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kalicki posted:Does not buying an OCZ product still count if it's free?
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That should be an indicator of the value.
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Oct 17, 2012 05:37
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Civil posted:That should be an indicator of the value. Speaking of the value of ocz . . .
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Oct 17, 2012 06:21
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Chuu posted:Speaking of the value of ocz . . . Someone stored all the stock on one of their drives and..
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Oct 17, 2012 07:30
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kalicki posted:Does not buying an OCZ product still count if it's free? Small sidenote, newegg runs this special all the time, I suspect because they are hugely inferior to the versions with the AMD E-series APUs, plus the GMA 3600 does not have (and never will have) 64-bit windows drivers. These units are also not as quiet as they should be -- I strongly suggest getting the new fanless versions. Chuu fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Oct 17, 2012 |
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Oct 17, 2012 08:22
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Chuu posted:Speaking of the value of ocz . . .
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Oct 17, 2012 09:39
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evil_bunnY posted:So glad to see that. On a feel-good anecdote about OCZ, but unrelated to SSDs, my brother had an OCZ PSU he bought in the US several years ago, but he lost the modular cables when he moved back to the UK. They shipped him a brand new bag of cabling when he was asking where to buy them. I don't think the thing was even in warranty any more. Not saying OCZ is a great company in all aspects, but I can see why people would think they're a good bet if there are customer support experiences like this floating around. Just in case anyone managed to read this as a vote for OCZ, that's incorrect. I still wouldn't recommend OCZ, of course. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Oct 17, 2012 |
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Oct 17, 2012 09:47
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I'm really not sure how seriously to take CPU magazine these days. I got a new (free) subscription to it because I subscribed and enjoyed the magazine ten years ago. Anyway, among other things they gush about OCZ SSDs and act like they're probably the best drives that you can get. I'm thinking this magazine may suck now.
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Oct 17, 2012 11:01
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Who is this OCZ and why are they so lovely? I haven't heard anything about them except to "avoid them". Everything from shipping out replacement drives that had different internals with the same model number (screwing up someone's RAID) to having a crazy-high failure rates. If all they've done is pissed people off, how are they still around? Where did they come from? I'd think a new start-up company that just sells turds would have immediately been killed by the market. Are they part of a larger company? Packard Bell's entire business model was selling poop, so they were ran out of the US almost 20 years ago. Why is OCZ still around?
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Oct 17, 2012 15:32
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Xenomorph posted:Who is this OCZ and why are they so lovely? OCZ made 'performance' RAM years ago. Like, 5-10 years ago sort of era.
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Oct 17, 2012 15:46
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Yeah, it was one of the first gaming-chic enthusiast computing outfits, and one of the first companies to develop and push worthwhile client SSDs. Think Corsair, except more about pushing boundaries than making solid products.
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Oct 17, 2012 15:54
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OCZ had the most reliable RAM at one point, too bad they suck now. Crucial has the lowest return rates now, in case you were wondering.
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Oct 17, 2012 17:25
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uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:OCZ had the most reliable RAM at one point, too bad they suck now.
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Oct 17, 2012 17:30
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Glen Goobersmooches posted:What are you basing this statement upon? It was a long time ago, they don't make RAM anymore but the only place to check other return rates are here: http://www.behardware.com/articles/862-4/components-returns-rates-6.html They do them every few months uhhhhahhhhohahhh fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Oct 17, 2012 |
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Oct 17, 2012 18:51
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I bought a Kingston SSDNow V+100 64 GB (SVP100S2) on the cheap to throw in an old Inspiron 6400 I have. In the BIOS it does not show up, though. I updated the BIOS but no dice. I put the SSD in my primary computer which has a SSD/Win 7 setup -- with my normal drive it shows 128G in the BIOS, but with this Kingston it just says ATAPI. Any idea what's going on here? FWIW, the Inspiron's BIOS has no settings about SATA or AHCI. I've found forum articles bemoaning this fact, but I found other articles that mentioned several people were running SSDs in their Inspiron 6400s.
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Oct 17, 2012 20:16
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BadBeatsCrewDerk posted:Any idea what's going on here?
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Oct 17, 2012 20:35
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uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:OCZ had the most reliable RAM at one point, too bad they suck now. It's just an anecdotal quote, but even given Anand's relationship with OCZ now, even he recognizes how lovely their memory was.Link Anand posted:When I first met Ryan around a decade ago, he wanted to know why I wouldn't allow him to advertise OCZ on AnandTech. The company at that time had an extremely bad reputation. It was among the worst I'd ever seen. It was so bad that not only would we not review their products (memory, at the time) but I wouldn't allow OCZ ads to run on the site. Although all advertising on AnandTech is handled through a third party, I still have the ultimate say on what ends up on the site. Back then, OCZ wasn't allowed.
