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A clean boxing match at the world stage with no lame gimmicks, or tricks - featuring Vorg! This is the best the manga has been in years. Mori is full of surprises. I would also like to see Mori turn this manga around and regain its former glory. So far, so good.
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These last few chapters have been really great fights and I'm so glad that we're getting back on track. This is making me more and more excited for Ippo's next fight. But don't these chapters seem pretty short? I mean, 12 pages is not a long chapter.
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Nov 13, 2012 18:24
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Chapters 993-994 It's still going great. I like this American champ, it's been ages since Ippo had this good of an adversary. Stop with the "America defeated us in the war" thing thou. It distracts me from the goodness.
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Nov 13, 2012 19:05
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Yeah, hot drat, this is the Ippo that we all love. Straight up boxing, where the two boxers are fighting with actual tactics and strategy, looking for openings or tells, things that get you really excited about the match.
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Nov 13, 2012 19:09
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What the hell just happened? Did... did I enjoy that? God drat, Mori, you still got it.
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Nov 13, 2012 20:02
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That was pretty loving excellent. Good logical boxing. I want to pinch myself.
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Nov 13, 2012 20:09
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You know, I think this manga works a lot better as a monthly series. Especially given how truncated a lot of the individual chapters feel. Also, here's hoping this fight starts a trend for the world stage involving actual boxing.
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Nov 13, 2012 21:12
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it'd be just fine for me if mike won and there was a fully prepped rematch between the two.
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Nov 13, 2012 21:52
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Lamebot posted:it'd be just fine for me if mike won and there was a fully prepped rematch between the two. Yeah but that removes the drama from this fight completely. The point is if Vorg fails at this point he's not getting another shot.
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Nov 13, 2012 21:57
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That... was good. You see, stuff like this is why we have battered wife syndrome for this manga.
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Nov 14, 2012 06:57
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I like it. I like the simpler boxing with flair we've got instead of masked wrestler themes and gimmick fights. Specifically, I like that the Flying Swallow has value not because it's a high power, destroying punch or manuever, but because of just how it fucks with your opponent's head a little. Getting popped when you thought you were ok is a good way to lose feeling for the match.
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Nov 14, 2012 10:58
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Azathoth256 posted:You know, I think this manga works a lot better as a monthly series. Especially given how truncated a lot of the individual chapters feel. Yeah getting a batch of chapters really lessens the blow when you get those shorter ones weekly where it seems that not much is happening. Though that doesn't always work. Woli fight is crap no matter how you read it.
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Nov 14, 2012 14:16
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These chapters unleashed a sensation inside me I hadn't felt for a long time. I felt like I was actually reading Ippo again.
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Nov 14, 2012 19:18
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Hajime No Ippo 995 I feel like a punching bag after all these really bad chapters and then being hit with this spectacular fight.
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Nov 15, 2012 13:03
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It is an incredible match. This chapter was just an understated fight between intelligent boxers without special moves and I can't stop reading it. What happened to George Morikawa?
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Nov 15, 2012 13:43
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The only part of the fight I'm not liking is the anti-American undertones. It's not quite as full on as the post-WW2 flashback, but there's still that tinge of resentment coming through in George's writing. The little exchange between Mike, the ref and his trainer is the prime culprit. For the record I'm from the UK so it doesn't offend me personally, but I'd still prefer there wasn't any there at all.
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Nov 15, 2012 16:32
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Eagle is made out to be a really awesome nice American guy. It just so turns out he's a blonde ubermench. And the African-American boxer is being kinda underhanded. And Bryan Hawk was also kinda swarthy and was a huge rear end in a top hat. ...well, the black dude Ippo fought early on who retired and disappeared forever was a nice guy.
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Nov 15, 2012 23:43
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I try to ignore Morikawa's opinions on post-WW2 America. It's his own take on things, I seriously disagree with it, but I think he's totally entitled to his opinion so long as it doesn't take over the entire manga. It's bled out here and there, primary in the seconds' backstories, but they are not the main characters. Ippo and his generation don't really share that same mentality as the people who train them, and that's a healthy enough approach to it for me. As an American, it does leave a blemish on an otherwise awesome manga, but then again Woli was a fuckton worse and had absolutely nothing to do with any of that nonsense. So...I dunno, man. I'd love nothing more than for George to drop it, but I'd rather put up with "waah waah Americans suck" than another gimmick fight.
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Nov 16, 2012 00:02
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Fabricated posted:Eagle is made out to be a really awesome nice American guy.
