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wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

RVProfootballer posted:

For the Galaxy Nexus Jelly Bean update, I did the clear Google framework trick like several dozen times before it took. If you're feeling impatient, you can keep mashing away at that.

Is that where I go to the App setting and clear the data?

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sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

wandler20 posted:

Is that where I go to the App setting and clear the data?

Yeah, settings -> apps -> all -> Google services framework. I did force stop then clear data, hit home, then settings -> about phone -> system update. Rinse and repeat and also feel stupid for being so impatient :)

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

RVProfootballer posted:

also feel stupid for being so impatient :)

Pretty much. I tried it about 10 times with no luck and thought to myself wtf am I doing here and stopped.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Got tired of waiting and found the file. Got it installed and running great. A huge improvement, almost like getting a new phone.

NewcastleBrown
Mar 15, 2004
The One and Only
I got the Bionic OTA update a bit ago, but after the first restart phase of the update it gave me an "update failed" message and isn't doing anything update related. What do I do now?

If it matters I had been rooted at one point, but after installing the update that killed root I never messed with it again. Could there be some lingering weirdness from that?

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002
Mine is pending. Even through its 2:30 in the morning it refuses to download due to it thinking its "on peak". Then it starts to download and my data saver kicks in to turn off data because its night time. Oh well.

NewcastleBrown
Mar 15, 2004
The One and Only

NewcastleBrown posted:

I got the Bionic OTA update a bit ago, but after the first restart phase of the update it gave me an "update failed" message and isn't doing anything update related. What do I do now?

If it matters I had been rooted at one point, but after installing the update that killed root I never messed with it again. Could there be some lingering weirdness from that?

Had the same thing happen again this morning. I guess it might be time to find one of those manual updates...

Chaitai
Apr 15, 2006
Nope. I got nothin' witty to go here.

College Slice
Does anyone have any sort of tricks for getting your upgrade date bumped up? I'm getting pretty fed up with my Droid 3 since the GPS doesn't work most of the time, I lose 3G a lot just walking around Metro DC, and it lags and stutters all of the time, even doing the most basic of tasks.

I took it to the Verizon store around here, and they said there was nothing they can do, and that I'd have to call customer support. I called CS, and basically got no where, despite bringing all of these problems to their attention. I'm due for an upgrade next march, but I'd really like to be done with this phone, and I don't want to shell out full retail prices for a new phone.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Call CS and ask what your current ETF is. That usually kick starts retentions.

Though, realize, Verizon at this point literally gives zero fucks so they may not do anything at all.

You could always just pick up a pre-owned Galaxy Nexus from Verizon with a 1 year warranty for $230 off contract.

AppleCobbler
Feb 8, 2003
remember that time I was just chilling out and definitely not having a massive meltdown? right guys? guys??? :laugh:
If you pitch a big enough poo poo and explain that you require the phone for your job and this is unacceptable, they will eventually send you a new phone. The chances are good that it will be another Droid 3 though.

If you ask them for an early upgrade, they will probably do it, but bear in mind that if you do, you may lose your unlimited data if you accept the upgrade.

Chaitai
Apr 15, 2006
Nope. I got nothin' witty to go here.

College Slice
Yeah, I don't use my data plan enough to worry about keeping the unlimited data. My wife and I combine for less than 1gb of data per month.

Thanks for the info!

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.
Droid 3 is one of those that gets the $100 off if you get a new Motorola BTW.

Chaitai
Apr 15, 2006
Nope. I got nothin' witty to go here.

College Slice

Mighty Horse posted:

Droid 3 is one of those that gets the $100 off if you get a new Motorola BTW.

Yeah, which is why I was trying to get my early upgrade moved up so I could use that in conjunction with the contract phone pricing.

bulbous nub
Jul 29, 2007

It's ok; I'm taking it back.
Lipstick Apathy

Chaitai posted:

Does anyone have any sort of tricks for getting your upgrade date bumped up? I'm getting pretty fed up with my Droid 3 since the GPS doesn't work most of the time, I lose 3G a lot just walking around Metro DC, and it lags and stutters all of the time, even doing the most basic of tasks.

I took it to the Verizon store around here, and they said there was nothing they can do, and that I'd have to call customer support. I called CS, and basically got no where, despite bringing all of these problems to their attention. I'm due for an upgrade next march, but I'd really like to be done with this phone, and I don't want to shell out full retail prices for a new phone.

Just be polite but firm. Provide them examples of the phone not working properly as well as other phones working fine in the same area. IIRC, the Droid 3 isn't a 4G phone, so if you've got 4G in your area, you can try telling them that you're really wanting to move up to a 4G phone. I did just this and got them to move an upgrade date up 8 months. That wasn't even retentions either, that was the first agent I talked to that got my date moved up.

Chaitai
Apr 15, 2006
Nope. I got nothin' witty to go here.

