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Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011
Oxford Comma: Hey guys I want a cool big dog to show off! I want it to be ~special~ like Thor but more couch potato-like because I got babbies in the house!
Everybody: GET A LAB.
Oxford Comma: OK! (gets a a pit/catahoula mix)

ratbert90 posted:

If this is true I hope that means the same for the mini. :allears:

Goddamnit, I literally bought a Mac mini yesterday. I guess I will find out about Best Buy's return policy very soon!

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lord funk
Feb 16, 2004

Hard drive died yesterday. But I ordered an SSD to replace it, so :dance:

Also I don't know what to do with my day. I went outside and there was this super bright disk suspended in the sky. It frightens me.

quadratic
May 2, 2002
f(x) = ax^2 + bx + c

Bob Morales posted:

I saw this on Reddit so blah blah



It's supposed to mean new iMacs in two weeks.

Let's not get too excited. From that thread:

quote:

No, you chose a CTO iMac. Those are shipped out from China. The standard models are in stock.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

CombatMedic posted:

I'm about to make "the switch" from PCs to a rMBP this week.

I'm planning on doing some (light) gaming on it at some point. Minecraft, Guild Wars 2, TF2. Eventually probably doing a boot camp install.

I like the look of the Magic Mouse. Is it suitable for games, or should I buy a traditional bluetooth with separate buttons for games?

If so, what are some recommendations for Mice to use with a Mac?

I use my rmbp for gaming and it works great. Some suggestions if you want to game on your TV.

1. Get a xbox 360 wireless reciever
2. Get the steam beta big picture mode, put in steam in startup
3. Get hdmi cable
4. Get boot champ http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/28468/bootchamp
5. To play on your tv, hook in hdmi, choose bootchamp restart into windows, wait 2 minutes, double tap your xbox guide button, play.

Works amazingly well.

Bonus: Leave the screen open, and double tap command p to switch video output to TV only to help save your display.

It's the best console I've ever had.

Stabbing Spork
Apr 9, 2006
I just ordered a refurbished June 2012, 15" non-retina MBP. I want to upgrade the SSD and RAM myself, so I was planning on ordering the Crucial 256GB M4 2.5" drive, and some DDR3 PC3-12800 RAM. Are these the right parts?
Is it worth getting 16gigs of RAM, or should I just stick to 8? I plan on using this laptop for music production, so I think the extra ram will help loading samples in ableton live, or running multiple VSTs.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Stabbing Spork posted:

I just ordered a refurbished June 2012, 15" non-retina MBP. I want to upgrade the SSD and RAM myself, so I was planning on ordering the Crucial 256GB M4 2.5" drive, and some DDR3 PC3-12800 RAM. Are these the right parts?
Yup

quote:

Is it worth getting 16gigs of RAM, or should I just stick to 8? I plan on using this laptop for music production, so I think the extra ram will help loading samples in ableton live, or running multiple VSTs.
Will you use over 8GB? Then go for it.

Sharrow
Aug 20, 2007

So... mediocre.
Are there any particularly good stands for the rMBP?

Bootcamp gaming is burning the tips of my fingers; I might try elevating it and sliding an external keyboard underneath instead.

Edit: an open stand so I can still use the screen, not a vertical stand like the BookArc.

Styles
Jul 17, 2004

Sharrow posted:

Are there any particularly good stands for the rMBP?

Bootcamp gaming is burning the tips of my fingers; I might try elevating it and sliding an external keyboard underneath instead.

Edit: an open stand so I can still use the screen, not a vertical stand like the BookArc.

I had the same problem so I got a razr nostrama and it doesn't fix the heat problem it just moves your hand away from it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114015

gregday
May 23, 2003

Sharrow posted:

Are there any particularly good stands for the rMBP?

Bootcamp gaming is burning the tips of my fingers; I might try elevating it and sliding an external keyboard underneath instead.

Edit: an open stand so I can still use the screen, not a vertical stand like the BookArc.

The Rain mStand is the only one you should be considering.

http://www.raindesigninc.com/mstand.html

jt
Nov 23, 2004

I love Japan! All hail the glorious Nippon!
I'm having issues with HDMI on a rMBP - whenever I plug it into my TV, it selects 1080p but always requires the overscan slider to be moved in a fair bit to make the screen fit. It's done this on quite a few TV's that I've seen now.. never noticed with a mini-displayport to DVI adaptor before... what is up with this?

jeff8472
Dec 28, 2000

He died from watch-in-ass disease
Does your tv have a 1:1 pixel mode? A lot of times its the default for dvi or vga connections but the hdmi ports default to a slightly zoomed in 16:9 mode to ensure any funky video artifacts on the edges are eliminated.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

jt posted:

I'm having issues with HDMI on a rMBP - whenever I plug it into my TV, it selects 1080p but always requires the overscan slider to be moved in a fair bit to make the screen fit. It's done this on quite a few TV's that I've seen now.. never noticed with a mini-displayport to DVI adaptor before... what is up with this?

