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ThermoPhysical posted:Is the Nexus 7 still having screen problems? I'm guessing not as bad since there had to have been different shipments by now but I'm still wondering. I just got one on Saturday and the screen is fine.
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Sheep posted:I just got one on Saturday and the screen is fine. That's good. Guess it was just an early batch issue. low-key-taco, not much in the way of smoothness to be had from JB. Google's definition seems to be more transitional animations. I like some of the features and bugfixes so I'm sticking with it, but it is what it is. A point release.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 09:05 |
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Sheep posted:I just got one on Saturday and the screen is fine. Good to know, thanks! General_Failure posted:low-key-taco, not much in the way of smoothness to be had from JB. Google's definition seems to be more transitional animations. I like some of the features and bugfixes so I'm sticking with it, but it is what it is. A point release. Jelly Bean actually does make things smooth. My Nexus S is actually running faster than it did on Gingerbread and ICS, same goes with my boyfriend's Nexus S. The Galaxy Nexus is pretty smooth as well as I've used it a bit in Sprint's store and in a local electronics store. The Nexus 7's smoothness seems to be a combination of Jelly Bean + the Tegra 3.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 09:10 |
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low-key-taco posted:Not really seeing much improvement in 'smoothness' on my tf700 with JB. The custom launcher I think was screwing things up but after a reset it still seems pretty similar to ics. If my wife hadn't recently gotten a Nexus 7 I wouldn't know how smooth the device could be which is a pisser. I guess the high res screen is just too much for the hardware? People have made that complaint about the retina MBP and iPad 3 too so I guess its a trade off. Seems like a worthwhile one to me though.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 09:21 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:Good to know, thanks! I suppose I didn't have any issues with ICS either except when the OE did a kernel release that was for the worse, so maybe I just didn't notice. Everything in JB seems to be pretty much instant, but it was like that for me with ICS. The only notable difference being screen rotation. JB improved that greatly, even with the added rotational transition animation. They are both a great improvement over their predecessors though. edit: Oh hey. There's another new thing in JB I just saw. A toggle for showing notifications in the apps management menu. Unless that's a part of Nova, but I don't think it is. General_Failure fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Oct 2, 2012 |
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Yeah, I still occasionally get slightly laggy home screen transitions, settings menu pop-ups and app transitions. I don't know nescessarily if it's the GPU/CPU being unable to keep up (which would be odd, since most 3D games I've played only exhibit slight framedrops, and generally only the kind of games like NOVA, Dead Trigger etc, the latter which seems to run at the full 1920x1200) or if it's the incredibly poor I/O performance holding it back. Seriously, go run a few benchmarks and compare it to, poo poo, any phone from three years ago. The 700 has TERRIBLE I/O performance. Nothing will ever change that, unfortunately. The very particular combo of NAND and I/O controller the 700 uses have massive issues, which become even worse when multiple writes are involved. Go download 5-6 apps in the background while trying to use Chrome, and witness just how jerky things can get. edit: Oh gently caress me, I didn't preserve root. Now I can't use browser2ram
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 10:22 |
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nightwisher posted:Yeah, I still occasionally get slightly laggy home screen transitions, settings menu pop-ups and app transitions. I don't know nescessarily if it's the GPU/CPU being unable to keep up (which would be odd, since most 3D games I've played only exhibit slight framedrops, and generally only the kind of games like NOVA, Dead Trigger etc, the latter which seems to run at the full 1920x1200) or if it's the incredibly poor I/O performance holding it back. Seriously, go run a few benchmarks and compare it to, poo poo, any phone from three years ago. The 700 has TERRIBLE I/O performance. Manufacturers can do funny things. I was surprised when it was mentioned that the Wi-fi chip for my tablet is connected to the SoC via both USB and SDIO. It gives them options I guess? Or that my Ideos has a multitouch compatible screen but it can only be used as such by using a mod ROM because it was never enabled in stock configurations. etc.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 10:32 |
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In 40 or so minutes, hopefully I can confirm that you can downgrade safely from JB to ICS even unrooted. All I can confirm right now is: Holy poo poo Asus get some faster loving servers already.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 10:51 |
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Sheep posted:I just got [a Nexus 7] on Saturday and the screen is fine. I think this was luck of the draw for you. I got one from Staples a week ago and the screen was noticeably bad in a 2" stretch on one side. It wasn't really the screen lifting at all, but if I put any pressure on the screen there it would cave in slightly. The annoying part was I checked it when I got it and it seemed fine, so I think even light use for a day or two can bring out the screen problems. When I returned it and told him why, the Staples guy said "yeah, we've gotten some returns for that issue." sourdough fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Oct 2, 2012 |