College Slice

bulbous nub posted:

Just be polite but firm. Provide them examples of the phone not working properly as well as other phones working fine in the same area. IIRC, the Droid 3 isn't a 4G phone, so if you've got 4G in your area, you can try telling them that you're really wanting to move up to a 4G phone. I did just this and got them to move an upgrade date up 8 months. That wasn't even retentions either, that was the first agent I talked to that got my date moved up.

This worked beautifully! I explained that I tried their fixes, did a factory wipe of the phone, and nothing worked. Instead of starting over with the Droid 3 after the factory wipe, I asked if I could just upgrade to a new 4G phone and they said no problem. Thanks for all the advice!

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
Thanks to the guy at the Verizon store finding a nanoSIM, I was able to switch over to the iPhone 5 without a 24h wait while keeping my unlimited data!

This is my first experience with LTE, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I was told by Verizon that it wouldn't be available at my home for a while, but since I happen to live right next to a town that has it I get an okay signal from my house! It's nowhere near some of the speeds I've seen posted here (I generally top out at 3 megabytes a second), but it's faster than my home Internet.

Has VZW been good about their upgrade schedule? Proper coverage was listed as a couple months away, but I'm not sure if I should expect it to be longer.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

The Gasmask posted:

Thanks to the guy at the Verizon store finding a nanoSIM, I was able to switch over to the iPhone 5 without a 24h wait while keeping my unlimited data!

This is my first experience with LTE, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I was told by Verizon that it wouldn't be available at my home for a while, but since I happen to live right next to a town that has it I get an okay signal from my house! It's nowhere near some of the speeds I've seen posted here (I generally top out at 3 megabytes a second), but it's faster than my home Internet.

Has VZW been good about their upgrade schedule? Proper coverage was listed as a couple months away, but I'm not sure if I should expect it to be longer.

VZW is trying to beat their own estimates on coverage.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

The Gasmask posted:

Thanks to the guy at the Verizon store finding a nanoSIM, I was able to switch over to the iPhone 5 without a 24h wait while keeping my unlimited data!

This is my first experience with LTE, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I was told by Verizon that it wouldn't be available at my home for a while, but since I happen to live right next to a town that has it I get an okay signal from my house! It's nowhere near some of the speeds I've seen posted here (I generally top out at 3 megabytes a second), but it's faster than my home Internet.

Has VZW been good about their upgrade schedule? Proper coverage was listed as a couple months away, but I'm not sure if I should expect it to be longer.

They are a good 6 months ahead of schedule. Unless you live in an area where they are having backhaul issues.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy
Didn't they say they plan on having all current 3g converted to 4g by end of 2013? That'd be pretty awesome. There are a few areas I don't get 4G around here, but not many.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


big mean giraffe posted:

Didn't they say they plan on having all current 3g converted to 4g by end of 2013? That'd be pretty awesome. There are a few areas I don't get 4G around here, but not many.

Yes, and at their current rate they'll probably do it far before then. After that, they'll be going after the 1xRTT areas. Remember, this a total conversion for Verizon, everywhere they currently have signal of any kind will eventually be LTE.

ExtremeODD
Jul 16, 2005

big mean giraffe posted:

Didn't they say they plan on having all current 3g converted to 4g by end of 2013? That'd be pretty awesome. There are a few areas I don't get 4G around here, but not many.

I was noticing while driving through North Dakota yesterday that I was getting 4g all over the country side, I was amazed. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they had that goal done early 2013 to mid 2013.

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

Should there be any difference in ordering an iPhone 5 through a corporate store vs vzw's website?

Mostly concerned about delivery times as the website is quoting ships by 11/16 and my local stores haven't received any phones since I last posted about the 64 gig models here.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals

Mighty Horse posted:

They are a good 6 months ahead of schedule. Unless you live in an area where they are having backhaul issues.

Oh nice! I haven't been following this recently and it's a pleasant surprise to hear a carrier is actually upgrading stuff.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

The Gasmask posted:

Oh nice! I haven't been following this recently and it's a pleasant surprise to hear a carrier is actually upgrading stuff.

In the last year and a half I've been a Verizon customer I honestly have nothing but crazy positive stuff to say about the quality of the service, and it's only gotten better. The customer service I've gotten has been awesome too; I've had an instance or two where they've gone way further than they should have without me even asking.

The tradeoff is that I've certainly paid way more for that than I did with AT&T.

ProjektorBoy
Jun 18, 2002

I FUCK LINEN IN MY SPARE TIME!
Grimey Drawer

NewcastleBrown posted:

I got the Bionic OTA update a bit ago, but after the first restart phase of the update it gave me an "update failed" message and isn't doing anything update related. What do I do now?

If it matters I had been rooted at one point, but after installing the update that killed root I never messed with it again. Could there be some lingering weirdness from that?

