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Dave Grool
Oct 21, 2008



Grimey Drawer
These dudes keep sending me stuff I haven't read yet but I think they're doing good work

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jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
no offense

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

good job taking a respectable photo for your profile

you need sound in the video and you still don't explain what your site will actually do or why anyone should care

statpedia's animated favicon is distracting and looks too much like the webpage loading animation so out of the corner of my eye i always think statpedia hasn't finished loading. this might be a good thing tho, since it makes me stay longer thinking maybe something useful or interesting is eventually going to load

Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

statpedia.org
Post Stats on Anything

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

good job taking a respectable photo for your profile

you need sound in the video and you still don't explain what your site will actually do or why anyone should care

statpedia's animated favicon is distracting and looks too much like the webpage loading animation so out of the corner of my eye i always think statpedia hasn't finished loading. this might be a good thing tho, since it makes me stay longer thinking maybe something useful or interesting is eventually going to load

updated video with audio: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1630905008/1746637091?token=c00eca36

nah
Mar 16, 2009

ian f*cken owns

Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

statpedia.org
Post Stats on Anything

mods namechange posted:

here I made a stat for you
http://statpedia.com/staging/week-21/index.php/publicdata/?sv=29&yv=120&xv=117&uid=1484&sid=71&statinfoid=21&title=Idiots%20on%20Kickstarter

btw your site is really broken and I spent way too long on that than I should have but that's probably why you need more money I guess? also I had to fudge the numbers and make the first one $1 instead of $0 because otherwise it wouldn't graph properly so excuse the slight lapse in realism

lol! Yeah there are kinks everywhere in that stat creator. It definitely needs a lot of work.

0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
please check google voice you have a message waiting for you

0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
if i give you 10,000 dollars will you waste my 30 minutes with as many awkward silences, uhms and likes as you do in the video?

god dammit if you give half a poo poo about your vision then sound like it

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

statpedia.org
Post Stats on Anything

mods namechange posted:

here I made a stat for you
http://statpedia.com/staging/week-21/index.php/publicdata/?sv=29&yv=120&xv=117&uid=1484&sid=71&statinfoid=21&title=Idiots%20on%20Kickstarter

btw your site is really broken and I spent way too long on that than I should have but that's probably why you need more money I guess? also I had to fudge the numbers and make the first one $1 instead of $0 because otherwise it wouldn't graph properly so excuse the slight lapse in realism

Here is an updated chart that seems a bit more informative: :)

http://statpedia.com/staging/week-2...n%20Kickstarter

I wrote down like 30 things on a bug report list just creating that stat. Yes that is one of many things that the funding is for.

Ian McLean fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Sep 16, 2012

Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

statpedia.org
Post Stats on Anything

0xB16B00B5 posted:

if i give you 10,000 dollars will you waste my 30 minutes with as many awkward silences, uhms and likes as you do in the video?

if you give half a poo poo about your vision then sound like it

I thought it was a very informative video. I know it isn't the greatest, and I will probably make another version. I am not the perfect movie maker bro; although I did download this movie editor program that said I can edit out all the ums. I am much more concerned that statpedia is providing a search engine for statistics.

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


Ian McLean posted:

although I did download this movie editor program that said I can edit out all the ums



mabbe it would be easier to just record a video where u dont say ummmmm

rather than downloading a video editor and figuring out how to use it




pre-plan iwis

horse_ebookmarklet
Oct 6, 2003

can I play too?
Ian, thanks for ignoring my earlier post. it was srs and I put a good 10 minutes into it.

You are clearly currently putting a ton of time and effort into this. What are you going to do with kickstarter funding that you aren't doing now?

Traditionally with startups you work and hope it pays out, but you are approaching this in the opposite way. Get a payout, then hope it works.

With something like the elevation dock, they needed funding to begin production. What are you going to do with this funding that you can't do now?


edit: also join a Toastmasters in your area. You need to remove things like verbal pauses (um, uh) if you want to actually sell this.

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
postmasters

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn
We could always help you make the video Ian.