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Nov 16, 2012 00:07
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Shinjobi posted:So...I dunno, man. I'd love nothing more than for George to drop it, but I'd rather put up with "waah waah Americans suck" than another gimmick fight. Only Dankichi and Nekota have anything resembling out and out Anti-American feelings, so they're youre talking about a weirdly neurotic old man who won't let go of grudges and a hothead. Beyond that, it's almost comedic how Hawk/Eagle are depicted in a way to balance each other out, with one of them being the nightmare child of crazy mode Mike Tyson and Naseem Hamed, and the other being basically Steve Rogers. I think Mori generallydoes a good job of depicting between actual real life nationalities, which is something you generally don't see at all in Japanese media. OnimaruXLR fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Nov 16, 2012 |
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Nov 16, 2012 02:41
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I dunno dude, Morikawa does the same embarrassing poo poo that like every sports manga does where black people have magical muscles and "innate rhythm" and Mexicans can throw special punches and Americans (the athletes at least) are ridiculous ubermench sociopaths.
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Nov 16, 2012 02:47
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Wasn't one of the first things they said about Ozma that he was black and had special hook muscles because of it? That was a dude Ippo fought in the Rookie Kings Tourney. I think only white dude that has been ok was Arnie Gregory.
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Nov 16, 2012 03:00
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KidDynamite posted:Wasn't one of the first things they said about Ozma that he was black and had special hook muscles because of it? That was a dude Ippo fought in the Rookie Kings Tourney. Well, to be fair, that chapter (Ozma) was written so long ago it is kinda like getting mad at Tin Tin in the Congo No, not really. But it *is* almost 20 years old. Mori has had a lot of time to change
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Nov 16, 2012 03:45
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trucutru posted:Well, to be fair, that chapter (Ozma) was written so long ago it is kinda like getting mad at Tin Tin in the Congo No, not really. But it *is* almost 20 years old. Mori has had a lot of time to change Woli was a southeast asian (malaysian, maybe?) who was good at boxing because he played with monkeys. Mori has not given up casual racism.
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Nov 16, 2012 03:55
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Serious Frolicking posted:Woli was a southeast asian (malaysian, maybe?) who was good at boxing because he played with monkeys. Mori has not given up casual racism. Usually Indonesians hate their things being mistaken for Malaysian, but not this time. Yes, he's from Malaysia. Also apparently (according to the wiki) his name is actually 'Wally'?
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Nov 17, 2012 04:12
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Hajime no Ippo 996 Well, what do you know. This fight is still pretty good!
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Nov 23, 2012 18:37
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It's not just good, it's getting better. I'm still bracing myself for something bad happening though.
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Nov 24, 2012 00:42
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Ghost ippo is going to reappear and add to the feints vorg is able to throw.
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Nov 24, 2012 01:09
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Wait a minute, that's Woli's music! 
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Nov 24, 2012 03:03
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I'm a fool to believe, but I'm hoping this match stays this amazing to the very end. Volg is one of my favorite characters from this manga and I'll be heartbroken if he loses, but god drat, what a way for this manga to regain its old form.
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Nov 24, 2012 04:52
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Yeah, I'm really liking this fight. A thing that helps is that, since Volg is not one of the Kamogawa golden boys, the fight could go either way. Volg can actually lose, if only to motivate Ippo to finally go challenge the world.
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Nov 24, 2012 07:47
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Volg is probably going to lose. Volg is only used as a jobber to show just how good boxers on the world stage are.
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Nov 24, 2012 15:20
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997 AHHHHHHHHHHH this is too intense
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Nov 24, 2012 16:54
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Uh yeah, Ippo/Sendo would've gotten hit but they're loving catchers; that's their style. Like 90% of Ippo's fights involve him taking the opponent's best hit, no-selling it, then breaking their ribs and eye-sockets with the opening.
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Nov 24, 2012 18:10
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Dexo posted:Volg is probably going to lose. It pretty much is. The fact that Sendo/Ippo are basically coming to the fact they would lose this fight pretty much confirms their fears. Much as I like Volg, it does really look like he's going to lose this one. Still it's been a very enjoyable fight.
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Nov 25, 2012 04:03
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He has to lose it. If Ippo is going to the world, Mori needs to hype it again with suspense.
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I was originally bothered by the idea that Volg would be sacrificed to show Ippo and Sendo that the World is tough, but this little story is being done well enough that I'm ok with it. I think part of it is that Volg's match isn't just "Oh, he's strong, JUST LIKE THE WHOLE WORLD IPPO!" but that it's getting Ippo to really think about his actual boxing weaknesses.
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onepixeljumpman posted:I was originally bothered by the idea that Volg would be sacrificed to show Ippo and Sendo that the World is tough, but this little story is being done well enough that I'm ok with it. I think part of it is that Volg's match isn't just "Oh, he's strong, JUST LIKE THE WHOLE WORLD IPPO!" but that it's getting Ippo to really think about his actual boxing weaknesses. Also it's conceivable that the fight could end in such a way that Volg could continue his boxing career even if he loses, since he's holding his own against someone who he barely had time to prepare for.
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Nov 27, 2012 03:25
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998 is up. http://mangastream.com/read/hajime_no_ippo/83628852/1
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I don't even remember the last time I said to myself "I can't wait for next week's Hajime no Ippo."
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