If you removed any bloatware while rooted, it'll cause the ICS update to fail.

Also, double-check that you're running system version 5.9.905. The ICS update is made to only update phones that are on that version.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

ExtremeODD posted:

I was noticing while driving through North Dakota yesterday that I was getting 4g all over the country side, I was amazed. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they had that goal done early 2013 to mid 2013.

It's been nice. We have a huge oil boom going on here so they seemed to push our area way ahead of schedule. I'm not complaining at all but it was very surprising to see us get it so soon.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.

kitten smoothie posted:

In the last year and a half I've been a Verizon customer I honestly have nothing but crazy positive stuff to say about the quality of the service, and it's only gotten better. The customer service I've gotten has been awesome too; I've had an instance or two where they've gone way further than they should have without me even asking.

The tradeoff is that I've certainly paid way more for that than I did with AT&T.

Having a good network costs a shitload of money, and that's one area verizon doesn't think twice about spending it. The network team at VZW is far and away the best in the industry.

The people in the marketing and accounting depts however......

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

kitten smoothie posted:

In the last year and a half I've been a Verizon customer I honestly have nothing but crazy positive stuff to say about the quality of the service, and it's only gotten better. The customer service I've gotten has been awesome too; I've had an instance or two where they've gone way further than they should have without me even asking.

The tradeoff is that I've certainly paid way more for that than I did with AT&T.

Yeah, LTE has been so ridiculously profitable for them that it's even having a trickle effect in our case.

SpacedOut
Dec 1, 2004

It's got planets and stuff.

The Gasmask posted:

Thanks to the guy at the Verizon store finding a nanoSIM, I was able to switch over to the iPhone 5 without a 24h wait while keeping my unlimited data!

This is my first experience with LTE, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I was told by Verizon that it wouldn't be available at my home for a while, but since I happen to live right next to a town that has it I get an okay signal from my house! It's nowhere near some of the speeds I've seen posted here (I generally top out at 3 megabytes a second), but it's faster than my home Internet.

Has VZW been good about their upgrade schedule? Proper coverage was listed as a couple months away, but I'm not sure if I should expect it to be longer.

3 Megabytes or 3 Megabits? 3MBps is very fast, about 24Mbps.

And, yes, Verizon is very ahead of schedule in most areas.

Funny anecdote: There's a rural tower about 15 miles from my store that was slated to get 4G in August. When they went to climb the tower, however, they discovered an endangered bird species had made a nest in it. Since it's a protected species, Verizon was, and is, forced to wait until the birds migrate south before launching 4G on that tower. (And if I hear another red neck pitch a fit because they think 4G is more important than this bird species, I swear……)

SpacedOut fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Oct 27, 2012

SpacedOut
Dec 1, 2004

It's got planets and stuff.

kitten smoothie posted:

In the last year and a half I've been a Verizon customer I honestly have nothing but crazy positive stuff to say about the quality of the service, and it's only gotten better. The customer service I've gotten has been awesome too; I've had an instance or two where they've gone way further than they should have without me even asking.

The tradeoff is that I've certainly paid way more for that than I did with AT&T.

One of the first things I always say to prospective customers (esp. if they balk at the price) is "Verizon never competes on price, we compete on the quality of our network and of our service."

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals

SpacedOut posted:

3 Megabytes or 3 Megabits? 3MBps is very fast, about 24Mbps.

And, yes, Verizon is very ahead of schedule in most areas.

Funny anecdote: There's a rural tower about 15 miles from my store that was slated to get 4G in August. When they went to climb the tower, however, they discovered an endangered bird species had made a nest in it. Since it's a protected species, Verizon was, and is, forced to wait until the birds migrate south before launching 4G on that tower. (And if I hear another red neck pitch a fit because they think 4G is more important than this bird species, I swear……)

Megabytes. I'm pretty sure it's higher when I'm in the town that officially has it, but I'm also in southwestern CT which has traditionally had good VZW service. I was mainly comparing against the 56megabit speed tests I saw in either this or the iPhone thread which I've learned is crazy high.

The police department in the town my work is based out of had a similar thing. Their huge radio tower has some protected bird's nest right on top which has made maintenance a pain I guess. Sort of funny to hear people bitching while at a jobsite there.

E: Does Verizon still offer the tethering plan for unlimited for $20-30 a month? Now that my phone connection is crazy fast it's actually feasible, and it'd be nice to have for the incoming power outages.

The Gasmask fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Oct 27, 2012

Socialism
May 9, 2009

The Gasmask posted:

E: Does Verizon still offer the tethering plan for unlimited for $20-30 a month? Now that my phone connection is crazy fast it's actually feasible, and it'd be nice to have for the incoming power outages.

Nope. People find loopholes here and there but I think they're largely closed.