CaptainMeatpants
Jun 1, 2010

here i've made a brief demo of how a good instructional video might play out for your project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAZvxmLfcQ

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn

CaptainMeatpants posted:

here i've made a brief demo of how a good instructional video might play out for your project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAZvxmLfcQ

lmao

who are the 19 dongslaves that 'disliked' that video?

CaptainMeatpants
Jun 1, 2010

probably the people it's been used on

Apocadall
Mar 25, 2010

Aren't you the guitarist for the feed dogs?

what is your goal? are you trying to create a global repository for statistical information? i can see how having all statistics available from a single site could be useful but your largest market for that sort of thing would be academia and sciences and not the average person. you should aim to create a system that is useful for those types, why should they go to your site for information? if you created a working system probably your best bet would be to try and get it used within a university? i have no idea how you would do this so you'll have to figure that one out, starting from that small area expand the site outward to other colleges/universities and use a login to only allow authorized users within those systems to change/adjust stats, so as to cut down on vandalism, keeping the site closed to academic communities would probably help as well.

how do you plan to even make money with this? ads for this sort of site is a terrible idea. starting with the universities you could do yearly subscriptions to the service, basically selling it as a license to use this product for a year. if you manage to get this far look into research grants to keep the system running because you'd actually be providing something useful.

also make it easy to pull information from for people to run calculations with so as stats change their programs can change as well

lol serious post because i have nothing better to do

Guido van Possum
Apr 7, 2012

by T. Finninho
all i hear is a small dog yapping

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Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

statpedia.org
Post Stats on Anything

horse_ebookmarklet posted:

Ian, thanks for ignoring my earlier post. it was srs and I put a good 10 minutes into it.

You are clearly currently putting a ton of time and effort into this. What are you going to do with kickstarter funding that you aren't doing now?

Traditionally with startups you work and hope it pays out, but you are approaching this in the opposite way. Get a payout, then hope it works.

With something like the elevation dock, they needed funding to begin production. What are you going to do with this funding that you can't do now?


edit: also join a Toastmasters in your area. You need to remove things like verbal pauses (um, uh) if you want to actually sell this.

dude... 10 dollars for platnum member status to find your earlier post. I just want to say thanks everyone for all your input.

Should i just flash the investor proposals to the entire yospos world? Okay... here you go... please don't flame me too hard on this one. I am open to allowing someone edit a new version of the investor presentation if they think it needs improvements somewhere. I think statpedia is legit. It needs money, so going different avenues is definitely something worthwhile. All the current requirements of funding were listed by the team. I entered myself into the budget, and that is it. The development team decided the rest:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lJQk9_cDo4v3IfAext3zMIqSKoMuuxyWkaph5bbEg_c/edit#slide=id.g4e9534a_0_31

As far as paid subscription goes, no way jose. This data is never going to get used if people have to pay to see it.

Universities do have various systems of uploading data into things. I remember hearing some sociology students speaking about a particular system they use. Data for particle accelerators is coming in all the time. I don't need to reinvent how all these systems currently being used gather the data. I just need to get the data if there is some way it can contribute to statpedia, or pull websites display mechanisms of the data for search so their beautiful stuff can be found.

There are standard database formats that most data is stored. The tricky part is interpreting it in ways that people can understand. This is where chart labs so wonderfully comes into play. Presenting the data in some useful mechanism is super important, but also being able to search for the data and see the actual numbers is nice. Take this for example: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd If this data was in statpedia, one could maybe use that data to show a graph of how often different types of particles are created.

What if I am a humanoid robot, and I want all these stats to make decisions. Maybe statpedia can help these robots. All the publicly posted data on statpedia should transfer into some standard format that any standard system out there can read. Need like the ultimate sql repository. There are so many varying database structures. An sql command prompt can be initially used to establish connections to varying databases. From here, tables can be called, and individuals and organizations can opt to host their database on statpedia allowing access to varying data for the search.

Some people may just want to render results from the the search. Some may prefer to use SQL to generate the tables for statpedia chart labs.

People want to be able to pull data, and turn it into meaningful stuff. I need one of those little import/export .sql buttons. Then, make a little window for someone to access to type in sql commands, then convert that stuff over into a matlab, octave, R type thing, go to the statistical design factory, then out it pops into search display. :)

I am trying to get this team spirit of fusion going for all these statistics. This is synergy stuff. Like serious synergy.