I'm seeing the same behavior with overscan, but just not worrying about losing a little bit as I'm only using it for gaming and video.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

11" Retina doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell, does it?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Why not? The 10" iPad has Retina so it shouldn't be that hard to get a 11" version.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Mu Zeta posted:

Why not? The 10" iPad has Retina so it shouldn't be that hard to get a 11" version.

Would they sell enough of them? I really wonder what the ratio is in sales for the 13 to the 11. Not to mention it already has dick for battery life.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Bob Morales posted:

Would they sell enough of them? I really wonder what the ratio is in sales for the 13 to the 11. Not to mention it already has dick for battery life.

I'm one of the rare people who thinks the 11" is better than the 13". It doesn't seem much smaller spec-sheet wise, and there's a pretty steep cost to battery life, but holy hell is it ever the most portable and useful thing ever. My girlfriend has a 13" and it seems comically enormous to me.

I travel everywhere with it, and at home it even acts as my workstation, driving a 23" monitor and hosting a development VM. I was going to get a Mac Mini for home, but honestly, I don't think I need one.

:love: Best computer ever.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I love the idea of the 11" but I spent over an hour at an Apple Store trying to compare the two and I couldn't see myself using it as my main computer. It has great design but the 13" was just more comfortable.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Bob Morales posted:

Would they sell enough of them? I really wonder what the ratio is in sales for the 13 to the 11. Not to mention it already has dick for battery life.

I think in a few years, there won't be any apple products with sub-retina displays. It's just a question of time.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I'm anticipating the trickle down that will someday allow me to buy a 21" retina-equivalent lcd. :allears:

Begone forever, pixels!

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

xzzy posted:

I'm anticipating the trickle down that will someday allow me to buy a 21" retina-equivalent lcd. :allears:

Begone forever, pixels!

Go find an IBM T221.

http://www.amazon.com/IBM-T221-22-2-3840x2400-Monitor/dp/B00006HS5R

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Mu Zeta posted:

I love the idea of the 11" but I spent over an hour at an Apple Store trying to compare the two and I couldn't see myself using it as my main computer. It has great design but the 13" was just more comfortable.

The biggest problem is you're looking 'down' at the keyboard the whole time instead of 'over' at the screen like you do with the 13"

Lexicon posted:

My girlfriend has a 13" and it seems comically enormous to me.

Yea, the 11" makes the 13" look like the 15".

My only real complaint about the 11" is that you can't plug two monitors into it. But I guess one of those could be a 27" and that's enough room.

skirth
Oct 29, 2010
There's a nice tribute to Steve Jobs on the front page of apple.com if anyone's interested.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




skirth posted:

There's a nice tribute to Steve Jobs on the front page of apple.com if anyone's interested.

Wow, I was wondering why the hell they were doing it now...and then the video reached the obituary and realized it's already been a year since he died. :stare:

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Bob Morales posted:

Yea, the 11" makes the 13" look like the 15".

So true. It's such a portable machine. It's practically the size of an iPad.

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

Lexicon posted:

So true. It's such a portable machine. It's practically the size of an iPad.

Solution: get a 13" MBA and a new iPad. I don't travel mass transit that much so it's a pretty sweet setup in my experience.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Kenny Logins posted:

Solution: get a 13" MBA and a new iPad. I don't travel mass transit that much so it's a pretty sweet setup in my experience.

Yeah, that makes sense for most people probably. I actually used to have an iPad and ended up selling it - it's hard for me to be productive with it. I really, really hate text entry on it, and find the lack of multitasking a bit hobbling. I ended up only using it as a glorified reddit/SA browser and eBook reader, and eventually found I'd be better served by a Nexus 7 for those needs.

I think that's why I'm such a strong advocate of the 11" - it has basically all the portability benefits of the iPad and none of my perceived drawbacks. It's basically the S2000 of computing. Sorry for the car analogy.

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003

gregday posted:

The Rain mStand is the only one you should be considering.

http://www.raindesigninc.com/mstand.html
I use this at work and love it.

The only thing I would say is that a keyboard and mouse are a prerequisite. The FAQs mention that you can type on it, but I've tried and it's not the best.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Bob Morales posted:

Yea, the 11" makes the 13" look like the 15".

My only real complaint about the 11" is that you can't plug two monitors into it. But I guess one of those could be a 27" and that's enough room.