# ? Oct 2, 2012 12:18 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Third-party read support for NTFS isn't the tricky part. What's the tricky part? Is there something besides licensing? I have a 1TB external that my TF101 spins up just fine with RW privileges.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 12:35 |
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General_Failure posted:That the Anal... sorry Ainol tablets had an internal SD corruption issue. Well and truly fixed. Apparently before better firmwares came out the way to do it was format the internal memory to 64k cluster size. Guess I was right about it being a fatfs issue.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 18:54 |
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randyest posted:You already gave your daughter her Christmas present? Glad she likes it, but what's she going to get to open on Christmas morning? The RMA.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 19:07 |
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mcbexx posted:A lot of people (me included) like this one: Love that one, though the 'smart cover' portion of it never works, so that might be something to watch out for those that care. Took a quick and nasty photo of mine with my phone, apologies in advance.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 19:11 |
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blugu64 posted:Love that one, though the 'smart cover' portion of it never works, so that might be something to watch out for those that care. Took a quick and nasty photo of mine with my phone, apologies in advance.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 19:39 |
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blugu64 posted:Love that one, though the 'smart cover' portion of it never works, so that might be something to watch out for those that care. Took a quick and nasty photo of mine with my phone, apologies in advance. If I recall correctly on the first iteration of this case the magnet didn't work. It was fixed quickly after and I thought I read that people got a free second one if they bought the first one. Might want to look into it. I have this case and mine works fine also. As for the two clips, once it breaks in a little you don't have to manually push them off.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 19:58 |
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RVProfootballer posted:I think this was luck of the draw for you. I got one from Staples a week ago and the screen was noticeably bad in a 2" stretch on one side. It wasn't really the screen lifting at all, but if I put any pressure on the screen there it would cave in slightly. The annoying part was I checked it when I got it and it seemed fine, so I think even light use for a day or two can bring out the screen problems. When I returned it and told him why, the Staples guy said "yeah, we've gotten some returns for that issue." Much the same with a purchase from Walmart during a trip to the States two weeks ago. Grabbed a replacement from the same store before my holiday ended and it's absolutely fine. Definitely luck of the draw, still.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 21:40 |
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RVProfootballer posted:I think this was luck of the draw for you. I got one from Staples a week ago and the screen was noticeably bad in a 2" stretch on one side. It wasn't really the screen lifting at all, but if I put any pressure on the screen there it would cave in slightly. The annoying part was I checked it when I got it and it seemed fine, so I think even light use for a day or two can bring out the screen problems. When I returned it and told him why, the Staples guy said "yeah, we've gotten some returns for that issue." Cragz posted:Much the same with a purchase from Walmart during a trip to the States two weeks ago. Grabbed a replacement from the same store before my holiday ended and it's absolutely fine. Definitely luck of the draw, still. Guess I'll just have my friend check it out before he sends it. Besides the screen lift, anything else I should have him check for without actually having to turn it on?
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Cragz posted:Much the same with a purchase from Walmart during a trip to the States two weeks ago. Grabbed a replacement from the same store before my holiday ended and it's absolutely fine. Definitely luck of the draw, still. My second one is good after two days so far I also got a second $25 credit unintentionally. I have two Gmail accounts I use, added them both on both Nexuses, and got the Wallet prompt for one account the first time and the other account the second time. I didn't mean to steal from you Google except when I realized what was happening and used a different card. ThermoPhysical posted:Guess I'll just have my friend check it out before he sends it. Besides the screen lift, anything else I should have him check for without actually having to turn it on? Not that I know of, everything else on mine was perfect. Also, just to be clear, mine had almost no "screen lift" just looking at it from the side, but pressing on one spot made it clear the screen wasn't seated correctly (or something) there.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 22:21 |
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randyest posted:You already gave your daughter her Christmas present? Glad she likes it, but what's she going to get to open on Christmas morning? There's other stuff. It was a bit of a debate, but it's something that's useful that she can benefit from. One of the first things she did was request educational titles. Primarily mathematics. So its doing its job. What's the hard part about NTFS support? It should just need one of the NTFS modules compiled against the kernel. I think even my tablet supports it, but then why the hell would I have an NTFS formatted SD card?
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 22:22 |
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General_Failure posted:What's the hard part about NTFS support? It should just need one of the NTFS modules compiled against the kernel. I think even my tablet supports it, but then why the hell would I have an NTFS formatted SD card? Store large HD movie rips would be my reason, unless there's another file system that would be better for this that I'm unaware of?
