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Zombywuf posted:C# support for unicode is excellent. And later versions of Perl5. plpgsql is pretty good for it as well. (very) recent perl 5 handles many corner cases correctly. c# has pretty much all of the usual gochas
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MononcQc posted:tbh I haven't read any of the projects' code and can't know if one or the other has that feel of "you can do it if you hammer in the screw hard enough!" where it's possible, but far from nice to implement things with or without call/cc. it's basically an implementation of minikanren from william byrd's phd thesis which was made into a book called the reasoned schemer i know people who have used core.logic to solve real life problems relating to software development so i guess it's good enough for that
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Hard NOP Life posted:What the gently caress did you just say java is racist
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Otto Skorzeny posted:(very) recent perl 5 handles many corner cases correctly. c# has pretty much all of the usual gochas http://98.245.80.27/tcpc/OSCON2011/gbu.pdf see also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7131023/what-are-the-key-decisions-to-get-right-when-designing-a-fully-unicode-aware-lan edit: meant this one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6162484/why-does-modern-perl-avoid-utf-8-by-default/6163129#6163129 tef fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Oct 10, 2012 |
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Oct 10, 2012 15:59
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:it's basically an implementation of minikanren from william byrd's phd thesis which was made into a book called the reasoned schemer that was an okay book. the series is alright.
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Oct 10, 2012 16:05
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this post reserved for jelly-stains
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homercles posted:incredibly smart people solving arbitrarily hard problems in undoubtedly clever ways that no-one cares about this is everything in computers ever
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Hard NOP Life posted:What the gently caress did you just say  it's ok no one really cares about Linear B except one guy on the Unicode committee and he's a linguistics prof so you don't need to worry about this ever being an issue irl. Just remember 1 16-bit char = 1 character and maybe think about combining characters if ur feeling saucy
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Oct 10, 2012 17:33
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Nomnom Cookie posted:If u didn't understand that post ur getting Unicode wrong Discrimination against dead languages is wrong 
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Oct 10, 2012 17:43
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Sweeper posted:this is everything in computers ever computers are now 90% about solving computer problems and 10% about solving real world problems
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Oct 10, 2012 18:14
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actually most of my time is spent solving real world problems, but in really dumb ways
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Oct 10, 2012 18:16
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MononcQc posted:that was an okay book. the series is alright. the concept of minikanren is p cool tho logic programming in lisp is more fun than prolog imo
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Oct 10, 2012 18:20
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homercles posted:incredibly smart people solving arbitrarily hard problems in undoubtedly clever ways that no-one cares about if you're sitting there programming away and you hit on this really clever solution and you implement it and it's just so cool and you're really happy about it, i want you to remember my stern visage and then go back and comment out all that clever poo poo and rewrite it super-plain so a retard can read and understand it.
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Oct 10, 2012 19:47
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cool thread for nerd idiots
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Kirk posted:cool thread for nerd idiots nice post for a fuckface rear end in a top hat shithead!!!
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Oct 10, 2012 19:52
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Shaggar posted:Once ur a web "dev" you're tainted forever. right now im the only one working on this project so i have to do everything the java parts are so nice and easy and fun but everything else is a gigantic pain in the rear end right now im fighting with sql server 2005 and really wishing we were on 08 or 12 so i could use table valued parameters to stored procedures the whole thing is a clusterfuck because the app we're replacing was a mess of horrible architecture that was hard or impossible to modify so our customer wants "everything in the database so it'll be easy to make changes!" 
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put as much business logic in the db/procs as u can cause it is ezier to manage and the db is always going to be faster than ur code at doing relational stuff. re: table parameters: yeah it would be nice to have those, but in the meantime just write the proc to do single rows and then wrap the group of proc calls in a transaction. if ur using mybatis-spring this is super ez.
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Shaggar posted:the db is always going to be faster than ur code at doing relational stuff. *does not apply to mysql
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Oct 10, 2012 20:17
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he said the database, not mysql
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Oct 10, 2012 20:31
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tef you did a presenatation not long ago but i dont think you ever posted the vid. i keep googling for it on the double ewe double ewe everyday but i cant find it. i wanna watch the vid. where is it!
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barbarianbob posted:tef you did a presenatation not long ago but i dont think you ever posted the vid. i keep googling for it on the double ewe double ewe everyday but i cant find it. i wanna watch the vid. where is it! http://vimeo.com/45474360
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Oct 10, 2012 21:11
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i already watched that one. isnt there a GNUer one?? i need more tef in my life
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Oct 10, 2012 21:12
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barbarianbob posted:i need more tef in my life
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Oct 10, 2012 21:13
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we have a new tef thread. please move all tef discussion over there please
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Oct 10, 2012 21:12
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barbarianbob posted:i already watched that one. isnt there a GNUer one?? i need more tef in my life http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3511214
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Oct 10, 2012 21:12
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ah, thanks you, kind friend
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rotor posted:if you're sitting there programming away and you hit on this really clever solution and you implement it and it's just so cool and you're really happy about it, i want you to remember my stern visage and then go back and comment out all that clever poo poo and rewrite it super-plain so a retard can read and understand it. the little difference between "I read your code and you are a genius" and "I tried to read your code and well, you must be a genius"
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Shaggar posted:put as much business logic in the db/procs as u can cause it is ezier to manage and the db is always going to be faster than ur code at doing relational stuff. holy poo poo shaggar i just lost a few iq points from the stroke you gave me
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Oct 10, 2012 23:15
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Shaggar posted:put as much business logic in the db/procs as u can never write a code again
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Oct 10, 2012 23:16
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i mean if you use some terrible poo poo like mysql then yeah maybe ur "database" is poo poo but ultra-lmao if you're doing set based poo poo in code instead of the db where it belongs.
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Oct 10, 2012 23:48
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bbbbbb b b bb buuuttt i like to use my toy languages to do it 10000x slower.... 
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i mean u can use a rules engine for events and stuff i guess.
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Oct 10, 2012 23:52
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Zombywuf posted:C# support for unicode is excellent. Marshaling says otherwise, Microsoft really hosed that up. Java is very good up to Unicode 5, then Sun went retardo and refused to fix their JVM whilst IBM did things properly. No idea what the state is today with Oracle.
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Shaggar posted:bbbbbb b b bb buuuttt i like to use my toy languages to do it 10000x slower.... goddamnit shaggar your business rules are probably prepubescent if they can fit in a db call
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barbarianbob posted:tef you did a presenatation not long ago but i dont think you ever posted the vid. i keep googling for it on the double ewe double ewe everyday but i cant find it. i wanna watch the vid. where is it! yep, still waiting on that one to be uploaded 
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rotor posted:if you're sitting there programming away and you hit on this really clever solution and you implement it and it's just so cool and you're really happy about it, i want you to remember my stern visage and then go back and comment out all that clever poo poo and rewrite it super-plain so a retard can read and understand it.
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Oct 11, 2012 01:49
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tef posted:yep, still waiting on that one to be uploaded godammit
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Oct 11, 2012 01:50
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since i get to actually write software at work i almost want to gently caress around with small problems and esoteric programming languages at home
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what's the best way to learn lisp
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