off from our highly conservative systems programmers. Shaggar is showing signs of programming conservatism?
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MononcQc posted:I am so very angry by this discussion about liberal vs. conservative in the context of code. 100% Serious.   
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Aug 10, 2012 19:56
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is there any way we can cram the word 'duck' onto one of those
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JawnV6 posted:is there any way we can cram the word 'duck' onto one of those mallard fillmore
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lol, tiny bug assistant just asked me why $thing->methodCall()['index'] wasn't working
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Aug 10, 2012 20:41
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Tiny Bug Child posted:lol, tiny bug assistant just asked me why $thing->methodCall()['index'] wasn't working i hope its because methodCall() doesn't return an array(?)
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Sweeper posted:i hope its because methodCall() doesn't return an array(?) ahh actually it's because *diablo tristram music starts playing* stay awhile, and listen
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Sweeper posted:i hope its because methodCall() doesn't return an array(?) no, it's because it does return an array. older versions of php don't support array indexing on function results.
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Aug 10, 2012 21:01
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tef posted:older versions of php don't support array indexing on function results. lol
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tef posted:no, it's because it does return an array. older versions of php don't support array indexing on function results. i knew it was going to be something like this, thats just terrible lol
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Aug 10, 2012 21:14
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Tiny Bug Child posted:it's more like, hey, why are you so worked up about what you're code's going to do. run it and find out if you care that much Tiny Bug Child was right
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run it once to test it. if nothing obvious is broken, ship it.
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tef posted:except he means 'run it in production' just because it's on the production server doesn't mean it has to be live. like, put it in some subdirectory with a big long name so you're sure no traffic is going to it and test it there. agile web engineering while maintaining security
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Aug 10, 2012 21:33
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or just do whatever. yesterday i was getting really frustrated at not being able to find a bug so i just edited a debug_print_backtrace() right into some live code so everyone who went to the join form saw a backtrace for a minute or two. (normally i wrap stuff like that in an "if ($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] == <my ip>)" but that would have been inconvenient in this case)
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I'm a left wing anarcho-syndicalist adjective-oriented establishmentarian yellow programmer
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tef posted:no, it's because it does return an array. older versions of php don't support array indexing on function results. iirc they JUST added that in like 5.4, which really speaks to how hosed up the parser is that it doesn't just recognize a function call as an expression or something
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well good coding practice says that you should always chec your function return values anyway, so assign it to a variable. idk i think i read that somewhere
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