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danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

If you don't try your beer at room temperature, then you really aren't tasting it. Duh.

I prefer to take it one step further and actually bake my beer before drinking it. My recommended process:

1. Pre-heat the oven to 350 F.
2. Pour beer into a dutch oven. (NOTE: Must actually be dutch for best results.)
3. Cook for 3 hours.
4. Taste while still hot.

This is the best way to tell if your beer tastes good without tasting it.

Or something.

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bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


There are a lot of people out there with dumb and wrong opinions about beer. Last time I was in San Diego I visited Alesmith. The room was crowded, and my buddies and I ended up sharing a barrel-table with a few other dudes. One of them was some kind of beer pundit, but he was so goddamn wrong about everything I wanted to smack him.

"I love me some IBUs. Ballast Point? Sculpin is terrible; Bigeye is way, WAY better, so much more bitter. I heard good things about Alesmith's IPA so I came here to try it. It's not even a real IPA, there's no bitterness at all. Why the hell do they call it an IPA?"

I mean seriously who the hell likes Bigeye better than Sculpin, am I right guys?

On Tuesday I talked with a guy at my local bar who was all about Fresh Beer. "Fresh Beer is Good Beer. Go to Boulder City Brewing, all their beer is Fresh and it's awesome." (BCB is pretty much unknown outside of Boulder City, the city between Vegas and the Hoover Dam, because it's forgettable beer; not bad, just meh and not worth the 20-minute drive.) "Yeah I bought some Stone beer in a store but it wasn't very good, not fresh enough." Meanwhile he was drinking a draft of 2011 Rogue Yellow Snow and loving it because "it's SO FRESH."

Then again, I like Frangelic Mountain and spend significant amounts of money on beers most people don't like (I'd totally buy a case of Bully Guppy, for instance). So maybe we're all just varying types of wrong about beer.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

bartolimu posted:

So maybe we're all just varying types of wrong about beer.

Speak for yourself. I'm always right about beer.

There's a liquor store not far from me and whenever the younger guy behind the counter (who probably is the beer orderer) is there, he asks if I need help (nice!) and then proceeds to tell me, "I'm a hophead!" Every time. And he'll repeat it 2-3 times per visit. And then he tries to sell me 120 Minute. Because he's a hophead.

I think using the term "hophead" should get you banned from drinking beer forever.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Thanks to Deadwood I hear it as "hooplehead" and get stuck with that "I'm trying not to laugh at you" grin.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Splizwarf posted:

Thanks to Deadwood I hear it as "hooplehead" and get stuck with that "I'm trying not to laugh at you" grin.

Oh man... Now that's gonna be running through my head, too. SWENJIN!!!!!

BoredByThis
Jul 13, 2001

Watch out! I'll attract you too!
Was walking around Loyola last night and went into a nondescript package goods store on Sheridan. Went to the cooler, and there by its lonesome was a single bottle of Frangelic Mountain Brown. Now I know that it's a polarizing beer, but to see it just sitting in a cooler this long after release, I took it as a sign and grabbed it. This along with a bottle of FFF/Mikkeler Risgoop have accounted for my impulse beer purchases recently.

Toebone
Jul 1, 2002

Start remembering what you hear.

Midorka posted:

Oh yeah, my girlfriend looked into it and apparently Hoboken has strict parking rules or something? I think our plan of action is to check out the cake boss place, go to some museum in Newark, go back to NJ Beer CO (maybe) to check out their beers, then hit up Triumph on the way home for dinner and beer since the beer looks decent there. How is Maxwell's? I know it's pretty famous. Any good beer on tap? Also what stores should I check out while in the areas?

I'll be at Maxwells tonight, The Melvins are playing in the back room. It's more famous as a venue than a beer bar or anything like that, the best you'll find on tap is gonna be Brooklyn or Sierra Nevada. The Pilsener Haus is pretty good, they have a big assortment of German and Belgian stuff, plus pretty decent biergarten style food. I've heard Cork City is good for American craft stuff, but I've never been there myself.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

BoredByThis posted:

FFF/Mikkeler Risgoop

I had this at FFFs and wasn't impressed. So when I (surprisingly) saw bottles at $18 per, I walked away.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

bartolimu posted:

I mean seriously who the hell likes Bigeye better than Sculpin, am I right guys?

