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syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

lol babby's first snipe

# ? Aug 28, 2012 21:56

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# ? May 8, 2024 15:23

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Lex Kramer posted:

I never read this thread, just came here to ally oop, find out I'm in it

speaking of which

# ? Aug 28, 2012 22:22

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

Cocoa Crispies posted:

we use a business key as key (because riak) at work because it saves us some queries: we can ask for the record we want instead of querying to see if it exists

and now that leveldb has a bloom filter in riak 1.2 that might actually be more efficient than querying to see if it exists lol

well in sql business keys should still be keys, just not the unique identifier of the row

crud operations being performed on something as flimsy as a business key is dangerous

now i've never used riak but in couchdb each document gets a versioned uid on insert, and you can operate directly on data w/ that uid

# ? Aug 28, 2012 22:34

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

gucci void main posted:

javascript cookbook > definitive guide imo

# ? Aug 28, 2012 22:44

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

well in sql business keys should still be keys, just not the unique identifier of the row

crud operations being performed on something as flimsy as a business key is dangerous

now i've never used riak but in couchdb each document gets a versioned uid on insert, and you can operate directly on data w/ that uid

in our case the business key is for an append-only set; not formally treated as a g-set crdt but it is

if we do have parallel updates (to different nodes in the same datacenter or different datacenters) we can merge them because crdts let you do that

# ? Aug 28, 2012 22:46

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Jonny 290 please either be trolling or learn about normalisation and db design in general before you become "the previous guy" so popular in the coding horrors thread.

# ? Aug 29, 2012 00:31

Coffee Jones: Jul 4, 2004; 16 bit? Back when we was kids we only got a single bit on Christmas, as a treat
And we had to share it!

reading monocQc's book for the last few days :cool:

I'd forgotten it was written by someone who posted here.

# ? Aug 29, 2012 01:04

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

zombie wulf suck my fuc

# ? Aug 29, 2012 01:04

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

we have db people anyawys. im doing weekend poo poo so i get all the mistakes out without a paycheck being on the line

# ? Aug 29, 2012 01:05

Asshole Masonanie: Oct 27, 2009; by vyelkin

fidel sarcastro posted:

javascript cookbook > definitive guide imo

all the cookbooks are generally better than the long form detailed specs of the entire language

# ? Aug 29, 2012 01:16

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

tef posted:

-fdefer-type-errors

http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/DeferErrorsToRuntime

oh right I forgot this exists, it's gonna own

# ? Aug 29, 2012 01:34

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

Jonny 290 posted:

we have db people anyawys. im doing weekend poo poo so i get all the mistakes out without a paycheck being on the line

i say, get paid to learn db dogshit

# ? Aug 29, 2012 03:52

coaxmetal: Oct 21, 2010; I flamed me own dad

Coffee Jones posted:

reading monocQc's book for the last few days

I'd forgotten it was written by someone who posted here.

Oh yeah that reminds me I kinda want to try erlang sometime

# ? Aug 29, 2012 07:46

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

Jonny 290 posted:

we have db people anyawys. im doing weekend poo poo so i get all the mistakes out without a paycheck being on the line

have you considered python and sqlalchemy hope this helps

# ? Aug 29, 2012 08:03

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

Coffee Jones posted:

reading monocQc's book for the last few days

I'd forgotten it was written by someone who posted here.

nice he copied bonus

# ? Aug 29, 2012 08:06

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

more like banus if u ask me

# ? Aug 29, 2012 15:39

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

my stepdads beer posted:

have you considered python and sqlalchemy hope this helps

yes. also trepanning myself. not sure which way the wind will blow

# ? Aug 29, 2012 15:42

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

Jonny 290 posted:

yes. also trepanning myself. not sure which way the wind will blow

python isn't the worst. it's how i got my start back in the day.

but going perl -> python is like pulling teeth it does so many stupid things i hate hate hate

unfortunately perl is lacking support as a web platform so if you're looking to do something as a web project without paying for a vps you gotta do python/ruby for cheap hosting

# ? Aug 29, 2012 17:36

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

lets everyone talk about orms

what the deal with orms? they seem kind of stupid to me. what do you think? lets chat.

# ? Aug 29, 2012 17:43

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

rotor posted:

lets everyone talk about orms

what the deal with orms? they seem kind of stupid to me. what do you think? lets chat.

i haven't had a chance to really use one. concept seems solid when you've got objects with mappable relationships

# ? Aug 29, 2012 17:54

syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

rotor posted:

lets everyone talk about orms

what the deal with orms? they seem kind of stupid to me. what do you think? lets chat.

is this part of your observational comedy routine rotor?

