Syjefroi posted:Huckabee will never be President. He doesn't want to be, for one thing, because he's making a killing on the sidelines commentating and writing books. And while he may lock up the white religious vote, 2012 was a clear indicator that that group is shrinking... however, Huckabee is somehow further right than Romney on social issues so not only does he basically get the same number of white votes that Romney got (or less, as demographics shift), he also loses more independents disgusted by his social views. Can we set one thing straight? The only reason, ever, that some rich guy wouldn't want to be president is if he was reasonably certain he would do a poo poo job and make an international rear end of himself for all eternity. What is this poo poo I keep hearing about how being a right-wing author or real-estate speculator is a more prestigious gig than being president of the loving U.S.A.
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agarjogger posted:Can we set one thing straight? The only reason, ever, that some rich guy wouldn't want to be president is if he was reasonably certain he would do a poo poo job and make an international rear end of himself for all eternity. What is this poo poo I keep hearing about how being a right-wing author or real-estate speculator is a more prestigious gig than being president of the loving U.S.A. More prestigious? No, probably more due to that being POTUS can simply be a really intense and thankless job despite the obvious benefits. Why stress it and put yourself at risk when you can live comfortably and well on the sidelines right where you are at now?
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Huckabee wasn't really one of the wasn't-runs of 2012. There were some wasn't-runs in 2012 who did seriously consider it and even considered it enough to head to Iowa or talk to beltway media and stuff like that. Huckabee just responded to mindless media speculation with a "well maybe I will....watch my show and find out!!!" This doesn't mean Huckabee should be ruled out. But I didn't see him take any serious steps to running in 2012, or even pretended like he might consider running.
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Nov 18, 2012 06:07
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TheRamblingSoul posted:More prestigious? No, probably more due to that being POTUS can simply be a really intense and thankless job despite the obvious benefits. George W. Bush thought the exact same thing.
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Nov 19, 2012 03:06
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Brigadier Sockface posted:Someone isn't popular. I didn't think his performance was THAT bad...
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Nov 19, 2012 03:51
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Uncle Joe is at it again:Washington Post posted:“If you’re not an Easterner it’s hard to understand that the ocean to us is the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone Park and everything else combined. It is a gigantic part of not only our economy but who we are. It’s a gigantic part of the culture as well. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...s_election-2012
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Nov 19, 2012 06:41
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notthegoatseguy posted:Uncle Joe is at it again: Can we please make this man president in 2016? I just want to see him slap Putin on the back and chuckle.
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Nov 19, 2012 06:44
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Is it likely that Bo Biden will ever have a presidential run? If not 2016 then later?
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ACatch22 posted:Is it likely that Bo Biden will ever have a presidential run? If not 2016 then later?
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Mitchicon posted:Can we please make this man president in 2016? I just want to see him slap Putin on the back and chuckle. Only if it's after he tells Putin The Aristocrats joke.
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Nov 19, 2012 07:04
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A Winner is Jew posted:Only if it's after he tells Putin The Aristocrats joke. That's his acceptance speech.
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Mitchicon posted:That's his acceptance speech. I want a president that does this. I don't care if he resigns the next day, it'd be worth it.
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Nov 19, 2012 07:47
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GQ asked Marco Rubio some questions. Here are my favorites.quote:GQ: How old do you think the Earth is?
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Nov 19, 2012 16:26
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I'm glad that saying "I'm actually retarded and don't understand how to empirically determine an answer to a question by using evidence" is an acceptable answer for conservatives.
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Nov 19, 2012 16:38
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Marco Rubio posted:The only guy that speaks at any sort of depth is, in my mind, Eminem.
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It is worth pointing out that 68% of Iowa Republican caucus voters believe the Earth was created in six days.
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Nov 19, 2012 17:11
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Sylink posted:I'm glad that saying "I'm actually retarded and don't understand how to empirically determine an answer to a question by using evidence" is an acceptable answer for conservatives. Saying "there are multiple sources of authority on that particular topic" is a pretty good median ground and solid answer. e: also, in that above poll, a plurality of respondents don't think or are unsure that Genesis and science are in conflict with one another
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Nov 19, 2012 17:27
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Saying "there are multiple sources of authority on that particular topic" is a pretty good median ground and solid answer. Well yeah, if you're an idiot and/or trying to win the votes of idiots.
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Nov 19, 2012 17:29
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Saying "there are multiple sources of authority on that particular topic" is a pretty good median ground and solid answer. It literally takes one college level geology class to disprove creationism and young earth theory. One loving geology class.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Saying "there are multiple sources of authority on that particular topic" is a pretty good median ground and solid answer.  at the thought of a Cuban President before awesome-superior Mejicanos win the White House.
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Nov 19, 2012 17:32
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A Winner is Jew posted:It literally takes one college level geology class to disprove creationism and young earth theory. and one theology class to disprove the other e: don't take this post as advocacy of the stance
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ManifunkDestiny posted:and one theology class to disprove the other
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ManifunkDestiny posted:and one theology class to disprove the other That's not how theology as an academic discipline works.