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Oct 17, 2012 20:36
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Alereon posted:This is a garbage drive using an ancient Toshiba controller that didn't work properly when it was new. When you combine this with an ancient laptop that was made before the first SSD and you can see why this won't work. Ostensibly this brand of drive does work, and people are able to get SSDs working in their Inspiron 6400s. So, do the signs point to the drive being bad, or is there something obvious I am not doing in order to make it work?
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Oct 17, 2012 20:38
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BadBeatsCrewDerk posted:Ostensibly this brand of drive does work, and people are able to get SSDs working in their Inspiron 6400s. So, do the signs point to the drive being bad, or is there something obvious I am not doing in order to make it work? Old ssd, works in machine 1 but not(?) in laptop? New ssd, does not work in machine 1 nor in laptop. It's not unheard of that ssds are broken, i bought two intel 520s where the first one worked fine and the second didn't. I was lucky enough to have two identical drives to test in different machines, not that the support-guy really trusted my findings anyway, and were finally allowed to rma it.
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Oct 17, 2012 20:41
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Whats the word on SSDs in high temperature(45C+) environments?
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Oct 17, 2012 21:20
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Alereon posted:This is a garbage drive using an ancient Toshiba controller that didn't work properly when it was new. When you combine this with an ancient laptop that was made before the first SSD and you can see why this won't work. That drive is awesome. I have one kicking around. 
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Oct 17, 2012 21:24
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Any word on the Intel 330 reliability? Its just the 520 but with inferior NAND correct? We are looking at picking up a few SSD's at work and are on a tight budget but need reliability.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:29
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Yep, pretty much. It's the same stuff, just binned for lower endurance. AnandTech wrote two years worth of heavy use data with worst-case write amplification, and only used an average of 119 p/e cycles. That same article suggests that the drive thinks it will get 6k p/e cycles, at least for their sample.
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Oct 17, 2012 21:52
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Mattress Man posted:Any word on the Intel 330 reliability? Its just the 520 but with inferior NAND correct? We are looking at picking up a few SSD's at work and are on a tight budget but need reliability. The 330 also has a 3-year warranty compared to the 5-year warranty of the 520
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Oct 17, 2012 21:59
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Chuu posted:Speaking of the value of ocz . . . Securities Fraud Class Action Lawsuit Against OCZ - these assholes are getting their comeuppance now.
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Oct 18, 2012 01:23
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BadBeatsCrewDerk posted:Ostensibly this brand of drive does work, and people are able to get SSDs working in their Inspiron 6400s. So, do the signs point to the drive being bad, or is there something obvious I am not doing in order to make it work? The reality is that you simply can't buy an old poo poo drive and stuff it in an old system that was released well before the first SSD and expect it to work. There's a CHANCE it might work, but you should expect it not to and feel lucky if it does, because you ARE lucky. Hell, there's still a risk of compatibility issues even if you use a drive that generally CAN be expected to work. On systems without TRIM support, Sandforce-based drives are essentially mandatory due to their industry-leading garbage collection and low write amplification.
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Oct 18, 2012 01:42
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Alereon posted:I put a I have the mSATA version, but it's better to be safe than sorry on these things.
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warning at the top of the OP about Crucial firmware. It really sucks that they couldn't catch this in QA, but at least it's fixable without data loss or sending in the drive.
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Mattress Man posted:Any word on the Intel 330 reliability? Its just the 520 but with inferior NAND correct? We are looking at picking up a few SSD's at work and are on a tight budget but need reliability. I've been using a 180GB 330 in my Mac Pro clone since they came out, and it's been absolutely flawless. It also comes with a remarkably high quality accessory set, definitely far beyond any other SSD I've bought (I've bought from a good number of SSD manufacturers). I would easily recommend a 330. I can't really compare it against my Samsung 830 since the 830 is in a x130e and the 330 is in a machine with an i5-3570K.
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Oct 18, 2012 06:36
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Phoenixan posted:Thanks for this. I had the firmware downloaded to update from 000F to 01MG, and I'm glad I checked the thread before running it. I firmly believe there is no reason at all to do any kind of firmware/BIOS updates, including SSD ones, unless there is an actual issue with my hardware that requires it.
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Oct 18, 2012 12:16
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Someone recently posted Samsung SSD deals in the Coupons & Deals forum. SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC128B/WW $69.99 It's a pretty big price drop according to the price history.
