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Illinois Smith: Nov 15, 2003; Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?

Bocc Kob posted:

What is that, like eleven times what TNA PPVs pull in?

Well yeah, but then again one of those is a successful, nationally-touring wrestling company with 40 years of history and the other is TNA.

# ? Oct 10, 2012 10:48

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:51

Lloyd Boner: Oct 11, 2009; Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg

So not only is the Tokyo Dome show going to be on iPPV... but every New Japan PPV is going to become an iPPV. Next one is 11/11 with Tanahashi vs Takahashi, Nakamura vs Anderson and Okada vs Goto.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 05:07

Cardboard Box: Jul 14, 2009

That's great to hear. It'll be nice to be able to see New Japan shows and actually support them.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 05:08

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

Cardboard Box posted:

That's great to hear. It'll be nice to be able to see New Japan shows and actually support them.

So long as they leave them up for purchase longer than 3-4 days. I got paid today and would've gotten the last show if it was still up.

Watching a 4-hour wrestling show isn't the kind of thing I'm often in favour of doing at 8am.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 05:30

Suben: Jul 1, 2007; In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.

Is there any way to get that swank-rear end "Pouring, Flooding, Rolling in the Cash" shirt Gedo has?

# ? Oct 11, 2012 05:59

OmegaBR: Feb 14, 2012; Come to me .... and live forever.

Suben posted:

Is there any way to get that swank-rear end "Pouring, Flooding, Rolling in the Cash" shirt Gedo has?

It's on the NJPW shop:

http://shop.njpw.co.jp/pcshop/php/goods_detail.php?GNO=13241&CNO=1

# ? Oct 11, 2012 07:01

STING 64: Oct 20, 2006

Meltzer gave Tanahashi/Suzuki *****.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 09:20

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

John Cena posted:

Meltzer gave Tanahashi/Suzuki *****.

I'm honestly surprised he didn't give it 6 after hearing him talk about it.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 10:40

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

It's interesting to see that considering I remember when Suzuki was feuding with Tajiri the knock on Suzuki was that he had great charisma and presence but wasn't particularly good in the ring.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 15:00

Illinois Smith: Nov 15, 2003; Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?

He's pretty good at being a colossal dick in the ring.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 16:51

coconono: Aug 11, 2004; KISS ME KRIS

He was booked as a surprise entrant in some Joshi battle royale. It was pretty hilarious.

Suzuki beat the ever living poo poo out of legit kickboxers so I've never really seen him as a bad wrestler per se. Perhaps a bit on the bland side.

# ? Oct 11, 2012 18:54

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

John Cena posted:

Meltzer gave Tanahashi/Suzuki *****.

More importantly he described the number of buys this got as "game changing" (in terms of japan)

# ? Oct 12, 2012 00:51

apsouthern: May 24, 2007; Chain Gang Soldier

Another IVP Freebie, this week the Best of Harley Race

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Harley Race vs. Giant Baba (12/9/1975)
Harley Race vs. Abdullah the Butcher (5/13/1976)
Harley Race vs. Jumbo Tsuruta (6/11/1977)
Harley Race vs. Mil Mascaras (9/12/1980)
Harley Race vs. Ric Flair (5/22/1984)

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Related...

apsouthern fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Oct 16, 2012

# ? Oct 16, 2012 14:41

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

Harley Race is a badass. In other news, water is wet.

# ? Oct 16, 2012 14:56

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Boy George and Harley Race.

That just doesn't seem real. It feels like a crossover between Iron Man and My little Pony.

# ? Oct 16, 2012 16:45

MadRhetoric: Feb 18, 2011; I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES

Gonzo McFee posted:

Boy George and Harley Race.

That just doesn't seem real. It feels like a crossover between Iron Man and My little Pony.

Thanks to Bronies, this is probably A Thing. Race and George is infinitely better and less creepy, though.

# ? Oct 16, 2012 18:08

Strenuous Manflurry: Sep 5, 2006; THE END

MadRhetoric posted:

Thanks to Bronies, this is probably A Thing. Race and George is infinitely better and less creepy, though.

http://i.imgur.com/eBYtB.jpg

In Karl Anderson news, Karl Anderson is awesome. I never realized how great he was until recently.

