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Donny Brook posted:Don't worry guys. Jax is gonna get to the bottom of this and figure out who did this to Opie. The Sons decide to join a religious cult run by Boyd Crowder and are all killed by Boyds father. Watch Justified bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 26, 2012 |
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Sep 26, 2012 18:24
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The Sons travel to Australia to attend the funeral of the late president (portrayed by Paul Hogan) of the SAMCRO:AUS chapter only to find that he has been resurrected as an alien/human hybrid hell bent on monopolizing the gun/drug/hooker/porn industry and enslaving all of mankind when the motherships arrive. BAM! Best season ever. Also Mulder and Scully.
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Sep 26, 2012 18:28
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Ransom posted:Soooooo can we get our Samcro title things removed now?  I think it was Inspector 71 who gave them out, I haven't seen him post in the thread.
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Sep 26, 2012 18:29
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Well some rear end in a top hat on facebook spoiled the ep for me. So can someone explain exactly what happened with Opie? This sucks.  I guess I'll keep watching but if this show doesn't end with every single person dead I'm gonna flip my poo poo. That's all I want to see now, literally every loving character killed and there better not be any loving "Jax and Tara live happily ever after" loving ending either. 
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Sep 26, 2012 18:31
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smg77 posted:If you think of this show as a soap opera like General Hospital or Days of Our Lives it becomes much more watchable. If I think of it as poo poo I would never watch, it becomes more watchable? The problem is that it used to not be poo poo; it got compared to Shakespeare, not TV for fat housewives gobbling down Bon-Bons and waiting for Jerry Springer reruns.
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Sep 26, 2012 18:32
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basx posted:If I think of it as poo poo I would never watch, it becomes more watchable? It has turned into a show Peggy Bundy would watch.
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Sep 26, 2012 18:34
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spixxor posted:Well some rear end in a top hat on facebook spoiled the ep for me. So can someone explain exactly what happened with Opie? He got killed in the gladiator ring right next to the solitary confinement cells with two beds.
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Sep 26, 2012 18:41
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Speaking of, what was that room? It looked like something straight out of Silent Hill. What's that chief? What dried blood spattered room in solitary? Oh, that's just where we, um, put used blood. Yeah. No biggie.
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Sep 26, 2012 18:51
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Sutter basically said in an interview that SOA is just a fun, easy soap-opera for men. I'm too lazy to find the quote, but it takes a lot of wind out of critics' sails because he is admitting it is not meant to be a masterpiece, just an hour of violent, dramatic television. Also, if you go back and rewatch Season 1/2, this show was never 'great', the plot was just a bit more believable. Hell, Gemma's rape scene is set to some lovely rock ballad.
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Sep 26, 2012 18:59
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Ransom posted:He got killed in the gladiator ring right next to the solitary confinement cells with two beds. Hey man, you ever been to solitary confinement alone? It's fuckin' boring.
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Sep 26, 2012 19:08
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Also, what happened to the Mayans, Oswald, Darby, Hale's brother and all of the other characters we've been introduced to over the past four seasons? You figure they might have an interest in recent goings-on.
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Sep 26, 2012 19:10
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Couldn't they have at least let Opie drag one of the bad dudes down with him? I mean he hit one in the head with a pipe but somehow he was fine.
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Sep 26, 2012 19:12
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Pron on VHS posted:Sutter basically said in an interview that SOA is just a fun, easy soap-opera for men. I'm too lazy to find the quote, but it takes a lot of wind out of critics' sails because he is admitting it is not meant to be a masterpiece, just an hour of violent, dramatic television. Yeah, but "You just don't get it, maaaaan!" is the last ditch effort of the hack. This show is no longer fun or easy, it's just plodding, nonsensical, and dumb. I used to hear it referred to as "white trash Hamlet," but at least Shakespeare understood dramatic arcs. Sutter pretty much can't stop playing with his Biker Gang action figures and he only gets rid of one after running it through the garbage disposal so many times that it's unrecognizable. Seriously, all I can see is a staging of Hamlet where Horatio is the only one to die at the end and Shakespeare runs up on stage screaming, "SCENE, YOU CUNTS!"