Both the MBAs have quite a lot of bezel around the screen. I'd love to see an 11" MBA body with an awesome 12.5" screen.

CombatMedic
Feb 26, 2004

ANUDDAH SUCCESSFOOL PRECEEDJUH!
I'm new to Macs, and this is a dumb question, but I want to ask anyway just to reassure myself.

Western Digital makes a 2TB 2.5" portable hard drive. The Mac version is $219, and the PC version is $165.

Is there any difference in these drives, (besides the drive formatting) or is it just charging more for the Mac version because they think Mac users will pay more for the same thing?

Here are the links:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Passport-Portable-WDBKKF0020BSL-NESN/dp/B008R7EXJW/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1349553383&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Passport-Portable--WDBY8L0020BBKNESN/dp/B005HMKKH4/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1349553419&sr=1-1

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

They think Mac users are dumb. It might have backup software made for Macs but I just erase that stuff before using any way.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


My mother's USB external hard drive is dying, and this is her Time Machine backup drive. She doesn't use the computer at a desk, just browses on it from the couch. Since her drive is dying, she's going to need to replace it so she doesn't loose her photos and etc.

I was showing her the Time Capsule so that she wouldn't be tied down to a USB drive that she has to keep stored under an endtable. However, that's $300 bucks on Apple's site. Is there a wireless NAS that would as a Time Machine drive instead?

porno for the deaf
Oct 26, 2004

Get in there. Have some sex with her right now.

IUG posted:

My mother's USB external hard drive is dying, and this is her Time Machine backup drive. She doesn't use the computer at a desk, just browses on it from the couch. Since her drive is dying, she's going to need to replace it so she doesn't loose her photos and etc.

I was showing her the Time Capsule so that she wouldn't be tied down to a USB drive that she has to keep stored under an endtable. However, that's $300 bucks on Apple's site. Is there a wireless NAS that would as a Time Machine drive instead?

Not sure if this helps at all, but you can get a refurbished Time Capsule and save 40 bucks:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD032LL/A/refurbished-time-capsule-2-tb

Sharrow
Aug 20, 2007

So... mediocre.

gregday posted:

The Rain mStand is the only one you should be considering.

http://www.raindesigninc.com/mstand.html

The mStand is indeed awesome, thanks. :)

MrBond
Feb 19, 2004

FYI, Cheese NIPS are not the same as Cheez ITS

Mu Zeta posted:

They think Mac users are dumb. It might have backup software made for Macs but I just erase that stuff before using any way.

Yup, pretty much. I don't know if that case is plastic or actual metal, but that's pretty much the only difference I saw. It was USB3 though, so maybe the Mac usb3 variant is brand new?

There is a Mac WD drive that has the metal look and FW800 ports, which would explain a cost difference but that drive is not it.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Mu Zeta posted:

They think Mac users are dumb.

Do they think they are dumb, or have money to spend?

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

MrBond posted:



There is a Mac WD drive that has the metal look and FW800 ports, which would explain a cost difference but that drive is not it.

My work let me pull one of those off the shelf to use as a multi-boot and installer drive, and though it's overpriced, it's loving awesome and feels indestructible. I've abused the poo poo out of it and it still looks brand new.

Bob Morales posted:

Do they think they are dumb, or have money to spend?

Pretty much this. WD has online training for salespeople (WD University), and when learning about the Mac versions of their products, it basically says this without coming right out and saying it.

empty baggie fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Oct 7, 2012

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

MrBond posted:

There is a Mac WD drive that has the metal look and FW800 ports, which would explain a cost difference but that drive is not it.



I lusted over that drive until I remembered my Airs don't have FireWire ports, and USB 3.0 came out.

It's not like most people would notice the speed difference between FW800 and TB in a 'green' 2.5" drive anyway.

Bob Morales fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Oct 7, 2012

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

I'd say those drives will have USB 3.0 within a year. Are there any portable TB drives yet? I don't think I've ever seen one.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

empty baggie posted:

I'd say those drives will have USB 3.0 within a year. Are there any portable TB drives yet? I don't think I've ever seen one.

Seagate makes a (massive) GoFlex TB adapter:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007IJ7T4G

And the Apple store has Lacie and Buffalo products:

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/storage#m.tsConnections=thunderbolt&m.productKind=portable_hard_drives

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Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

empty baggie posted:

I'd say those drives will have USB 3.0 within a year. Are there any portable TB drives yet? I don't think I've ever seen one.

There's no point: HDD can't come close to saturating thunderbolt and SSDs as used by external drive makers are ludicrously expensive.

The best use for thunderbolt right now is the gig-E adaptor.

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