Edit: misunderstood - ignore me I'm dumb!

Socialism fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Oct 27, 2012

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Socialism posted:

Nope. People find loopholes here and there but I think they're largely closed.

Foxfi works fine for tethering and costs zero extra. I'm using 20-50 gigs every few months when in running around and need to do poo poo on my laptop. No complaints so far.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

The Gasmask posted:

E: Does Verizon still offer the tethering plan for unlimited for $20-30 a month? Now that my phone connection is crazy fast it's actually feasible, and it'd be nice to have for the incoming power outages.
Yes, they do. It's $30/mo for unlimited tethering (well, hotspot) prorated (so each day it's active it'll cost you about a dollar).

Edit: that's for LTE phones. For 3G phones, you can get 2GB/mo for $20.

WithoutTheFezOn fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Oct 27, 2012

Socialism
May 9, 2009

EbolaIvory posted:

Foxfi works fine for tethering and costs zero extra. I'm using 20-50 gigs every few months when in running around and need to do poo poo on my laptop. No complaints so far.

Oops I didn't read his post correctly - I thought he was asking about the original loophole where you can add an unlimited tethering to a capped data plan to get unlimited everything. But yes you can just get foxfi or pay for the official tether plan if you already have unlimited data.

LaptopGun
Sep 2, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.

JayKay posted:

Should there be any difference in ordering an iPhone 5 through a corporate store vs vzw's website?

Mostly concerned about delivery times as the website is quoting ships by 11/16 and my local stores haven't received any phones since I last posted about the 64 gig models here.

The shiptimes are supposed to be identical between our stores and websites and I've never seen a case where they are not. This obviously does not include that single surprise shipment of the larger capacities that wound up in stores. Order your phone ASAP from whichever source is most convenient.

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

kitten smoothie posted:

In the last year and a half I've been a Verizon customer I honestly have nothing but crazy positive stuff to say about the quality of the service, and it's only gotten better. The customer service I've gotten has been awesome too; I've had an instance or two where they've gone way further than they should have without me even asking.

The tradeoff is that I've certainly paid way more for that than I did with AT&T.

I agree with this. With T-Mobile I paid I think ~$95 a month and paid $122 when I swithced to Verizon. I stuck with T-Mobile for 7 years (even in light of the fact that they don't fully cover the building where I work) because they had good customer service. All in all I've been really pleased with Verizon's service. It's extremely rare that I just don't have a signal whatsoever. Side note, I'm planning to upgrade to the iPhone 5 and when I talked to the customer service rep on the phone, she put me on the Share Everything plan which already includes unlimited minutes and text along with a 2GB data plan. It ended up bringing me back to $95 a month!

My question is about tethering since I've seen it come up on this page. I'm a frequent business traveler. I'm usually away from home at least 2 weeks out of the month and I'm in Canada and Mexico quite a bit. Hotel Internet is universally terrible no matter where I am. I'm trying to figure out if MiFi would be a viable option for me to use for my Internet needs. Would the international rates make it not worth it?

ProjektorBoy
Jun 18, 2002

I FUCK LINEN IN MY SPARE TIME!
Grimey Drawer

Morby posted:

I'm trying to figure out if MiFi would be a viable option for me to use for my Internet needs. Would the international rates make it not worth it?

International Data rates are NEVER worth it. They might be the biggest ripoff in data history, short of SMS messages.

You're much better off getting an unlocked GSM wifi hotspot device and getting pay-as-you-go data SIM cards in either Canada or Mexico.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Yeah, don't even think about data roaming. I used to commute up to Canada from the states every week and in the one or two instances where I decided fuckit, I need a map right now, it would cost like $6 in data charges to call up a single Google Map.

That said the cost of prepaid data/cell service in Canada was enough to make me think twice about even bothering, and just grabbing wifi when I could (my office in Canada had wifi and I would forward my calls to Skype before leaving the US, and usually most restaurants I wound up in offered some kind of free wifi). If you think Americans are getting treated like crap by cell carriers, you would be absolutely shocked to see what goes on north of the border.

kitten smoothie fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Oct 28, 2012

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Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

Okay, so, I recently bought one of those CPO Galaxy Nexus...es. Had a lot of trouble activating it, Backup Assistant wouldn't work, randomly dropped signal, etc. Switched back to my Incredible for the night until I could get to the local Verizon store.

They gave me a new SIM card and sent me on my way, and the phone started having the same issues on the way home. Switched back to the Incredible again. Then I read somewhere that 4.1 Jelly Bean might solve some of the issues so I updated the phone and reactivated online. The problem is that activating online chose my old SIM card for me and I didn't notice until after I was done. I've already contacted Verizon again and they're sending a replacement Nexus, but am I going to have to return to the store to get my SIM card switched again or can I switch/activate the new SIM myself, somehow?

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