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 22:45 |
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Store large HD movie rips would be my reason, unless there's another file system that would be better for this that I'm unaware of? ExFat probably
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 23:01 |
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How big is the speaker problem on the Nexus 7?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 04:51 |
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Good point with the partition type with large movies, but then unless you were just storing wouldn't there be a potential IO bottleneck for the bitrate? It may seem a touch hypocritical but this PC has an 800 or so GB NTFS partition. The only reason is so on the rare occasion I use Windows it can access the large storage partition. I don't know if the ext2/3/4 driver for Windows situation has improved in the past few years but it used to be pretty bad and corruption-tastic. Now I think of it I can't think of any good reason not to format my 32Gb MicroSD with an ext2/3/4 filesystem besides effort. It'd also allow me to boot linaro. But I'm still torn on why I'd want to do that.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 07:18 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:How big is the speaker problem on the Nexus 7? What speaker problem?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 08:49 |
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Cakefool posted:What speaker problem? New one to me. I haven't heard of it either.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 09:35 |
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I was going to say the same thing, but I think someone earlier in the thread said they had a staticy (staticky?) speaker and got a replacement. I've got a question about movies I've grabbed online - I use MXPlayer on the Nexus 7 and sometimes it won't play movies, or won't play the audio. Is there anything I can run the movies through (usually MKV, sometimes AVI) to make sure they'll play?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 11:04 |
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I've also had problems getting audio to play in MX Player on my nexus 7, but so far it's always been fixed by switching to software decoding for audio. Go to audio settings (the music note in the top right when playing a video), and and deselect hardware decoding for audio. I haven't had a video straight up not play yet though, including the formats you mentioned, but maybe try turning into off hardware decoding for video as well?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 11:37 |
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The Nexus 7 speaker is definitely tinny but I've not experienced any problems with mine other than the fact that some retard in Asus' design bureau decided to put it on the rear of the device (and thus pointing away from the user) for some stupid reason.
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Konjuro posted:I've also had problems getting audio to play in MX Player on my nexus 7, but so far it's always been fixed by switching to software decoding for audio. Go to audio settings (the music note in the top right when playing a video), and and deselect hardware decoding for audio. I haven't had a video straight up not play yet though, including the formats you mentioned, but maybe try turning into off hardware decoding for video as well? I'll give those a try - on my first N7 movie playback worked fine but it was unlocked and rooted purely so I could use an OTG cable. I haven't done anything with the replacement yet except install a bunch of apps.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 13:06 |
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General_Failure posted:Good point with the partition type with large movies, but then unless you were just storing wouldn't there be a potential IO bottleneck for the bitrate? Huh. I usually format my removable drives with NTFS for the speed bump if I need to copy a lot of data. For daily use, I think it's trivial.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 13:08 |
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Sheep posted:The Nexus 7 speaker is definitely tinny but I've not experienced any problems with mine other than the fact that some retard in Asus' design bureau decided to put it on the rear of the device (and thus pointing away from the user) for some stupid reason. Very few devices have speakers facing forwards, sadly. My archos dealie had stereo front facing speakers but had to be nearly an inch wider to accommodate them. Rear facing speakers are a lot more effective if you place your hands to cup the sound forwards, but this limits you to holding a tablet in both hands, a bit impractical to show something or watch a whole movie.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 13:25 |
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krushgroove posted:I was going to say the same thing, but I think someone earlier in the thread said they had a staticy (staticky?) speaker and got a replacement. Do they use DTS for audio? MX player removed the codec in the newer versions because of licensing issues.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 14:06 |
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Cakefool posted:What speaker problem? General_Failure posted:New one to me. I haven't heard of it either. Sorry, guys. Had to finish up with work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmx7RxU5Oww In this video and the comments to this video, it seems the N7 has a few speaker issues. The most recent comment, 5 days ago, also has this issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJFf8W7FkQ8 After a replacement, it seems things are fine though. I was just wondering how widespread the problem is.
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Apparently not very as I haven't heard of the problem either before now. In other news, Pew released some new data yesterday. http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/pew-research-center-tablet-ownership-report/ 22% of US adults now own tablets. Android tablet marketshare (as surveyed) up from 15% in 2011 to 48% in 2012 (21% of that being the Kindle Fire.) The survey was done before the release of the Nexus 7 as well, so that could change numbers a bit. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Oct 3, 2012 |
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Now for a question that isn't about the flaws of the Nexus 7. Do you still get the magazines when you buy a new tablet and how do they work? Are they lifetime subscriptions or just free one-time issues?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 18:17 |
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They are single issues. I don't know if you still get them or not with a new Nexus 7 (and if you do, I wonder what month they are for since mine were July.)
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 19:02 |
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I got mine last week and they are indeed for July.
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# ? Oct 4, 2012 01:57 |
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Fuzz posted:Also, anyone have any suggestions or a good third-party Kindle Fire HD 7" case? Looking for something with a stand and that will cover the screen, obviously. I've learned the hard way not to always trust Amazon reviews... I got a Nook Color case a couple years back that totally sucked even though it was 4+ star rated. I have the Marware Microshell Folio case that Amazon recommended for the original Kindle Fire. Personally, it's one of my favorite cases for a tablet ever, it feels amazing and is fairly low profile (and fairly protective, it has protected mine through a few falls). I'm pretty sure I've seen some for the new Fire(s).
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I like the look of the DODOcase for my Nexus 7 so I just dropped like £30 on one. It's gonna take like a week to get here in the UK but it looks alright. I've had it since launch without a case because I just never got round to buying one. Worried about the adhesive part of it though. When they say you wipe it clean and it becomes sticky again, how many uses do you actually get out of that? I've never heard of such witchcraft. I'd expect it to start losing its stick after like 3/4 wipes.
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