# ? Oct 16, 2012 20:57

Suben: Jul 1, 2007; In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.

The machine gun entrance thing is cheesy but in the best way possible.

# ? Oct 16, 2012 21:00

Skinty McEdger: Mar 9, 2008; I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Karl Anderson is amazing and probably the most improved wrestler of the last 5 years.

# ? Oct 16, 2012 21:07

Strenuous Manflurry: Sep 5, 2006; THE END

Skinty McEdger posted:

Karl Anderson is amazing and probably the most improved wrestler of the last 5 years.

He's so loving good now I don't even get it.

# ? Oct 16, 2012 21:35

oatgan: Jan 15, 2009

He used to just be Large White Guy and now look at him

# ? Oct 16, 2012 21:47

Price Check: Oct 9, 2012

Anderson's been great recently, but let's keep in mind that his last two high profile matches have both been against Okada, who is having one of the best years we've seen a wrestler in any country have in quite some time. I haven't seen much else from him besides his old tag team with Giant Bernard. Besides his general awesomeness (which I agree with whole-heartedly) what else of his should I check out? Anything from the G-1 block matches stand out?

# ? Oct 17, 2012 02:02

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Oatgan posted:

He used to just be Large White Guy and now look at him

I mean, he was large white guy in a company full of white guys for one. Also, NJPW has better workers and more importantly they know how to work with him to make him look good.

# ? Oct 17, 2012 04:11

sigmachiev: Dec 31, 2007; Fighting blood excels

His timing is significantly better year over year and he tends to have good to great finishes with everyone these days. The machine gun entrance is a little goofy for my taste but hey I think Davey Richards' entrance and mannerisms are among the very worst in wrestling so...

# ? Oct 17, 2012 04:47

Strenuous Manflurry: Sep 5, 2006; THE END

sigmachiev posted:

His timing is significantly better year over year and he tends to have good to great finishes with everyone these days. The machine gun entrance is a little goofy for my taste but hey I think Davey Richards' entrance and mannerisms are among the very worst in wrestling so...

Plus, he's so loving animated in the ring, and I like that.

# ? Oct 17, 2012 12:33

Skinty McEdger: Mar 9, 2008; I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

The best thing about ANderson is the way he hits everything with a snap. His stuff just looks really good, even when he's hitting simple stuff.

# ? Oct 17, 2012 13:12

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Watching some old school FMW. What's the story with all the dudes in gis and stuff? I know the basics are that it was literally Martial Arts wrestling where they'd get the Judo boys and stuff to go with the wrestlers, but any enlightenment would be great.

# ? Oct 30, 2012 00:40

Gyro Zeppeli: Jul 19, 2012; sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

That's basically it. They wanted it to look like legit martial arts. So there's a good deal of them in gis. There was a legit sumo in a proper mawashi too, if I remember right.

# ? Oct 30, 2012 00:43

NotQuiteQuentin: Jan 29, 2005; BIG OVER; College Slice

LordPants posted:

Watching some old school FMW. What's the story with all the dudes in gis and stuff? I know the basics are that it was literally Martial Arts wrestling where they'd get the Judo boys and stuff to go with the wrestlers, but any enlightenment would be great.

A couple of the guys in gis ended up being the leaders of early Toryumon (aside from Ultimo Dragon) in Masaaki Mochizuki and Takashi Okamura (CEO).

# ? Oct 30, 2012 01:55

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

Onita's theory seemed to be that by appealing to as many crowds as possible, he'd draw big crowds, and eventually, that did happen. FMW offered judo, death matches, lucha, old WWF stars, jr.heavyweights, a joshi division headlined by Megami Kudo, and the occasional great feud (Awesome vs Tanaka, Hayabusa vs Mr Gannosuke, Funk vs Onita).

Supposedly, things went to poo poo because Onita was pushed out and Kodo Fuyuki tried to turn it into a more traditional promotion without all the weird poo poo. He didn't realize the weird poo poo made it work, and they eventually ended up deep in debt to the Yakuza. A shame, freakshow promotions are kinda fun when they keep things balanced with good traditional wrestling, which FMW did. I always thought mixing WAR with FMW could have been a great promotion. Tenryu, Onita, Fuyuki, Funk, Foley, on top, with Gannosuke, Ultimo, Hayabusa, Tanaka, and Awesome on the midcard. HELL AND drat YES.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Oct 30, 2012

# ? Oct 30, 2012 15:55

Bocc Kob: Oct 26, 2010

Isn't that what happened to HUSTLE? They tried phasing out all the fun stuff and it went under?