I haven't had super fresh Sculpin, but I liked Big Eye better from memory. I'll have to try both again though.

Toebone posted:

I'll be at Maxwells tonight, The Melvins are playing in the back room. It's more famous as a venue than a beer bar or anything like that, the best you'll find on tap is gonna be Brooklyn or Sierra Nevada. The Pilsener Haus is pretty good, they have a big assortment of German and Belgian stuff, plus pretty decent biergarten style food. I've heard Cork City is good for American craft stuff, but I've never been there myself.

Yeah I've been wanting to see Yo La Tengo there for some time, guess I'll pass until there's a venue.

BoredByThis
Jul 13, 2001

Watch out! I'll attract you too!

danbanana posted:

I had this at FFFs and wasn't impressed. So when I (surprisingly) saw bottles at $18 per, I walked away.

I've had Hvede/Boo/Oatgoop, so I figured why not, yeah, $18 is pricey, but I've put more down on a football game and lost, so why not.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

BoredByThis posted:

I've had Hvede/Boo/Oatgoop, so I figured why not, yeah, $18 is pricey, but I've put more down on a football game and lost, so why not.

Oh yeah, I would have put down if I hadn't had it yet. But I had.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Bells' This One Goes To 11 Ale is finally hitting stores here. Grabbed a 6-pack on my lunch hour and am looking forward to trying this tonight.

BCBS is also finally hitting stores, but I'm staying far far away from that one.

global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

Snagged a bottle of that as well. My local spot only got 2 cases, so it was a 2 bottle limit. I really only wanted one bottle though- they were 2.99. I'm just excited because it's a hype/limited release I can afford! And Imperial Reds are becoming one of my favorite styles, excited to see where Bell's goes with it and especially excited to try an Imperial Red this beefed up, most others I've had have hovered around the 7% mark.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

bartolimu posted:

There are a lot of people out there with dumb and wrong opinions about beer. Last time I was in San Diego I visited Alesmith. The room was crowded, and my buddies and I ended up sharing a barrel-table with a few other dudes. One of them was some kind of beer pundit, but he was so goddamn wrong about everything I wanted to smack him.

"I love me some IBUs. Ballast Point? Sculpin is terrible; Bigeye is way, WAY better, so much more bitter. I heard good things about Alesmith's IPA so I came here to try it. It's not even a real IPA, there's no bitterness at all. Why the hell do they call it an IPA?"

I mean seriously who the hell likes Bigeye better than Sculpin, am I right guys?

On Tuesday I talked with a guy at my local bar who was all about Fresh Beer. "Fresh Beer is Good Beer. Go to Boulder City Brewing, all their beer is Fresh and it's awesome." (BCB is pretty much unknown outside of Boulder City, the city between Vegas and the Hoover Dam, because it's forgettable beer; not bad, just meh and not worth the 20-minute drive.) "Yeah I bought some Stone beer in a store but it wasn't very good, not fresh enough." Meanwhile he was drinking a draft of 2011 Rogue Yellow Snow and loving it because "it's SO FRESH."

Then again, I like Frangelic Mountain and spend significant amounts of money on beers most people don't like (I'd totally buy a case of Bully Guppy, for instance). So maybe we're all just varying types of wrong about beer.

Hophophops Guy bothers me greatly because he tends to dismiss everything that isn't IPA. He's basically the Beer Geek in that video series. http://vimeo.com/38649844 I remember talking to the head brewer at Ballast Point and he told me guys come in almost every day and ask if they have any new IPAs and then when he says no, they look sad and leave.

I guess it just bugs me to say you're "into craft beer," but there's like 84 BJCP styles and Hopshophops Guy only likes 3 of them - APA, IPA and Imperial IPA.

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Oct 5, 2012

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

Angry Grimace posted:

I guess it just bugs me to say you're "into craft beer," but there's like 84 BJCP styles and Hopshophops Guy only likes 3 of them - APA, IPA and Imperial IPA.

That Guy doesn't like APAs. He orders them if they're the hoppiest thing on the list, and then complains about how they would be Ok if they had more hops.

