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Hm. Yeah, I can actually see him as part of some double swing state tag team ticket. Like maybe along with Kasich or Rubio (heh) or Walker (lol) or somewhere else they think they can win back by picking a local boy. I don't think it will work, but I could see it being tried.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:This is the same guy that loves vaginal probes right? That might taint him, especially if the GOP wants to get away from its huge deficit with women.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mirthless posted:Realistically, a celebrity candidate who didn't get into politics independently is unlikely to ever get a serious bid at the office of President. I think the closest we've had to a real celebrity president other than war heroes was Reagan, and Reagan had spent years in politics independent of being a cowboy actor. This makes me wonder what plans are gestating in Al Franken's head right now. (man, I'd love to see "Why Not Me" come true)
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Nov 9, 2012 06:32
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It won't happen, but can you imagine Charlie Crist running for President as a Dem? The main reason it won't is that I'm pretty sure he hates Rick Scott with the burning passion of a thousand suns and is going to try to get his old job back in Tallahassee in 2014.
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Nov 9, 2012 06:48
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The only celebrity candidate that matters is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson who has said a few times that he will run for President. Maybe he is kidding but he reminds me a lot of Obama in the way he speaks and carries himself. He would probably run as a moderate in my no-nothing opinion.
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Nov 9, 2012 07:24
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Michael Corleone posted:The only celebrity candidate that matters is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson who has said a few times that he will run for President. Maybe he is kidding but he reminds me a lot of Obama in the way he speaks and carries himself. He would probably run as a moderate in my no-nothing opinion.
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ReindeerF posted:He's a registered and ideological Republican, though I'm guessing he's not a hardass on the social issues.
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Nov 9, 2012 07:54
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based gaddis posted:As an NYS resident I don't really get how Cuomo is a contender, considering I never really hear praise for him stronger than "At least he isn't Palladino" -- Can somebody shed some light on this? Is it the name recognition factor? If Spitzer hadn't whored himself out (literally) then we wouldn't be in this mess. Petey posted:But seriously, Cory Booker for Mayor of Twitter: ReidRansom posted:Last I saw of him he came off as just another incredibly boring white guy. The way the GOP has been running itself, I'm not sure that's gonna work. He needs a gimmick like all the others to distinguish himself.
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Nov 9, 2012 08:07
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If only Schwarzenegger didn't have the not native born issue
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I know I would like it if, following Petey's transition thread, there was a general "Obama term 2" thread for people to talk about everything going on in his term since not all of it is worth its own thread, but it does interest most of us. Is that something of interest to people?
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Pillowpants posted:I know I would like it if, following Petey's transition thread, there was a general "Obama term 2" thread for people to talk about everything going on in his term since not all of it is worth its own thread, but it does interest most of us. Is that something of interest to people?
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Pillowpants posted:I know I would like it if, following Petey's transition thread, there was a general "Obama term 2" thread for people to talk about everything going on in his term since not all of it is worth its own thread, but it does interest most of us. Is that something of interest to people? No, please don't create a general US politics thread. Though I hate when people ask permission to create threads, so go ahead and create it if you like, just don't be shocked if it gets closed.
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Nov 9, 2012 12:52
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Ammat The Ankh posted:I imagine that if Clinton runs Biden won't. There's only room for one older statesman from the current Whitehouse, and Hillary's got the edge in fundraising, age (She'd be inaugurated at 69, tied with Reagan, while Biden would be 74), and perceived capability (the media treats her with the seriousness she deserves, while Biden is portrayed as a gibbering gaffe machine). If he does run, Hillary would win out anyway. This is exactly how I feel. I love uncle Joe, but I think his age is an unfortunate liability and I don't think he has the presence that Clinton has. Hilary is the kind of candidate that even the right would have to respect for her experience in executive leadership
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Maximo Roboto posted:If only Schwarzenegger didn't have the not native born issue Or the secret illegitimate family provoking a messy divorce issue.
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If Clinton runs in 2016, I wonder how weird the furious irrational republican response to the name Clinton will seem to young people in both parties who weren't old enough to watch the news in the 90s. Cigars, definition of "is", stained dresses, Vince Foster, etc.
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Nov 9, 2012 15:36
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It seems fairly implausible right now, but I would love to have Clinton/Biden as the ticket. Clinton would be nigh unstoppable I think on the top, and Biden just makes a perfect VP. And didn't he recently say he was going to run in 2016 at a city councilman in his hometown or something?
