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Shaggar posted:web "development" is bad. thats all there is to it. no that's java development
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it's amazing how much ingenuity goes into taking the few bits of web programming that work reasonably well and using them to build workarounds for everything else
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Nov 27, 2012 22:14
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websockets are a great idea if you're stuck behind a retard firewall that only passes port 80 and you're too much of a pussy to go down to IT and throw your weight around.
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Nov 27, 2012 22:17
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rotor posted:websockets are a great idea if you're a pussy.
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Nov 27, 2012 23:46
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rotor posted:websockets are a great idea if you're stuck behind a retard firewall that only passes port 80 and you're too much of a pussy to go down to IT and throw your weight around. never throw weight around at IT, they're much better at that
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Nov 28, 2012 00:18
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rotor posted:websockets are ... retard ... pussy.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:48
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my company blocks the port used by our domain hosting company's control panel software, so nobody can configure the site or generate ftp accounts while in the office.
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Nov 28, 2012 01:23
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used to work for a place that did that but also gave us 3g cards, heh
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Nov 28, 2012 01:24
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literally nothing else is blocked, content-wise. it's pretty weird.
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Nov 28, 2012 01:31
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duTrieux. posted:my company blocks the port used by our domain hosting company's control panel software, so nobody can configure the site or generate ftp accounts while in the office. Is the network person rabid?
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Nov 28, 2012 01:43
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This is why anyone who works in IT should have their own VPS to tunnel through.
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Nov 28, 2012 02:39
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Zombywuf posted:This is why anyone who works in IT should have their own VPS to tunnel through.
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Nov 28, 2012 02:48
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but if you're in IT all you need to do is google "how to kill yourself" and then its not a big issue any more
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Nov 28, 2012 03:36
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Jonny 290 posted:but if you're in IT all you need to do is google "how to kill yourself" and then its not a big issue any more pretty much at least in a small enterprise if its a large business, you are happy to be in IT because YAY AMERICAN DOLLAR *headbobs*
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Nov 28, 2012 03:37
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my goal in life: get away from the cost centers its hell
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Nov 28, 2012 03:39
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Jonny 290 posted:my goal in life: get away from the cost centers yeh, agreed
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Nov 28, 2012 03:50
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Jonny 290 posted:my goal in life: get away from the cost centers working in a direct revenue role owns; client's happy, everyone heaps praise on me and my team
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Nov 28, 2012 03:50
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Cocoa Crispies posted:working in a direct revenue role owns; client's happy, everyone heaps praise on me and my team This, and bonuses (boni?)
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Nov 28, 2012 04:30
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MrMoo posted:Is the network person rabid? okay, so technically it's not my company that's blocking the port, it's the parent company which operates out of an entirely different state. so the parent company is blocking our ability to admin our own domain name from our office.
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Nov 28, 2012 05:00
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(the parent company of the parent company is based in a third state.)
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Nov 28, 2012 05:01
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duTrieux. posted:okay, so technically it's not my company that's blocking the port, it's the parent company which operates out of an entirely different state. does your guys' parent company also monitor/have direct control of your office's thermostat?
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Nov 28, 2012 05:02
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so throw it up the chute and give two options - a separate VLAN for admin or custom ACLs for staff who need it. third option demand compensation for using personal assets to do so. comedy option, maybe managers should manage their staff instead of IT central
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Nov 28, 2012 05:03
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rotor posted:websockets are a great idea if you're stuck behind a retard firewall that only passes port 80 and you're too much of a pussy to go down to IT and throw your weight around. man the thing i'm working on waould be wayyy easier if it wasn't a webapp. Browsers just aren't good platforms for applications. They just aren't.
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Nov 28, 2012 05:12
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Funnehman posted:does your guys' parent company also monitor/have direct control of your office's thermostat? soon, probably 
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Ronald Raiden posted:man the thing i'm working on waould be wayyy easier if it wasn't a webapp. Browsers just aren't good platforms for applications. They just aren't. with websockets, we're finally at pairity with client/server apps from the mid-90s! it is truly a golden age.
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Nov 28, 2012 05:59
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Ronald Raiden posted:Browsers just aren't good platforms for applications. this is like the modern day equivalent of being a luddite
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Nov 28, 2012 07:52
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advantages web apps have over desktop apps: 1) users dont need to install them 2) ... ???
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Nov 28, 2012 08:19
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b) they don't crash to desktop
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Nov 28, 2012 08:23
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rotor posted:advantages web apps have over desktop apps: the others I can think of are "users don't have to update them" and "u can use em on tablets" idk man. Well ill keep making this one cuz im getting paid for it and I like some of the other parts. I like the backend, im a backend guy. Rear end, they say. butts.
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Nov 28, 2012 08:25
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Win8 Hetro Experie posted:b) they don't crash to desktop man have you even used firefox??
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Nov 28, 2012 08:26
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rotor posted:advantages web apps have over desktop apps: OS independence i guess instead you get to deal with browser quirks
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Nov 28, 2012 08:26
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Ronald Raiden posted:the others I can think of are "users don't have to update them" and "u can use em on tablets" autoupdating desktop apps were a solved problem in 1998 pretty sure you can use native apps on tablets but dont quote me on that
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Nov 28, 2012 08:26
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think of the amoutn of power used around the world to compile and execute poo poo like java every single loving time instead of doing it once and distrubiting efficient executables
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Nov 28, 2012 08:31
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rotor posted:man have you even used firefox?? L-O-L, firefox lolfox but seriously now, if a web app doesn't work you don't have to post your full computer specs on forums just to get some vague suggestions on things you can try to do to fix your problem from some 15-year old IT pros you just need to chill and wait it out
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Nov 28, 2012 08:46
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Win8 Hetro Experie posted:but seriously now, if a web app doesn't work you don't have to post your full computer specs on forums just to get some vague suggestions on things you can try to do to fix your problem from some 15-year old IT pros this is only a thing with games though
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Nov 28, 2012 08:49
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rotor posted:autoupdating desktop apps were a solved problem in 1998 except that the user can interfere with this. have they solved the user problem yet
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Nov 28, 2012 09:02
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Deacon of Delicious posted:except that the user can interfere with this. have they solved the user problem yet sure. you can just refuse to run it if an up-to-date check fails.
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Nov 28, 2012 09:03
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rotor posted:sure. you can just refuse to run it if an up-to-date check fails. but then the user will complain, often quite loudly
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Nov 28, 2012 09:04
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Deacon of Delicious posted:but then the user will complain, often quite loudly and then you're at parity with all other users.
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did I say users? I meant lusers.
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