Paul Proteus
Dec 6, 2007

Zombina says "si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!"

BoredByThis posted:

Was walking around Loyola last night and went into a nondescript package goods store on Sheridan. Went to the cooler, and there by its lonesome was a single bottle of Frangelic Mountain Brown. Now I know that it's a polarizing beer, but to see it just sitting in a cooler this long after release, I took it as a sign and grabbed it. This along with a bottle of FFF/Mikkeler Risgoop have accounted for my impulse beer purchases recently.

So far north and you didn't even say hello. What store are you talking about?

Beer talk -

Why must my normal store get so many sours in? I had to buy them all...
Tart of Darkness, Oude Tart, Lou Pepe Kriek 2009, and Cuvee de Champions.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Sirotan posted:

Bells' This One Goes To 11 Ale is finally hitting stores here. Grabbed a 6-pack on my lunch hour and am looking forward to trying this tonight.

Anyone know if this got wide distribution? We get most Bell's stuff here in Indiana so hopefully I can find This One Goes To 11, it sounds awesome.

BoredByThis
Jul 13, 2001

Watch out! I'll attract you too!
It was Bruno's on Sheridan just north of Loyola Ave. I have rehearsal up there once every couple of weeks.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Jmcrofts posted:

Anyone know if this got wide distribution? We get most Bell's stuff here in Indiana so hopefully I can find This One Goes To 11, it sounds awesome.

Some Chicago stores are reporting it in. Hoping to snag a sixer tonight.


Paul Proteus posted:


Why must my normal store get so many sours in? I had to buy them all...
Tart of Darkness, Oude Tart, Lou Pepe Kriek 2009, and Cuvee de Champions.

Gotta ask... Where? Not that I'm going to have time to hit any far north places in the next few days, but if I know there's a place where I can finally splurge on some Cantillon, I'd be interested.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

Some Chicago stores are reporting it in. Hoping to snag a sixer tonight.


Gotta ask... Where? Not that I'm going to have time to hit any far north places in the next few days, but if I know there's a place where I can finally splurge on some Cantillon, I'd be interested.

Me too. I've been dying to try LP anything, the kriek especially.

Paul Proteus
Dec 6, 2007

Zombina says "si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!"
It was Binnys Lakeview.

That said, knowing that doesn't help much. The bottles that did come in were unexpected on their part and never ordered by Binnys. Apparently the new distributor for Cantillon in Chicago has been really screwing up. I go there most weeks, and they just had them randomly. I know they're sold out now (they only got like 6 bottles of each).

@Bored - That's only like 3 blocks from my place now. I just bought a house right off Pratt. I'm surprised that place had that - it's very much an underage beer store / old man bar.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Paul Proteus posted:

It was Binnys Lakeview.

That said, knowing that doesn't help much. The bottles that did come in were unexpected on their part and never ordered by Binnys. Apparently the new distributor for Cantillon in Chicago has been really screwing up. I go there most weeks, and they just had them randomly. I know they're sold out now (they only got like 6 bottles of each).

@Bored - That's only like 3 blocks from my place now. I just bought a house right off Pratt. I'm surprised that place had that - it's very much an underage beer store / old man bar.

Gotcha. I figured it would be some random local store I hadn't known about, but as soon as you said Binnys Lakeview I knew they'd be gone by the time I got there.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

crazyfish posted:

Gotcha. I figured it would be some random local store I hadn't known about, but as soon as you said Binnys Lakeview I knew they'd be gone by the time I got there.

Ditto. Was thinking maybe it was West Lakeview. I'll be honest: I've pretty much given up on Binny's for anything resembling limited run (except the Elmwood park one, which tends to have stuff sit). I find much better luck with smaller shops.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

Ditto. Was thinking maybe it was West Lakeview. I'll be honest: I've pretty much given up on Binny's for anything resembling limited run (except the Elmwood park one, which tends to have stuff sit). I find much better luck with smaller shops.

Same. I usually wind up paying a buck or two more than Binny's for the limited stuff, but the guys at my local store have always treated me right.