Free sql repository uploading place on statpedia. As long as everyone's total sql files are stored to its own unique id everything should be chill. Obviously we are going to know when people's and organizations sql files are being used within statpedia, and so we can create a YouTube type profit sharing system for all those stats. :)

With the sql connection thing, perhaps the users could fast forward and rewind this: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd

maybe change the angle around. if the entire sql database is right there within it i can do a search within statpedia for particle accelerator data, and pop, its in search. Maybe one could host it on their own website, and plug in the final result of something amazing, then link it to statpeida.

There are endless possibilities with statistics. Infinity does still exist I believe.


and then we optimize this thing: http://code.google.com/edu/parallel/mapreduce-tutorial.html eventually optimized it into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover's_algorithm for most optimal database and search performance. Thinking in terms of endless possibilities, I suppose even that last search algorithm can be improved. That is if we can answer this question... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=296126

Here is this guys answer: rrtucci

Posts: 6
I'll give you an analogy that might help you. Suppose you know a series that converges to a constant pi whose value you don't know a priori. Think of the Grover oracle as a subroutine that gives you only partial information about the series each time you call the subroutine. Your goal is to find the limit of the series. Grover's algorithm helps you to calculate that limit by calling the oracle fewer times than you would have to, classically.

By the way, here is a Matlab program ( http://qbnets.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/my-secret-life-as-a-captain-of-the-grovers-algorithm/ ) that I wrote of a more general version of Grover's algorithm(GA). This new version is more general in two important ways:

(1)It does not require that <s|t> be of small, where |s> is the starting state and |t> is the target state. (The original GA only works if <s|t> ~1/sqrt(N) )
(2)It converges with absolute certainty to the target state (The original GA converges only with a finite probability.)


Back to the data being imported into statpedia... if there was a way to use other already established systems that connect to a public sql window, that would work. Maybe statpedia could be allowed to crawl the database of entire systems collecting all the data for system input and format restructuring.

Otherwise, I could see there having to be all these custom database platforms linking externally into statpedia.

Good Stuff. Thanks again guys for all your input. It really means a lot.

Also, I am open to help with the video as mentioned in the previous comment. I would love to make a nice video.

Afal
Sep 4, 2012

"Tubular! Catch you on the flip side!"
there's a lot of words in that post :saddowns:

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

Ian McLean posted:

dude... 10 dollars for platnum member status to find your earlier post. I just want to say thanks everyone for all your input.

Should i just flash the investor proposals to the entire yospos world? Okay... here you go... please don't flame me too hard on this one. I am open to allowing someone edit a new version of the investor presentation if they think it needs improvements somewhere. I think statpedia is legit. It needs money, so going different avenues is definitely something worthwhile. All the current requirements of funding were listed by the team. I entered myself into the budget, and that is it. The development team decided the rest:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lJQk9_cDo4v3IfAext3zMIqSKoMuuxyWkaph5bbEg_c/edit#slide=id.g4e9534a_0_31

As far as paid subscription goes, no way jose. This data is never going to get used if people have to pay to see it.

Universities do have various systems of uploading data into things. I remember hearing some sociology students speaking about a particular system they use. Data for particle accelerators is coming in all the time. I don't need to reinvent how all these systems currently being used gather the data. I just need to get the data if there is some way it can contribute to statpedia, or pull websites display mechanisms of the data for search so their beautiful stuff can be found.

There are standard database formats that most data is stored. The tricky part is interpreting it in ways that people can understand. This is where chart labs so wonderfully comes into play. Presenting the data in some useful mechanism is super important, but also being able to search for the data and see the actual numbers is nice. Take this for example: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd If this data was in statpedia, one could maybe use that data to show a graph of how often different types of particles are created.

What if I am a humanoid robot, and I want all these stats to make decisions. Maybe statpedia can help these robots. All the publicly posted data on statpedia should transfer into some standard format that any standard system out there can read. Need like the ultimate sql repository. There are so many varying database structures. An sql command prompt can be initially used to establish connections to varying databases. From here, tables can be called, and individuals and organizations can opt to host their database on statpedia allowing access to varying data for the search.