# ? Oct 30, 2012 15:59

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

Bocc Kob posted:

Isn't that what happened to HUSTLE? They tried phasing out all the fun stuff and it went under?

Pretty much. BTW, anybody with a passing interest in FMW (or 90's puro in general) should read BAHU's excellent history of FMW. http://fmwwrestling.us/FMWHistory.html

# ? Oct 30, 2012 16:07

Durk Hendrunkqs: Dec 12, 2006; It's useless.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Pretty much. BTW, anybody with a passing interest in FMW (or 90's puro in general) should read BAHU's excellent history of FMW. http://fmwwrestling.us/FMWHistory.html

There are some really awesome pictures in this.

# ? Oct 30, 2012 20:30

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

Bocc Kob posted:

Isn't that what happened to HUSTLE? They tried phasing out all the fun stuff and it went under?

HUSTLE was owned by Dream Stage Entertainment, the company that owned PRIDE. A Yakuza scandal doomed DSE, and HUSTLE was on the decline anyway.

FMW lived and died on Onita. It didn't draw because of anything other than Onita and when Onita retired the company went into an immediate tailspin. Changing philosophy was almost required because they couldn't sell what Onita was selling without Onita.

# ? Oct 30, 2012 22:49

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Also, Onita didn't put anyone over on the way out, right?

# ? Oct 30, 2012 23:09

Durk Hendrunkqs: Dec 12, 2006; It's useless.

LordPants posted:

Also, Onita didn't put anyone over on the way out, right?

I'd say Hayabusa.

# ? Oct 30, 2012 23:23

RealFoxy: May 11, 2011; I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

Onita really put over Hayabusa, Shark, and Kudo. You would always see him getting extremely emotional if anything happened to them, especially Hayabusa & Kudo. I swear I've got 30 FMW DVDs and every single time either are in a death match, Onita is crying.

# ? Oct 30, 2012 23:32

algebra testes: Mar 5, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

But he won his last match, right? That history website says

quote:

The problem with Onita riding off into the sunset as the hero of FMW, was that FMW was still running, and the hero was gone. Onita wanted to walk away FMW as the winner of his final match, and since he had nothing to do financially with FMW anymore, his ego came in front of FMW's business. The lost to Onita hurt Hayabusa right away in the promotion, with the feeling that Hayabusa was not as good as Onita. The promotion had been based on Onita since the beginning, and when Onita wasn't there, it was Tarzan Goto fill the void. This time it would have to be filled by a wrestler who had not tour in FMW for almost two years, in Hayabusa who would have to become the man for FMW.

# ? Oct 30, 2012 23:46

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

LordPants posted:

But he won his last match, right? That history website says

Hayabusa was also inserted into the match at the last minute when the original wrestler pulled out, so it wasn't even some long term plan to get Hayabusa over.

# ? Oct 31, 2012 00:33

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:51

coconono: Aug 11, 2004; KISS ME KRIS

yeah so someone ran a show under the name of IWA Japan:

I.W.A. JAPAN 9/30/2012 Shinjuku Face posted:

1. Kentaro Shiga vs. Punch no Omawari-san(Police Officer)
#Special Guest Referee: Chocoball Mukai
2. Ishinriki and Zack Sabre, Jr. vs. Masao Inoue and Death Worm
3. Taiji Ishimori vs. Chupa w/ Haru Miyako
4. IWA Junior Heavyweight Championship Decision Match: Genba Hirayanagi vs. Kappa Kozou
5. Yoshihiro Takayama and Maybach Taniguchi vs. Bigfoot and Yukiotoko(Yeti) w/ Haru Miyako
6. Okoshi Asano 60th Birthday Match: Naomichi Marufuji & Atsushi Kotoge w/ Captain Kinloch vs. Uchuu-jin Grey(Grey Alien) & Gum Ningen(Gum Man) w/ Haru Miyako

except its not listed on Cagematch.net

We, gentle readers, have a bit of mystery!

# ? Oct 31, 2012 03:13

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