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fourwood
Sep 9, 2001

Damn I'll bring them to their knees.

bub posted:

Find a rep in a store willing to switch you to the older plans as they are still available in the sales system as far as I know.

kstatix posted:

This is true. You can still set people up on the nationwide plans. Some reps will tell you they can't, but they're just dumb.

Well, I went in and was told the only thing they can do is $40 for 700 minutes and $40 for 300MB of data, with $15 for every 300MB over. I pretty regularly use ~350-400MB so... $80 with the threat of $95 still isn't really my idea of a good time. Ugh.

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Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
Edit, got one elsewhere

Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 17, 2012

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

texaholic posted:

Anyone picked up a Razr M? I have an HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I am looking to upgrade at full retail price this fall. I checked out the Razr M at a store the other day and was very impressed. I am really considering just buying the Razr M and then flipping it when the Razr HD/Maxx comes out if I decide I need the bigger HD screen. The Razr M really made the thunderbolt feel like a dinosaur of a phone.

Two of my friends just picked it up, and its fuckin awesome.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

I was helping my parents switch from their current plan to a Share Everything plan, and when selecting the option to change the plan at the next billing day it tells me that the first month will be pre-billed on their next bill. Does that mean they will not receive another bill for a couple of months, or is it going to keep pre-billing?

edit: Just figured it out...all cell phone bills are paid in advance. Did not know this until looking at my bill. I guess the next quest is, if I switch to my parents' plan, is there any way Verizon would reduce my ETF on my individual plan as I'm still staying with them just switching to a shared plan?

Auron fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Sep 17, 2012

ProjektorBoy
Jun 18, 2002

I FUCK LINEN IN MY SPARE TIME!
Grimey Drawer

Don Lapre posted:

Yea I just did this too. Transferred my upgrade from an unlimited account to a dumb phone and preordered. The preorder confirmation lists my unlimited line though. I think it's just how their system works though on preorders. Any ideas? Which line did it show for you in the preorder email? The line the upgrade came from or the one it was transferred to?

I was describing a hypothetical situation for myself. I haven't done any preorder, but there's a chance I may want to snag one more subsidized device instead of letting my subsidized upgrade just languish unused. I was hoping that an upgrade transfer could theoretically let my unlimited plan stay untouched.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

ProjektorBoy posted:

I was describing a hypothetical situation for myself. I haven't done any preorder, but there's a chance I may want to snag one more subsidized device instead of letting my subsidized upgrade just languish unused. I was hoping that an upgrade transfer could theoretically let my unlimited plan stay untouched.
I found out I was wrong actually, my method will kill your unlimited data.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004
Making any upgrades to your line will kill unlimited data, if you want to keep it buy used or unsubsidized.

Anyone not using their upgrade and want to get me an iPhone and have it switched to my number? I am loving impatient to wait 5 months for my upgrade.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
I ended up adding a 9.99 line instead of going unsubsidized.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Don Lapre posted:

I ended up adding a 9.99 line instead of going unsubsidized.
With that though you're paying $10 a month more over two years right? My line is pretty cheap as it is but adding an extra $10 a month doesn't seem worth it to me.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Lblitzer posted:

With that though you're paying $10 a month more over two years right? My line is pretty cheap as it is but adding an extra $10 a month doesn't seem worth it to me.

Cheaper than buying outright and it is like getting a 2 year interest free loan for the subsidy.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Lblitzer posted:

With that though you're paying $10 a month more over two years right? My line is pretty cheap as it is but adding an extra $10 a month doesn't seem worth it to me.
32gb phone is $327 after tax plus $240 for the line and $25 activation is $592. No contract price is $750.

Magic Underwear
May 14, 2003


Young Orc
Don't you pay a pretty large amount of taxes on the line itself?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Magic Underwear posted:

Don't you pay a pretty large amount of taxes on the line itself?

When we added our other line it was only a couple dollars extra in fees and taxes.

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

Most people report about ~$16/month after taxes and "fees." It's not worth the hassle; you're better off buying someone's new-in-box unwanted upgrade off of craigslist and not loving with your account.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

kbar posted:

Most people report about ~$16/month after taxes and "fees." It's not worth the hassle; you're better off buying someone's new-in-box unwanted upgrade off of craigslist and not loving with your account.