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Sep 26, 2012 19:13
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Couldn't they have at least let Opie drag one of the bad dudes down with him? I mean he hit one in the head with a pipe but somehow he was fine. I think Opie was resigned to his fate.
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Sep 26, 2012 19:27
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For me the moment when this show jumped into being totally unbelievable biker fantasy was in season three when they were riding around Ireland with their patches on and started bullying those military-looking police officers around. It's always had it's more unbelievable elements before that, but it felt more grounded in reality during the first two seasons. I still enjoy watching the show for the characters and all the gang fighting and intrigue, I just try not to waste time trying to make sense of some of the more outlandish poo poo that Sutter throws in there.
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Sep 26, 2012 19:39
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JohnSherman posted:Who would he be reporting this to exactly. And really, what prison/jail doesn't have cameras all over the loving place now. They are all over the facilities these days and many rooms have 2 or more, just for backup and multiple angles. Second, why wouldn't Pope be more scared of the Cartel?
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Sep 26, 2012 19:49
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One thing about the jail scenes. Jax, chibs, tug and opie were the only white people in jail? Where was the Aryan Brotherhood from season 2? I'm sure they didn't forget about their history with samcro from season 2.
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Sep 26, 2012 21:07
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Watching Opie go out like that was upsetting. Almost as upsetting as seeing Kenny Johnson getting blasted on The Shield.
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Sep 26, 2012 22:12
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I'm trying to remember, did they bury Piney in a coffin when he was cremated?
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Sep 26, 2012 22:13
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Ugh. I really liked the idea of this season because of Pope and the fact that he's completely cold-blooded. But gently caress Kurt Sutter forever for pulling that poo poo. I've lost what little interest I had left in this show. I'm out. gently caress you Kurt Sutter. gently caress you.
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Sep 26, 2012 22:24
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I thought the actual pipe scene was good, but they just didn't put the groundwork into putting Opie in a position where he would give his life for SAMCRO. Two episodes ago he, quite rightly, wanted nothing to do with the club; then Clay of all people convinces him to protect Jax, so he gives up his kids and risks his life by going to jail; then Jax tells him the truth and he, quite rightly, wants to smash Jax's face in; then Jax tells him about all the convoluted stuff and Opie's all "CIA? Why didn't you tell me bro? I'm totally ready to die for you in that case!". Such a waste of a great character. It could have been one of the most tragic arcs in TV history, but they completely botched it. Sutter probably thinks he did something on a par with Lem's death, too. Junkenstein fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Sep 26, 2012 |
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Sep 26, 2012 22:32
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basx posted:If I think of it as poo poo I would never watch, it becomes more watchable? No, if you think of it as dumb escapist fare and not Breaking Bad or Mad Men it becomes more watchable. Also, it wasn't exactly Shakespeare in the first season. It was much better than it is now but there was plenty of browalking in season one.
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Sep 26, 2012 22:46
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empty baggie posted:So, how many episodes till we get to see Jax tell that prison guard "you're in my hell now, bitch"? That's what I'm holding on to. That and I really want to see Tara beat Gemma's rear end.
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Sep 27, 2012 00:03
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Syrant posted:That and I really want to see Tara beat Gemma's rear end. I'd be content if they just had Clay sleep with some woman and then have Gemma beat the crap out of her every episode. Unser can investigate in his spare time.
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Sep 27, 2012 00:24
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Ransom posted:Soooooo can we get our Samcro title things removed now? I remember back in the day having to choose between a samcro tag and the futurama tag. I actually took a day or two to think about, and I'm extremely happy about my decision.
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Sep 27, 2012 00:38
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I feel bad for Piney's trike. That thing is never going to be sold now!
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Sep 27, 2012 00:43
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Opie's death just felt so pointless in the grand scheme of.. well.. anything. He died to get the Sons out of the same situation they've been in a hundred times and the same situation they'll be in next week and every week after. All the deaths on the show seem fairly pointless, really.