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Nov 9, 2012 16:37
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Clinton/Castro would be my hope. Ideally I'd like to see Casto win the 2014 Texas gubernatorial race and then slide in at the top of the ticket in 2016 but I doubt my fever dreams will become reality. Would be nice though.  Though I'm not the biggest fan of Hillary, she'd probably be comparable to Obama as far as governance goes which is better than nothing. She is also hated almost as much as Obama is by my right wing relatives so that would at least provide entertainment.
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Nov 9, 2012 16:43
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Kloaked00 posted:It seems fairly implausible right now, but I would love to have Clinton/Biden as the ticket. Clinton would be nigh unstoppable I think on the top, and Biden just makes a perfect VP. And didn't he recently say he was going to run in 2016 at a city councilman in his hometown or something? As there even been a candidate who has consented to playing second fiddle twice in a row? It seem a little unlikely. As someone earlier in the thread said, there are 70 people who wake up an see a future President and all of their names begin with Senator. It would be Biden's last chance so he's probably going to go at it full throttle if he decides to run again.
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Nov 9, 2012 16:45
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withak posted:If Clinton runs in 2016, I wonder how weird the furious irrational republican response to the name Clinton will seem to young people in both parties who weren't old enough to watch the news in the 90s. Cigars, definition of "is", stained dresses, Vince Foster, etc. Probably about as irrationally furious as Democrats would be if a Bush ran in 2016.
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Nov 9, 2012 16:46
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Surprised I haven't heard any talk of Brian Sandoval in this thread. He's a good-looking, Hispanic (non-Cuban, even!) governor of a swing state, and has done some things which might have broad appeal, such as giving himself a pay cut. Granted, I haven't heard any mention of him on a national stage, but I'd have to think he's a less awful candidate than Rubio, whom I tend to only hear about in the news when I hear about him being a douche.
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Nov 9, 2012 16:48
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Zikan posted:As there even been a candidate who has consented to playing second fiddle twice in a row? It seem a little unlikely. John C. Calhoun was JQ Adam's VP and Jackson's VP. He was also kind of a terrible person, but that's probably a coincidence.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Probably about as irrationally furious as Democrats would be if a Bush ran in 2016. Bush at least has a "that dude that did Iraq/Afghanistan" vibe around the name. I honestly can't tell you anything about Clinton and I was born right around when he took office.
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Nov 9, 2012 16:50
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PPP Poll of New Hampshire, November 3-4, 2012 Asked of Republicans Jeb Bush: 11% Chris Christie: 21% Mike Huckabee: 8% Sarah Palin: 4% Rand Paul: 4% Condoleezza Rice: 13% Marco Rubio: 14% Paul Ryan: 10% Rick Santorum: 5% Someone else/Not Sure: 10% Asked of Democrats Joe Biden: 10% Hillary Clinton: 60% Andrew Cuomo: 7% Martin O'Malley: 0% Deval Patrick: 3% Brian Schweitzer: 0% Mark Warner: 0% Elizabeth Warren: 4% Someone else/Not sure: 15% Asked of Democrats, if Hillary isn't running Joe Biden: 26% Andrew Cuomo: 15% Martin O'Malley: 3% Deval Patrick: 9% Brian Schweitzer: 1% Mark Warner: 1% Elizabeth Warren: 11% Someone else/Not sure: 36% Asked of Democrats, if neither Hillary nor Joe is running Andrew Cuomo: 22% Martin O'Malley: 1% Deval Patrick: 18% Brian Schweitzer: 1% Mark Warner: 1% Elizabeth Warren: 15% Someone else/Not sure: 42%
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Nov 9, 2012 16:52
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Ugh those Cuomo numbers... Hillary needs to run.