Maybe somewhere. When we added my mom out bill went from $136 to $147.

edit: is it possible to get a sim from verizon for my line before i have my phone and without disrupting existing service?

Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Sep 17, 2012

parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

Don Lapre posted:

Maybe somewhere. When we added my mom out bill went from $136 to $147.


You are both right; recently Verizon switched the way fees are listed for each line so each line gets a relatively even split of taxes and fees. In this way while the total amount of fees and taxes is a pretty small $1-3 depending on where you are, the line charge listed will be above $15.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

parasyte posted:

You are both right; recently Verizon switched the way fees are listed for each line so each line gets a relatively even split of taxes and fees. In this way while the total amount of fees and taxes is a pretty small $1-3 depending on where you are, the line charge listed will be above $15.

Yep, my main line makes the $9.99 lines look like they are loaded with fees.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Spaz Medicine posted:

Yeah, it was one of these. We didn't even know that was a thing, so we didn't notice it wasn't a corporate store until we had started to sign up. Hell, I don't know if it would have even made a difference if we went to an actual Verizon-owned storefront. I'm irritated and disappointed that we walked in intending to get three smart phones, and walked out with two, only one of which works. The third party makes kind of an easy target. I just don't know who to direct my irritation at. :(

Hopefully the parents are OK with just cancelling all of it and starting over at an actual Verizon outlet, but I sincerely doubt they want to deal with cellphone salespeople twice in two days.

Thanks for the input, everyone. :)

Most cell phone stores are franchises, Verizon and the like tend to own a few stores per city and spread them out evenly, and let 3rd parties do the rest.

There is no right answer, it's a case by case, heck month by month basis on where is best to go service wise. Wireless has a huge turnover so most people working are there usually less than a year.

GUYS STOP
Jun 7, 2003
Grimey Drawer

Auron posted:

I was helping my parents switch from their current plan to a Share Everything plan, and when selecting the option to change the plan at the next billing day it tells me that the first month will be pre-billed on their next bill. Does that mean they will not receive another bill for a couple of months, or is it going to keep pre-billing?

edit: Just figured it out...all cell phone bills are paid in advance. Did not know this until looking at my bill. I guess the next quest is, if I switch to my parents' plan, is there any way Verizon would reduce my ETF on my individual plan as I'm still staying with them just switching to a shared plan?
If you're moving from one VZW account to another via assumption of liability you're not actually disconnecting so there is no ETF. Also there is never a fee for changing plan types ever. I think AT&T does that maybe.

GUYS STOP
Jun 7, 2003
Grimey Drawer

Kingtheninja posted:

Checking my data usage and I apparently haven't gone over .5 gb in the past year. Knowing that, it looks like a smartphone with 1gb data would run $90. With surcharges etc, should I expect to pay something like $100-105 total?

Probably. Give me a state or better a zip code and I can give you specific rates if you really want them. NY and MA are usually the highest.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Watch Out Smarmy posted:

If you're moving from one VZW account to another via assumption of liability you're not actually disconnecting so there is no ETF. Also there is never a fee for changing plan types ever. I think AT&T does that maybe.

This is what I just did, thanks! I had no idea about assumption of liability until I called.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Did the unlimited LTE tethering feature (for grandfathered users) go away after the 6/28 changes? I have it on one of my lines, but I'm curious if I upgrade my wife to an iPhone 5 if she'd be able to still get it.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."

Watch Out Smarmy posted:

Probably. Give me a state or better a zip code and I can give you specific rates if you really want them. NY and MA are usually the highest.

53705, thanks a bunch!

kill your idols
Sep 11, 2003

by T. Finninho
I've been messing with the account manager and have no luck adding a $9.99 line to my nationwide plan and still getting my unlimited data. I'm either a moron or it doesn't pick it up anymore.

I'm not due for an upgrade until 12/2012 though.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

kill your idols posted:

I've been messing with the account manager and have no luck adding a $9.99 line to my nationwide plan and still getting my unlimited data. I'm either a moron or it doesn't pick it up anymore.

I'm not due for an upgrade until 12/2012 though.

Are you already on a family plan?

kill your idols
Sep 11, 2003

by T. Finninho
Yes, nation talk text 1400. Two iPhones each with their own data plan.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

kill your idols posted:

Yes, nation talk text 1400. Two iPhones each with their own data plan.