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Oct 18, 2012 12:56
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Obsurveyor posted:I firmly believe there is no reason at all to do any kind of firmware/BIOS updates, including SSD ones, unless there is an actual issue with my hardware that requires it. I was going to ask this question. My 830 seems to run great out of the box so I was wondering if I should update its firmware.
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Oct 18, 2012 14:17
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Obsurveyor posted:I firmly believe there is no reason at all to do any kind of firmware/BIOS updates, including SSD ones, unless there is an actual issue with my hardware that requires it. Depends on the firmware. I think you should at least read up on it, otherwise things like the 5000 hour bug will seem incomprehensible when it hits.
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Oct 18, 2012 14:22
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Eddain posted:Someone recently posted Samsung SSD deals in the Coupons & Deals forum. I saw this earlier, got me one of them. Hot drat. I kept missing these loving deals, but this is the lowest I've seen yet. Next up, one of them ivy bridges.
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Oct 18, 2012 17:12
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DamnGlitch posted:Depends on the firmware. I think you should at least read up on it, otherwise things like the 5000 hour bug will seem incomprehensible when it hits. Yeah that would fall under "actual issue with the hardware", I would imagine.
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DamnGlitch posted:Depends on the firmware. I think you should at least read up on it, otherwise things like the 5000 hour bug will seem incomprehensible when it hits. Dogen posted:Yeah that would fall under "actual issue with the hardware", I would imagine. Yeah, you have to follow and read release notes to know if there's an issue, unless you just hear about it. I can give an example though: I recently upgraded to 32GB of memory and my boot times went to like 3 minutes. I typically never, ever update a motherboard BIOS unless I'm having trouble. Read through the release notes of the upgrades between what I had and what had been released and find a note about slow bootups with 32GB. I didn't see any other notes that might affect other things on my computer so I upgraded and went back to the 8 second boots I was expecting. Obsurveyor fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Oct 18, 2012 |
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Oct 18, 2012 17:48
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The company I work for was in a panic yesterday because we have a BIG show this month and the touch-screen computer they wanted to bring down there had a slow HD so they had me throw in a SSD that we had sitting around in the office... loving OCZ please don't fail while they are down there 
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Oct 18, 2012 17:52
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Eddain posted:Someone recently posted Samsung SSD deals in the Coupons & Deals forum. Also, the 256GB is on sale for $155: http://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-2-5-I...NK3H1N0KK275EAH
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Oct 18, 2012 18:04
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Anand reviewed OWC's 1TB (well, 960GB) 2.5" Mercury Electra 3G SSD http://www.anandtech.com/show/6200/owc-mercury-electra-3g-max-960gb-review-cramming-1tb-of-nand-inside-25-chassis Basically they crammed 2 480GB SSD's into one package and put them in RAID 0. It's SATA 2.0 3GB/s only, slow as hell, sucks up a ton of power, so it's pretty much pointless unless you somehow must have 1TB of SSD storage and you only have one available 2.5" drive bay to stick it in.
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So I had a very interesting install process on my 830 last night that I wanted to share with y'all. Using the SATA 6 Gb/s Marvell controller on an Asus P8P67 board turns out to be a very, very bad idea and won't let your SSD show up in Windows. Or your BIOS. Except in the BIOS boot override menu. Because that makes sense. I thought I may have had a loose plug so I re-opened my system and somehow created a short that wouldn't let me boot. I unplugged everything trying to figure out what went wrong and was pretty sure I somehow broke my motherboard. Nothing worked until I put my case back upright out of frustration and everything suddenly worked again. It was around this time I figured out I accidentally used the Marvell controller instead of the Intel one. So I had to unplug everything and take my video card out again to get to the SATA plugs on the motherboard because my video card is obnoxiously large.  I ended up buying some one-off piece of software to do the OS migration because all the free tools wanted to make a system reserved partition that was 60 GB instead of 100 MB. Odd. I tried using the command line but even it was having weird problems. Maybe I was just using the command line wrong, who knows. The software did in 10 minutes what I had been trying and failing to do for 3 hours. I think the program was something called "OS to SSD Transfer". It was specifically created for these sorts of moves. Thankfully after that I didn't have any more issues. But hey, it was a pretty fun process now that it's done (it was not fun when my system wouldn't boot) and all my stuff loads really fast now. Thanks thread contributors for your posts!
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So you were Marvelling at how bad the controller is? (Sorry for the pun; yes, it's poor, I have an ASUS P8Z68-V Pro and the Marvell controller isn't touching my boot drive).
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