Some people may just want to render results from the the search. Some may prefer to use SQL to generate the tables for statpedia chart labs.

People want to be able to pull data, and turn it into meaningful stuff. I need one of those little import/export .sql buttons. Then, make a little window for someone to access to type in sql commands, then convert that stuff over into a matlab, octave, R type thing, go to the statistical design factory, then out it pops into search display. :)

I am trying to get this team spirit of fusion going for all these statistics. This is synergy stuff. Like serious synergy.

Free sql repository uploading place on statpedia. As long as everyone's total sql files are stored to its own unique id everything should be chill. Obviously we are going to know when people's and organizations sql files are being used within statpedia, and so we can create a YouTube type profit sharing system for all those stats. :)

With the sql connection thing, perhaps the users could fast forward and rewind this: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd

maybe change the angle around. if the entire sql database is right there within it i can do a search within statpedia for particle accelerator data, and pop, its in search. Maybe one could host it on their own website, and plug in the final result of something amazing, then link it to statpeida.

There are endless possibilities with statistics. Infinity does still exist I believe.


and then we optimize this thing: http://code.google.com/edu/parallel/mapreduce-tutorial.html eventually optimized it into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover's_algorithm for most optimal database and search performance. Thinking in terms of endless possibilities, I suppose even that last search algorithm can be improved. That is if we can answer this question... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=296126

Here is this guys answer: rrtucci

Posts: 6
I'll give you an analogy that might help you. Suppose you know a series that converges to a constant pi whose value you don't know a priori. Think of the Grover oracle as a subroutine that gives you only partial information about the series each time you call the subroutine. Your goal is to find the limit of the series. Grover's algorithm helps you to calculate that limit by calling the oracle fewer times than you would have to, classically.

By the way, here is a Matlab program ( http://qbnets.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/my-secret-life-as-a-captain-of-the-grovers-algorithm/ ) that I wrote of a more general version of Grover's algorithm(GA). This new version is more general in two important ways:

(1)It does not require that <s|t> be of small, where |s> is the starting state and |t> is the target state. (The original GA only works if <s|t> ~1/sqrt(N) )
(2)It converges with absolute certainty to the target state (The original GA converges only with a finite probability.)


Back to the data being imported into statpedia... if there was a way to use other already established systems that connect to a public sql window, that would work. Maybe statpedia could be allowed to crawl the database of entire systems collecting all the data for system input and format restructuring.

Otherwise, I could see there having to be all these custom database platforms linking externally into statpedia.

Good Stuff. Thanks again guys for all your input. It really means a lot.

Also, I am open to help with the video as mentioned in the previous comment. I would love to make a nice video.

agreed

0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Ian McLean posted:

dude... 10 dollars for platnum member status to find your earlier post. I just want to say thanks everyone for all your input.

Should i just flash the investor proposals to the entire yospos world? Okay... here you go... please don't flame me too hard on this one. I am open to allowing someone edit a new version of the investor presentation if they think it needs improvements somewhere. I think statpedia is legit. It needs money, so going different avenues is definitely something worthwhile. All the current requirements of funding were listed by the team. I entered myself into the budget, and that is it. The development team decided the rest:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lJQk9_cDo4v3IfAext3zMIqSKoMuuxyWkaph5bbEg_c/edit#slide=id.g4e9534a_0_31

As far as paid subscription goes, no way jose. This data is never going to get used if people have to pay to see it.

Universities do have various systems of uploading data into things. I remember hearing some sociology students speaking about a particular system they use. Data for particle accelerators is coming in all the time. I don't need to reinvent how all these systems currently being used gather the data. I just need to get the data if there is some way it can contribute to statpedia, or pull websites display mechanisms of the data for search so their beautiful stuff can be found.

There are standard database formats that most data is stored. The tricky part is interpreting it in ways that people can understand. This is where chart labs so wonderfully comes into play. Presenting the data in some useful mechanism is super important, but also being able to search for the data and see the actual numbers is nice. Take this for example: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd If this data was in statpedia, one could maybe use that data to show a graph of how often different types of particles are created.