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PPP Poll of Florida, November 3-4, 2012 Asked of Republicans Jeb Bush: 28% Chris Christie: 9% Mike Huckabee: 11% Sarah Palin: 5% Rand Paul: 3% Condoleezza Rice: 8% Marco Rubio: 22% Paul Ryan: 8% Rick Santorum: 3% Someone else/Not Sure: 5% Asked of Democrats Joe Biden: 14% Hillary Clinton: 61% Andrew Cuomo: 8% Martin O'Malley: 3% Deval Patrick: 1% Brian Schweitzer: 0% Mark Warner: 2% Elizabeth Warren: 1% Someone else/Not sure: 9% Asked of Democrats, if Hillary isn't running Joe Biden: 38% Andrew Cuomo: 22% Martin O'Malley: 6% Deval Patrick: 3% Brian Schweitzer: 0% Mark Warner: 3% Elizabeth Warren: 6% Someone else/Not sure: 22% Asked of Democrats, if neither Hillary nor Joe is running Andrew Cuomo: 33% Martin O'Malley: 4% Deval Patrick: 7% Brian Schweitzer: 1% Mark Warner: 3% Elizabeth Warren: 10% Someone else/Not sure: 42%
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Nov 9, 2012 16:55
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Wow those Rice numbers are surprisingly high. I hope she at least takes a serious look at running. Alas, no Huntsman  , unless he is a large chunk of that "other" group
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Nov 9, 2012 16:56
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Probably about as irrationally furious as Democrats would be if a Bush ran in 2016. I would be ecstatic. Running a Bush this soon is essentially throwing the race.
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Nov 9, 2012 16:58
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Nov 9, 2012 17:01
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sullat posted:John C. Calhoun was JQ Adam's VP and Jackson's VP. He was also kind of a terrible person, but that's probably a coincidence. George Clinton was VP for Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. More telling is that no VP has been VP for three terms.
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Nov 9, 2012 17:05
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B B posted:Oh god. Those Cuomo numbers. Yeah those Cuomo numbers are frightening, I'm shocked to see Warren poll so well in Florida, I can understand her New Hampshire numbers since its right over the border, which is why Patrick does so well there, but Florida... I like Warren a lot but she is way too liberal for the national stage.
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Nov 9, 2012 17:29
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What is so frightening about Cuomo exactly, apart from him being bland and middle of the road?
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Nov 9, 2012 17:32
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Clinton seems like a plausible nominee but Jeb Bush has just got to be name recognition/Bill Kristol's perverted fantasy, right?
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Nov 9, 2012 17:33
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greatn posted:What is so frightening about Cuomo exactly, apart from him being bland and middle of the road? Think of Obama, then add in not just less of a backbone, but actively stabbing left leaning dems in the back and jumping at the chance of working with republicans.
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Kem Rixen posted:Yeah those Cuomo numbers are frightening, I'm shocked to see Warren poll so well in Florida, I can understand her New Hampshire numbers since its right over the border, which is why Patrick does so well there, but Florida... That remains to be seen. I think she'll be almost Bernie Sanders-esque on economic policy, but most of her foreign policy votes will be boilerplate Democratic.
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Nov 9, 2012 17:55
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Alter Ego posted:That remains to be seen. I think she'll be almost Bernie Sanders-esque on economic policy, but most of her foreign policy votes will be boilerplate Democratic. It'll definitely be interesting to watch, but she was the only Senate candidate in a contested race this year to say that the correct policy on Afghanistan was to get out immediately. Foreign policy tends to be very difficult to judge from campaign literature though. Rand Paul, for instance, has turned out to be much less favorable to the military than I'd assumed from his campaign.
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Nov 9, 2012 17:59
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Joementum posted:It'll definitely be interesting to watch, but she was the only Senate candidate in a contested race this year to say that the correct policy on Afghanistan was to get out immediately. Foreign policy tends to be very difficult to judge from campaign literature though. Rand Paul, for instance, has turned out to be much less favorable to the military than I'd assumed from his campaign. On the other hand, her campaign site is still up. quote:To me, it is a moral imperative to support and defend Israel, and I am committed to ensuring its long-term security by maintaining its qualitative military edge. Israel must be able to defend itself from the serious threats it faces from terrorist organizations to hostile states, including Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and others.
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This is going to sound really superficial, but I can never get behind Cuomo because he looks like a douche. Seriously, take a look at a picture of him, and ask yourself: does this man look like a douche to you? The answer is yes, isn't it?
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Nov 9, 2012 18:59
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Joementum posted:PPP Poll of New Hampshire, November 3-4, 2012 Man, what I'd do to see a Rubio/Rice ticket.
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Can we get Bill Clinton as Veep? I want him in office somehow.
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Gatts posted:Can we get Bill Clinton as Veep? I want him in office somehow. First dude is enough. He needs to the cookie contest and all of the other stupid homemaker first lady traditions too. 
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