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Bryter posted:Presidential material right there folks. e: Oops, never mind.
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Nov 19, 2012 17:43
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Kinda disappointed Rubio's answer didn't include C.R.E.A.M. by Wu Tang. Super-PAC dolla dolla bill ya'll.
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BGrifter posted:Kinda disappointed Rubio's answer didn't include C.R.E.A.M. by Wu Tang. Super-PAC dolla dolla bill ya'll. Or a certain song invoking the mystery of magnetism. That's what went through my head reading his answer.
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Sylink posted:I'm glad that saying "I'm actually retarded and don't understand how to empirically determine an answer to a question by using evidence" is an acceptable answer for conservatives. That question has never been about what people literally think is true. It has always been about what cultural forces they are aligned with.
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:That question has never been about what people literally think is true. It has always been about what cultural forces they are aligned with. It's basically a religious dogwhistle.
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:That question has never been about what people literally think is true. It has always been about what cultural forces they are aligned with. Its great because he dodged the question by giving an answer to a completely different one. The Apollo missions happened people and they confirmed the age of the earth. He could have given a simple answer to make it a non-issue but instead decided to prattle on to please the old grandma in oklahoma reading that article.
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Sylink posted:Its great because he dodged the question by giving an answer to a completely different one. No, he answered the question by putting a lampshade on the implicit question and answering that. The question really had nothing to do with the age of the earth.
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Sylink posted:Its great because he dodged the question by giving an answer to a completely different one. Well that's kink of Rubio's thing. Real smooth talker.
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So I asked this question earlier, but it was answered as if I said Joe not Bo. I was wondering if BO Biden will think about running in the near future, Joe's son that's been in the military. edit: And apparently it's spelled Beau, not Bo.
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And actually, his real name is Joe Biden. "Beau" is a nickname given to distinguish him from his father. He'll probably run for Governor or Senator next time there's an opportunity. 2016 would be too soon for a national campaign, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him try later.
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I don't know of many candidates who've run on their experience as Attorney General of a state. Not that that is a bad or a do-nothing position. In most states it probably is an elected position. But they're low profile races that are essentially appointing administrators of a major state function, and the only reason anyone knows who he is is because he's sometimes on TV and he is the son of Joe. At least Governors can use their position to say "Look at how well my state has done, and what I can do if my policies are applied to the nation"
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't know of many candidates who've run on their experience as Attorney General of a state. Not that that is a bad or a do-nothing position. In most states it probably is an elected position. But they're low profile races that are essentially appointing administrators of a major state function, and the only reason anyone knows who he is is because he's sometimes on TV and he is the son of Joe. At least Governors can use their position to say "Look at how well my state has done, and what I can do if my policies are applied to the nation"
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ufarn posted:I think Spitzer's record as AG would have made him incredibly likely to be nominated, were it not for his gently caress-ups as governor. I can't think of another half-credible national guy that I would hit the streets for. If we see another financial disaster this term, and the conservatives' answer is for Caliph Santorum to take us back to the Roman Denarius and daughter-trading, Spitzer would have an excellent shot no matter what the hell our low-functioning autistic media says about anything. All the bullshit fake-moralizing is on the right, Democrats just want their officials to do a good job so they can leave things the hell alone between elections.
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agarjogger posted:I can't think of another half-credible national guy that I would hit the streets for. If we see another financial disaster this term, and the conservatives' answer is for Caliph Santorum to take us back to the Roman Denarius and daughter-trading, Spitzer would have an excellent shot no matter what the hell our low-functioning autistic media says about anything. All the bullshit fake-moralizing is on the right, Democrats just want their officials to do a good job so they can leave things the hell alone between elections. Maybe he could put himself forward as a replacement for Cuomo, if he runs. Even Anthony Weiner - who's hosed up to a much higher degree than Spitzer - seems to be trying to revitalize his career. But hey, it's hard to know where our predictions and political fan fiction begin and end. As I understand, though, Spitzer was pretty poo poo at negotiating as governor, and I'm sure Republicans aren't better to work with since his tenure. But anything but Cuomo seems acceptable.
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A Winner is Jew posted:It literally takes one college level geology class to disprove creationism and young earth theory.
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't know of many candidates who've run on their experience as Attorney General of a state. Not that that is a bad or a do-nothing position. In most states it probably is an elected position. But they're low profile races that are essentially appointing administrators of a major state function, and the only reason anyone knows who he is is because he's sometimes on TV and he is the son of Joe. At least Governors can use their position to say "Look at how well my state has done, and what I can do if my policies are applied to the nation" I've heard Kamala Harris mentioned by some people as a possible nominee. She doesn't seem too bad to me but she would face a lot of problems with name recognition among non-Californians and people who didn't pay attention to the settlement last year.
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