What if I am a humanoid robot, and I want all these stats to make decisions. Maybe statpedia can help these robots. All the publicly posted data on statpedia should transfer into some standard format that any standard system out there can read. Need like the ultimate sql repository. There are so many varying database structures. An sql command prompt can be initially used to establish connections to varying databases. From here, tables can be called, and individuals and organizations can opt to host their database on statpedia allowing access to varying data for the search.

Some people may just want to render results from the the search. Some may prefer to use SQL to generate the tables for statpedia chart labs.

People want to be able to pull data, and turn it into meaningful stuff. I need one of those little import/export .sql buttons. Then, make a little window for someone to access to type in sql commands, then convert that stuff over into a matlab, octave, R type thing, go to the statistical design factory, then out it pops into search display. :)

I am trying to get this team spirit of fusion going for all these statistics. This is synergy stuff. Like serious synergy.

Free sql repository uploading place on statpedia. As long as everyone's total sql files are stored to its own unique id everything should be chill. Obviously we are going to know when people's and organizations sql files are being used within statpedia, and so we can create a YouTube type profit sharing system for all those stats. :)

With the sql connection thing, perhaps the users could fast forward and rewind this: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd

maybe change the angle around. if the entire sql database is right there within it i can do a search within statpedia for particle accelerator data, and pop, its in search. Maybe one could host it on their own website, and plug in the final result of something amazing, then link it to statpeida.

There are endless possibilities with statistics. Infinity does still exist I believe.


and then we optimize this thing: http://code.google.com/edu/parallel/mapreduce-tutorial.html eventually optimized it into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover's_algorithm for most optimal database and search performance. Thinking in terms of endless possibilities, I suppose even that last search algorithm can be improved. That is if we can answer this question... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=296126

Here is this guys answer: rrtucci

Posts: 6
I'll give you an analogy that might help you. Suppose you know a series that converges to a constant pi whose value you don't know a priori. Think of the Grover oracle as a subroutine that gives you only partial information about the series each time you call the subroutine. Your goal is to find the limit of the series. Grover's algorithm helps you to calculate that limit by calling the oracle fewer times than you would have to, classically.

By the way, here is a Matlab program ( http://qbnets.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/my-secret-life-as-a-captain-of-the-grovers-algorithm/ ) that I wrote of a more general version of Grover's algorithm(GA). This new version is more general in two important ways:

(1)It does not require that <s|t> be of small, where |s> is the starting state and |t> is the target state. (The original GA only works if <s|t> ~1/sqrt(N) )
(2)It converges with absolute certainty to the target state (The original GA converges only with a finite probability.)


Back to the data being imported into statpedia... if there was a way to use other already established systems that connect to a public sql window, that would work. Maybe statpedia could be allowed to crawl the database of entire systems collecting all the data for system input and format restructuring.

Otherwise, I could see there having to be all these custom database platforms linking externally into statpedia.

Good Stuff. Thanks again guys for all your input. It really means a lot.

Also, I am open to help with the video as mentioned in the previous comment. I would love to make a nice video.

same

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





I'm a Friend of Rodney Nano

Ian McLean posted:

and then we optimize this thing: http://code.google.com/edu/parallel/mapreduce-tutorial.html eventually optimized it into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover's_algorithm for most optimal database and search performance. Thinking in terms of endless possibilities, I suppose even that last search algorithm can be improved. That is if we can answer this question... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=296126

Here is this guys answer: rrtucci

Posts: 6
I'll give you an analogy that might help you. Suppose you know a series that converges to a constant pi whose value you don't know a priori. Think of the Grover oracle as a subroutine that gives you only partial information about the series each time you call the subroutine. Your goal is to find the limit of the series. Grover's algorithm helps you to calculate that limit by calling the oracle fewer times than you would have to, classically.