Odd, I had no problems adding a line ordering from apple directly.

Also will verizon be able to swap the sim/phone to my line or will I have to go in and get a new sim?

Untagged
Mar 29, 2004

Hey, does your planet have wiper fluid yet or you gonna freak out and start worshiping us?
Is there a good sub-$300 newer phone that can be purchased somewhere at retail? Or even potentially say on EBay in relatively good condition. I've got an old unlimited account that I'd like to keep grandfathered for a while and continue to use without the new cap. Problem is my Droid Pro is slowly becoming a complete piece of poo poo.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Untagged posted:

Is there a good sub-$300 newer phone that can be purchased somewhere at retail? Or even potentially say on EBay in relatively good condition. I've got an old unlimited account that I'd like to keep grandfathered for a while and continue to use without the new cap. Problem is my Droid Pro is slowly becoming a complete piece of poo poo.

I would look towards Swappa before I looked at eBay.

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

I pre-ordered a Verizon iPhone from Apple, and it wont get here until October 5th.

Since I've been an iPhone user since the iPhone 3G I've never really tried an Android phone. Would it be possible to pick up an Android phone and start a contract with Verizon and if I like it just cancel the iPhone 5. Or if Android makes me want to punch babies I can return the phone and just keep the iPhone 5 that I'm set to get on October 5th.

Basically what I'm asking is would the pre-order I have for the iPhone 5 cause any issues? Technically I haven't started any sort of contract yet but maybe the pre-order puts some kind of hold on me or something.

I'll check with Verizon after work regardless, but if anyone knows that would be cool.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
You wont be able to upgrade the line unless you cancel your preorder.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Don Lapre posted:



Also will verizon be able to swap the sim/phone to my line or will I have to go in and get a new sim?

You'll have to get a new SIM since apple went to a smaller one.

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

I'm not an existing Verizon customer. So I guess the question is would they let me start as a new customer without cancelling the iPhone order.

The Verizon website says my number is still eligible for porting, so I don't think there's any sort of block at the moment.

NyetscapeNavigator fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 18, 2012

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

bull3964 posted:

You'll have to get a new SIM since apple went to a smaller one.

No i mean, can verizon change the line the sim is associated too over the phone. i have no sim right now. I want the sim to be on a different line than the phone is coming for.

Basically can i save a trip to verizon and reuse this sim on a different line.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

Don Lapre posted:

No i mean, can verizon change the line the sim is associated too over the phone. i have no sim right now. I want the sim to be on a different line than the phone is coming for.

Basically can i save a trip to verizon and reuse this sim on a different line.
You might be able to do from the web on MyVerizon. I know you can for CDMA-only devices (without SIMs), so it might work for ones that need SIM cards as well.

The Odd One
Dec 5, 2011

Stpuid
Im guessing at this point the DroidX2 is never going to see an unlock?


I feel so drat scammed.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

The Odd One posted:

Im guessing at this point the DroidX2 is never going to see an unlock?


I feel so drat scammed.
Maybe you can find the other guy that bought one and start a class action. What a lovely phone that turned out to be. Sorry, man.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Maybe you can find the other guy that bought one and start a class action. What a lovely phone that turned out to be. Sorry, man.

I wasted an upgrade on a Droid X2. It was indeed a loving terrible phone: nothing but problems. I exchanged it for replacements 4 times because it randomly restarted on me at least once a day. I finally had them send me a Droid 3 and never really looked back.

Motorola usually makes rock-solid phones, but something went terribly wrong with the X2.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


chocolateTHUNDER posted:

I wasted an upgrade on a Droid X2. It was indeed a loving terrible phone: nothing but problems. I exchanged it for replacements 4 times because it randomly restarted on me at least once a day. I finally had them send me a Droid 3 and never really looked back.

Motorola usually makes rock-solid phones, but something went terribly wrong with the X2.

CoWorker had a similar experience. She got her X2 when Verizon was swapping out Fascinates (for an issue that was resolved a month later, ha!). She missed the Charge by 1 day and opted for the X2. She swapped it 3 times, and finally ended up with something else (I can't remember what).

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Motorola usually makes rock-solid phones, but something went terribly wrong with the X2.
Were there *any* good Tegra 2 phones?

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