# ? Aug 29, 2012 17:55

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

rotor posted:

lets everyone talk about orms

what the deal with orms? they seem kind of stupid to me. what do you think? lets chat.

let's. orms are dumb because there is no reliable way to turn a relational structure into an object-oriented one. everyone has probably read the vietnam of computer science already but it's good.

# ? Aug 29, 2012 17:55

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

lol lemme click on programming advice that ends in .aspx

# ? Aug 29, 2012 17:56

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

EVGA Longoria posted:

python isn't the worst. it's how i got my start back in the day.

but going perl -> python is like pulling teeth it does so many stupid things i hate hate hate

unfortunately perl is lacking support as a web platform so if you're looking to do something as a web project without paying for a vps you gotta do python/ruby for cheap hosting

surely most sites support cgi-bin :3:

# ? Aug 29, 2012 18:00

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

rotor posted:

lets everyone talk about orms

what the deal with orms? they seem kind of stupid to me. what do you think? lets chat.

they're great if performance doesn't matter and you are lazy, and your schema is trivial

# ? Aug 29, 2012 18:02

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

tef posted:

they're great if performance doesn't matter and you are lazy, and your schema is trivial

yeah this is sort of the sense i get. i do mostly front end work so ive never really worked with one but it seems this is true.

# ? Aug 29, 2012 18:22

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

orms are dumb. use a statement mapper instead

# ? Aug 29, 2012 18:29

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

code:

#!/usr/bin/perl
#use warnings;
#use strict;

thing of beauty right here

# ? Aug 29, 2012 18:45

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

In swedish, orm means snake.

# ? Aug 29, 2012 19:47

syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

Wheany posted:

In swedish, orm means snake.

byxa orm

# ? Aug 29, 2012 19:59

Rufus Ping: Dec 27, 2006; I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

JawnV6 posted:

code:
#!/usr/bin/perl
#use warnings;
#use strict;
thing of beauty right here

lol

# ? Aug 29, 2012 20:00

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

JawnV6 posted:

code:
#!/usr/bin/perl
#use warnings;
#use strict;
thing of beauty right here

yeah

# ? Aug 29, 2012 21:28

coaxmetal: Oct 21, 2010; I flamed me own dad

rotor posted:

lets everyone talk about orms

what the deal with orms? they seem kind of stupid to me. what do you think? lets chat.

I think orms are pretty cool because they make it easier to program stuff but at the cost of performance, so basically for webdev they are great, not sure about other things.

# ? Aug 29, 2012 21:32

NeoHentaiMaster: Jul 13, 2004; More well adjusted then you'd think.

EVGA Longoria posted:

unfortunately perl is lacking support as a web platform so if you're looking to do something as a web project without paying for a vps you gotta do python/ruby for cheap hosting

Write PSGI compatible applications that you can run under cgi to start and scale up to run as application server on a VPS when need it.

# ? Aug 30, 2012 05:43

Police Academy III: Nov 4, 2011

Tiny Bug Child posted:

let's. orms are dumb because there is no reliable way to turn a relational structure into an object-oriented one. everyone has probably read the vietnam of computer science already but it's good.

I like how he spends a whole page explaining what happened in vietnam, I might not have gotten his metaphor otherwise.

# ? Aug 30, 2012 06:00

Sweeper: Nov 29, 2007; The Joe Buck of Posting; Dinosaur Gum

ive come to really like ruby a lot lately, its... fun to use??

# ? Aug 30, 2012 07:03

het: Nov 14, 2002; A dark black past
is my most valued
possession

tef posted:

they're great if performance doesn't matter and you are lazy, and your schema is trivial

It always makes me happy when I think of a reply but don't post it but tef posts what I'm thinking

Sweeper posted:

ive come to really like ruby a lot lately, its... fun to use??

It definitely has its issues but it's really fun and makes you feel like a cool smart dude

# ? Aug 30, 2012 07:28

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

use core data

# ? Aug 30, 2012 08:21

Meiwaku: Jan 10, 2011; Fun for the whole family!

het posted:

it's really fun and makes you feel like a cool smart dude

Beer does that too, and it has a similar effect on code.

# ? Aug 30, 2012 09:41

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# ? May 8, 2024 15:23

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

NeoHentaiMaster posted:

Write PSGI compatible applications that you can run under cgi to start and scale up to run as application server on a VPS when need it.

always writing psgi compatible apps, but running them under cgi is shiiiiiiit

# ? Aug 30, 2012 13:49

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