By the way, here is a Matlab program ( http://qbnets.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/my-secret-life-as-a-captain-of-the-grovers-algorithm/ ) that I wrote of a more general version of Grover's algorithm(GA). This new version is more general in two important ways:

(1)It does not require that <s|t> be of small, where |s> is the starting state and |t> is the target state. (The original GA only works if <s|t> ~1/sqrt(N) )
(2)It converges with absolute certainty to the target state (The original GA converges only with a finite probability.)

sounds legit

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

I have read it all Ian and the single thing that sticks out the most is that you've paid :10bux: to see horse_ebookmarklet's previous post in this thread

ahmeni
May 1, 2005

It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.
Grimey Drawer
so people won't pay for stat results but you just paid $10 for the posting history of someone

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



ahmeni posted:

so people won't pay for stat results but you just paid $10 for the posting history of someone
That there is the difference between qualitative and quantitative data.

Locker Room Zubaz
Aug 8, 2006

:horse:
~*~THE SECRET OF THE MAGICAL CRYSTALS IS THAT I'M FUCKING TERRIBLE~*~

:horse:
i only read a little of that but you mentioned particle accelerators in there. You really think you are somehow going to be able to handle, not even parse, the terrabytes of information a single event contains? If so you should be working at CERN because thats amazing

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ian McLean posted:

dude... 10 dollars for platnum member status to find your earlier post. I just want to say thanks everyone for all your input.

Should i just flash the investor proposals to the entire yospos world? Okay... here you go... please don't flame me too hard on this one. I am open to allowing someone edit a new version of the investor presentation if they think it needs improvements somewhere. I think statpedia is legit. It needs money, so going different avenues is definitely something worthwhile. All the current requirements of funding were listed by the team. I entered myself into the budget, and that is it. The development team decided the rest:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lJQk9_cDo4v3IfAext3zMIqSKoMuuxyWkaph5bbEg_c/edit#slide=id.g4e9534a_0_31

As far as paid subscription goes, no way jose. This data is never going to get used if people have to pay to see it.

Universities do have various systems of uploading data into things. I remember hearing some sociology students speaking about a particular system they use. Data for particle accelerators is coming in all the time. I don't need to reinvent how all these systems currently being used gather the data. I just need to get the data if there is some way it can contribute to statpedia, or pull websites display mechanisms of the data for search so their beautiful stuff can be found.

There are standard database formats that most data is stored. The tricky part is interpreting it in ways that people can understand. This is where chart labs so wonderfully comes into play. Presenting the data in some useful mechanism is super important, but also being able to search for the data and see the actual numbers is nice. Take this for example: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd If this data was in statpedia, one could maybe use that data to show a graph of how often different types of particles are created.

What if I am a humanoid robot, and I want all these stats to make decisions. Maybe statpedia can help these robots. All the publicly posted data on statpedia should transfer into some standard format that any standard system out there can read. Need like the ultimate sql repository. There are so many varying database structures. An sql command prompt can be initially used to establish connections to varying databases. From here, tables can be called, and individuals and organizations can opt to host their database on statpedia allowing access to varying data for the search.

Some people may just want to render results from the the search. Some may prefer to use SQL to generate the tables for statpedia chart labs.

People want to be able to pull data, and turn it into meaningful stuff. I need one of those little import/export .sql buttons. Then, make a little window for someone to access to type in sql commands, then convert that stuff over into a matlab, octave, R type thing, go to the statistical design factory, then out it pops into search display. :)

I am trying to get this team spirit of fusion going for all these statistics. This is synergy stuff. Like serious synergy.

Free sql repository uploading place on statpedia. As long as everyone's total sql files are stored to its own unique id everything should be chill. Obviously we are going to know when people's and organizations sql files are being used within statpedia, and so we can create a YouTube type profit sharing system for all those stats. :)

With the sql connection thing, perhaps the users could fast forward and rewind this: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd

maybe change the angle around. if the entire sql database is right there within it i can do a search within statpedia for particle accelerator data, and pop, its in search. Maybe one could host it on their own website, and plug in the final result of something amazing, then link it to statpeida.