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Sep 27, 2012 01:16
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Am I seriously the only person who noticed that Opie only jumped the guard because Jax was about to? He didn't "die for the club". He took Jax's place.
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Sep 27, 2012 01:29
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SmellsLikeToast posted:Am I seriously the only person who noticed that Opie only jumped the guard because Jax was about to? He didn't "die for the club". He took Jax's place. I think everybody noticed it's just the entire setup to it happening was really stupid.
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Sep 27, 2012 02:43
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Aesion posted:I feel bad for Piney's trike. That thing is never going to be sold now! I'm pretty sure Clay is going to end up riding it to complete the circle.
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Sep 27, 2012 02:44
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SmellsLikeToast posted:Am I seriously the only person who noticed that Opie only jumped the guard because Jax was about to? He didn't "die for the club". He took Jax's place. I thought Jax's speech meant all four would jump the guards and see what happened. Take their chances etc. Also SoA fans are weird. This is a comment from Maureen Ryan's review of the episode. quote:she's either too old or too wimpy to understand what an awesome--and sometimes brutal--show SOA truely is Bizarre.
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Sep 27, 2012 04:03
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Why did only one son have to die when both the cleaner and the cop on the take were killed? Did I miss that? After last night's episode I now either feel a strong antipathy for, or don't give a poo poo at all about every single character. There are a couple I don't mind, but they've become totally stagnant and predictable.
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Sep 27, 2012 04:14
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mookface posted:Why did only one son have to die when both the cleaner and the cop on the take were killed? Did I miss that? It was to pacify the niners for the guy who was killed during the chase after Popes daughter was killed last season. E: I guess nobody gives a poo poo about the cop or the cleaner.
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Sep 27, 2012 04:17
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empty baggie posted:It was to pacify the niners for the guy who was killed during the chase last season. Well that was just rammed in there akwardly and makes no sense, I must have zoned out.
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Sep 27, 2012 04:19
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Pope didn't really give an explanation. Presumably one Son is equal to one cleaner and one cop in gangland arithmetic. Also there really aren't that many Sons to go around. Killing off Opie and Chibs and leaving Tig in gaol would kill the show. edit: I missed the stuff about the Niners too. Why would Pope give a poo poo about the Niners when he's already killed their leader (twice!) and turned them into his puppet gang? Seams fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Sep 27, 2012 |
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Sep 27, 2012 04:20
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Pope actually said it was to pacify the niners. What's funny is that the niners apparently don't care about Pope having LeRoy and the other dude killed for no apparent reason
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Sep 27, 2012 04:21
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Seams posted:Pope didn't really give an explanation. Presumably one Son is equal to one cleaner and one cop in gangland arithmetic. Now that you put me in a unfair and compromising situation and as a result have murdered my best friend, you have to promise to let Tig out ok? I need him for my own reasons and after he's served this function you can have do whatever you want with him. Serious I don't give a poo poo about him at all just let him out of jail you can trust me. empty baggie posted:Pope actually said it was to pacify the niners. What's funny is that the niners apparently don't care about Pope having LeRoy and the other dude killed for no apparent reason That doesn't make any sense though. Who even runs the niners now? Why would he give a poo poo about some random banger casualty? Why the gently caress would Pope care that they cared at all? It was just a dumb explanation for a dumber plot device designed to immitate a story. Trying to understand any of this just hurts your head because literally nothing makes sense when you explicate it. But Pope said it was to appease the Niners, not the other way around! VVVVVVVVVVVVV BONE DOG fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Sep 27, 2012 |
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Sep 27, 2012 04:24
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empty baggie posted:Pope actually said it was to pacify the niners. What's funny is that the niners apparently don't care about Pope having LeRoy and the other dude killed for no apparent reason Pope trumps all in their world. They know if they get in his way, they will end up like LeRoy.
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mookface posted:Now that you put me in a unfair and compromising situation and as a result have murdered my best friend, you have to promise to let Tig out ok? I need him for my own reasons and after he's served this function you can have do whatever you want with him. Serious I don't give a poo poo about him at all just let him out of jail you can trust me. That's the kind of thinking that turns players into kings. 
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