Paul Proteus
Dec 6, 2007

Zombina says "si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!"

danbanana posted:

Ditto. Was thinking maybe it was West Lakeview. I'll be honest: I've pretty much given up on Binny's for anything resembling limited run (except the Elmwood park one, which tends to have stuff sit). I find much better luck with smaller shops.

I feel you completely.

Skokie Binnys does a lottery drawing each time. No money to put in and they just call you to pick your stuff up if you win (works for me since I work up in Skokie). Lakeview has been awesome because I'm a regular. They put aside a one bottle each for their regulars, then sell the remainder first come first serve. People line up outside the place on Thursday mornings when something crazy comes out...

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Jmcrofts posted:

Anyone here tried Schlafly Pumpkin Ale? It seems to have a decent amount of hype, so I picked up a sixer. It's quite good! Tastes like a cinnamon pumpkin pie, crust and all.

This beer is amazing. I had my parents bring me up a six pack last weekend (doesn't ship to Chicago, but my parents live in Champaign) and now my buddy is going to Bloomington this weekend and is bringing me back two more sixers. Really tasty beer. Wish it came to Chicago.

dumptruckzzz
Sep 13, 2010

BoredByThis posted:

Was walking around Loyola last night and went into a nondescript package goods store on Sheridan. Went to the cooler, and there by its lonesome was a single bottle of Frangelic Mountain Brown. Now I know that it's a polarizing beer, but to see it just sitting in a cooler this long after release, I took it as a sign and grabbed it. This along with a bottle of FFF/Mikkeler Risgoop have accounted for my impulse beer purchases recently.

We've had one lone bottle of Frangelic in our cooler for close to a month now, I don't know how its still there because the others sold faster. It does have a tear in the label though so maybe people just don't want to buy the cripple beer.

RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


Paul Proteus posted:

@Bored - That's only like 3 blocks from my place now. I just bought a house right off Pratt. I'm surprised that place had that - it's very much an underage beer store / old man bar.

What the hell, when did you and I become neighbors? I'm in an apartment on Pratt as well.

Content: Casimir, the Goose Island innovation beer I helped develop, is being released very soon! :) It's a Polish-inspired beer using wheat malt we smoked ourselves, along with caraway seed and chocolate rye malt. Check out this video if you want to know more. It should be out on tap in the Chicago area soon.

ChiTownEddie
Mar 26, 2010

Awesome beer, no pants.
Join the Legion.

Ubik posted:

Content: Casimir, the Goose Island innovation beer I helped develop, is being released very soon! :) It's a Polish-inspired beer using wheat malt we smoked ourselves, along with caraway seed and chocolate rye malt. Check out this video if you want to know more. It should be out on tap in the Chicago area soon.

Awesome. I'm definitely going to have to try it.

I've been so out of trying to get decent beer lately. I did go to Haymarket last weekend, had their Simcoe IPA. I have to say I don't recall having a beer that I could have been like "Oh this is Simcoe" and man I thought it was delicious. Mmmm this is making me think I'm due to hit Clybourn GI soon...

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Just opened the 2011 Avery Rumpkin that Caselogic sent me in our trade. This pumpkin beer is loving crazy. Monstrous. Devastating. Tons and tons of booze in it (it has to be quite a bit north of the 15.9% that it started at), but in a really smooth, warming, sweet way. Some interesting woody notes swimming around among the spices and the sugary flavors. Honestly, it tastes like a rum-soaked pumpkin pie plus toasted marshmallow. It has officially unseated Pumking as my Fall dessert beer champion.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

americanzero4128 posted:

This beer is amazing. I had my parents bring me up a six pack last weekend (doesn't ship to Chicago, but my parents live in Champaign) and now my buddy is going to Bloomington this weekend and is bringing me back two more sixers. Really tasty beer. Wish it came to Chicago.

I had one of them fresh out of the fridge when I wrote that post, and since I've had one that I let sit out for an hour to warm up. Definitely let it get warmer (it was probably 55F or so when I drank it), it is SO GOOD that way, you get so much sweetness. Definitely buying more whenever I see it again.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
Against the Grain's Bo and Luke... Smoked imperial stout aged in Pappy van Winkle barrels. I actively dislike smoked beers, but this thing is something to love on a cool autumn night.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006

Angry Grimace posted:

Hophophops Guy bothers me greatly because he tends to dismiss everything that isn't IPA. He's basically the Beer Geek in that video series. http://vimeo.com/38649844 I remember talking to the head brewer at Ballast Point and he told me guys come in almost every day and ask if they have any new IPAs and then when he says no, they look sad and leave.