There are endless possibilities with statistics. Infinity does still exist I believe.


and then we optimize this thing: http://code.google.com/edu/parallel/mapreduce-tutorial.html eventually optimized it into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover's_algorithm for most optimal database and search performance. Thinking in terms of endless possibilities, I suppose even that last search algorithm can be improved. That is if we can answer this question... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=296126

Here is this guys answer: rrtucci

Posts: 6
I'll give you an analogy that might help you. Suppose you know a series that converges to a constant pi whose value you don't know a priori. Think of the Grover oracle as a subroutine that gives you only partial information about the series each time you call the subroutine. Your goal is to find the limit of the series. Grover's algorithm helps you to calculate that limit by calling the oracle fewer times than you would have to, classically.

By the way, here is a Matlab program ( http://qbnets.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/my-secret-life-as-a-captain-of-the-grovers-algorithm/ ) that I wrote of a more general version of Grover's algorithm(GA). This new version is more general in two important ways:

(1)It does not require that <s|t> be of small, where |s> is the starting state and |t> is the target state. (The original GA only works if <s|t> ~1/sqrt(N) )
(2)It converges with absolute certainty to the target state (The original GA converges only with a finite probability.)


Back to the data being imported into statpedia... if there was a way to use other already established systems that connect to a public sql window, that would work. Maybe statpedia could be allowed to crawl the database of entire systems collecting all the data for system input and format restructuring.

Otherwise, I could see there having to be all these custom database platforms linking externally into statpedia.

Good Stuff. Thanks again guys for all your input. It really means a lot.

Also, I am open to help with the video as mentioned in the previous comment. I would love to make a nice video.

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0xB16B00B5
Aug 24, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
ian i spent 100 dollars on app.net and you havent convinced me yet to give you even 10

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Ian McLean posted:

dude... 10 dollars for platnum member status to find your earlier post. I just want to say thanks everyone for all your input.

Should i just flash the investor proposals to the entire yospos world? Okay... here you go... please don't flame me too hard on this one. I am open to allowing someone edit a new version of the investor presentation if they think it needs improvements somewhere. I think statpedia is legit. It needs money, so going different avenues is definitely something worthwhile. All the current requirements of funding were listed by the team. I entered myself into the budget, and that is it. The development team decided the rest:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lJQk9_cDo4v3IfAext3zMIqSKoMuuxyWkaph5bbEg_c/edit#slide=id.g4e9534a_0_31

As far as paid subscription goes, no way jose. This data is never going to get used if people have to pay to see it.

Universities do have various systems of uploading data into things. I remember hearing some sociology students speaking about a particular system they use. Data for particle accelerators is coming in all the time. I don't need to reinvent how all these systems currently being used gather the data. I just need to get the data if there is some way it can contribute to statpedia, or pull websites display mechanisms of the data for search so their beautiful stuff can be found.

There are standard database formats that most data is stored. The tricky part is interpreting it in ways that people can understand. This is where chart labs so wonderfully comes into play. Presenting the data in some useful mechanism is super important, but also being able to search for the data and see the actual numbers is nice. Take this for example: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd If this data was in statpedia, one could maybe use that data to show a graph of how often different types of particles are created.

What if I am a humanoid robot, and I want all these stats to make decisions. Maybe statpedia can help these robots. All the publicly posted data on statpedia should transfer into some standard format that any standard system out there can read. Need like the ultimate sql repository. There are so many varying database structures. An sql command prompt can be initially used to establish connections to varying databases. From here, tables can be called, and individuals and organizations can opt to host their database on statpedia allowing access to varying data for the search.

Some people may just want to render results from the the search. Some may prefer to use SQL to generate the tables for statpedia chart labs.

People want to be able to pull data, and turn it into meaningful stuff. I need one of those little import/export .sql buttons. Then, make a little window for someone to access to type in sql commands, then convert that stuff over into a matlab, octave, R type thing, go to the statistical design factory, then out it pops into search display. :)

I am trying to get this team spirit of fusion going for all these statistics. This is synergy stuff. Like serious synergy.

Free sql repository uploading place on statpedia. As long as everyone's total sql files are stored to its own unique id everything should be chill. Obviously we are going to know when people's and organizations sql files are being used within statpedia, and so we can create a YouTube type profit sharing system for all those stats. :)

With the sql connection thing, perhaps the users could fast forward and rewind this: http://mcmstv.web.cern.ch/mcmstv/#evd

maybe change the angle around. if the entire sql database is right there within it i can do a search within statpedia for particle accelerator data, and pop, its in search. Maybe one could host it on their own website, and plug in the final result of something amazing, then link it to statpeida.

There are endless possibilities with statistics. Infinity does still exist I believe.


and then we optimize this thing: http://code.google.com/edu/parallel/mapreduce-tutorial.html eventually optimized it into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover's_algorithm for most optimal database and search performance. Thinking in terms of endless possibilities, I suppose even that last search algorithm can be improved. That is if we can answer this question... http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=296126

Here is this guys answer: rrtucci

Posts: 6
I'll give you an analogy that might help you. Suppose you know a series that converges to a constant pi whose value you don't know a priori. Think of the Grover oracle as a subroutine that gives you only partial information about the series each time you call the subroutine. Your goal is to find the limit of the series. Grover's algorithm helps you to calculate that limit by calling the oracle fewer times than you would have to, classically.

By the way, here is a Matlab program ( http://qbnets.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/my-secret-life-as-a-captain-of-the-grovers-algorithm/ ) that I wrote of a more general version of Grover's algorithm(GA). This new version is more general in two important ways:

(1)It does not require that <s|t> be of small, where |s> is the starting state and |t> is the target state. (The original GA only works if <s|t> ~1/sqrt(N) )
(2)It converges with absolute certainty to the target state (The original GA converges only with a finite probability.)


Back to the data being imported into statpedia... if there was a way to use other already established systems that connect to a public sql window, that would work. Maybe statpedia could be allowed to crawl the database of entire systems collecting all the data for system input and format restructuring.

Otherwise, I could see there having to be all these custom database platforms linking externally into statpedia.

Good Stuff. Thanks again guys for all your input. It really means a lot.

Also, I am open to help with the video as mentioned in the previous comment. I would love to make a nice video.

i just wanted to say you should try clicking the little question mark at the bottom left corner of someone's post and see what happens

Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

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I didn't read the earlier post because I didn't pay for the platinum member status. Although I am considering paying it just because I think this forum is legit.

I will probably read through this entire post a few times because there is a lot of good input.

Rufus Ping
Dec 27, 2006





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lads i think were witnessing the development of a new form of trolling

Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

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0xB16B00B5 posted:

ian i spent 100 dollars on app.net and you havent convinced me yet to give you even 10

OKAY! Maybe the next version of statpedia will help your convincing!

Anything else from what you have already suggested is also welcome.

I WILL MAKE ANOTHER VIDEO WITH VIGOR AND ENTHUSIASM BEYOND BELIEF! with no ums. I don't need toastmasters. I was going for a video of a calm mood to assuage any feeling anyone has that somehow statpedia is not good for the world. I think a collaborative search engine for stats is good, I think it is important that everyone knows I am a good person to make sure things are not being abused, and I sincerely think about how to compensate contributors. Actually I was not going for any mood... that is just how I naturally am, and that is what came out.

If you think making a video with more enthusiasm is what it is going to take, then that is what I will do.

If anything... kickstarter is free advertising for statpedia. How else would I be posting on this forum right now. :)

Ian McLean fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Sep 16, 2012

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

also ian i noticed some references to grover and grover's algorithm in your post. i don't know how you got in touch with him so quickly but DO NOT LISTEN TO GROVER

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010

Milkie Galore posted:

lads i think were witnessing the development of a new form of trolling
Poe's Troll, also known as TobleroneTrollangular

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Sagebrush posted:

also ian i noticed some references to grover and grover's algorithm in your post. i don't know how you got in touch with him so quickly but DO NOT LISTEN TO GROVER

10 if house is acceptable
20 then
30 build addition
40 goto 10

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

you forgot

25 power_outlets_count = power_outlets_count + 1

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BooLoo
Oct 18, 2010

SLAM TIME

Ian McLean posted:

I didn't read the earlier post because I didn't pay for the platinum member status. Although I am considering paying it just because I think this forum is legit.

if i buy you platinum will you make a stat just for me

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