I guess it just bugs me to say you're "into craft beer," but there's like 84 BJCP styles and Hopshophops Guy only likes 3 of them - APA, IPA and Imperial IPA.

I have beef with the Hopheads because it seems that every beer release that happens in SoCal has the same 4 or 5 of them wearing their dirty as gently caress Hophead t-shirt looking like the homeless.

They're the vision of the stereotype that folks have when thinking of a beer sperges. Dirty dirty fucks who, indeed feel the need to only like a beer that is DIPA or stronger.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

bartolimu posted:

I mean seriously who the hell likes Bigeye better than Sculpin, am I right guys?

Boulder City...not worth the 20-minute drive.

Two quick points because I'm about to run out to what's probably going to be an underwhelming Oktoberfest thingy, but...

1. I like Big Eye more than Sculpin and get excited when a restaurant has that on tap over Sculpin.

2. F Boulder City, total speed trap bullshit town that popped me in one of those 65>35 transition zones pissant towns like that use for easy revenue since their dying ghost town can't bring in income any other way.

But, here's to some awesome Hefs tonight or something like that!

Sublimer
Sep 20, 2007
get yo' game up


Here's some nice Vancouver beer porn. Bag of Sun Chips, got your beers in there too!



BTW, it's kind of hard to see but the black waxed beer is Driftwood Singularity. It's a bourbon barrel aged stout which is a style I love. The mouthfeel is a bit thin and the bourbon is more subtle when compared to KBS, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Overall, I'd say I liked it more than KBS, but not quite as much as BCBS or Parabola.

nominal
Oct 13, 2007

I've never tried dried apples.
What are they?
Pork Pro
Whelp, Sunday Bolt Cutter release tickets: acquired. The wife was able to get one pretty easily as well. After all the beer ticket rush horror stories I've heard, that process didn't seem to go too badly at all. Of course, we don't actually HAVE our bottles yet, so we'll see how that part goes. Hope to see a few of you there!

letgomyAgo
Aug 6, 2012
Looking for some advice from beer goons here, a friend of mine is in Germany for the next 2 weeks, and is willing to bring back whatever German beer I request. I've never really been big on German beer, going for mostly local craft stuff so I'm kind of at a loss on what to tell him.

Any suggestion on some good stuff to have brought in?

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

letgomyAgo posted:

Looking for some advice from beer goons here, a friend of mine is in Germany for the next 2 weeks, and is willing to bring back whatever German beer I request. I've never really been big on German beer, going for mostly local craft stuff so I'm kind of at a loss on what to tell him.

Any suggestion on some good stuff to have brought in?

don't think he's going to find too terribly much in terms of German beer that you can't find here, although it's probably a lot more fresh. if he's in the western or northwestern part of the country there will likely be offerings from Holland and Belgium that either don't make it over or only make it over in small quantities or limited distribution areas. Cantillon, de Molen, de Ranke, de Struise, Fantome, Boon, Drie Fonteinen... maybe some Scandinavian beers, too, but i don't recall seeing any while i was over there.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
Went to a party last night and now I have to add my voice to the Daytime lovin'. The best session-ish pale ale I've ever had. In fact, I loved it so much I just snagged a sixer for a Metra ride west to a bottle share. A perfect way to start a day of 10%+ monsters...

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loldor
Jul 4, 2008

Hi beer thread. A request from a swedish friend I'm meeting soon plus this thread convinced me to more thouroughly explore geuzes than before.

Just returned from a round trip to Brussels. Visited Tilquin, 3 Fonteinen en Cantillon before heading back to holland with a trunk full of beer. Got everyone's oude geuze and some extras, such as Tilquin Quetsche, 3F gold label and Winter, and Cantillon Grand Cru, Fou'Foune and Mamouche. all brewers and stekers were very kind and willing to show and talk about their beers and operations.

Very content and looking forward to opening one up tonight.

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