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lusers, heh e: damnit rotor
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 09:48 |
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Win8 Hetro Experie posted:15-year old IT pro mods
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 10:00 |
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rotor posted:advantages web apps have over desktop apps: 2) monetization via advertising. a lot of native mobile apps do this now, of course, but it's rare in desktop apps and users are much, much less receptive to it than they are to ads in web or mobile apps because it's not ubiquitous. this is a HUGE aspect of web apps. users generally expect web apps to be free, or at least start out free, because of it. honestly, i think this is the greatest difference between web and desktop apps nowadays. 3) portability. i'm not just talking about app portability; i'm also talking about data portability. if you have a bunch of word docs sitting on your desktop at home, it's much more work to set up dropbox or, let's be more realistic for the majority of users, email it to yourself than it is to just use a web app like google docs that handles that for you. sure, there's efforts like icloud for developers to make data portability easy in desktop applications (without requiring things like dropbox), but users don't (and can't, at the moment) expect it from desktop apps of course the entire concept of a "desktop app" is already somewhat deprecated since we probably won't have, like, desktops in 10 or 20 years. now, if you want to talk about web apps versus native apps on tablets and phones, then the lines become way more blurred because 80% of those apps are built to sync with services like icloud and have advertising-based monetization. of course, like half of those apps are just wrappers around a uiwebview abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Nov 28, 2012 |
# ? Nov 28, 2012 10:29 |
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yes, lets trust the 18 year old best buy dropout about shipping software
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 11:28 |
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MononcQc posted:Your regular browser won't allow that many concurrent connections per host. IE7 and other older browsers allow 2, IE8 allows 6, Chrome goes for 6, FF for 8 and used to be 4, etc. please keep your technical discussion out of the vague programming platitude slapfight thread
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 11:54 |
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rotor posted:websockets are a great idea if you're stuck behind a retard firewall that only passes port 80 and you're too much of a pussy to go down to IT and throw your weight around. are there seriously companies where IT policy restricts development because lmao i would raise all manner of hell
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 11:58 |
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rotor posted:this is only a thing with games though yea I guess that's true, but what other desktop apps normal people put on their computers frequently, photoshop maybe?
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 12:00 |
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TURBO BUTTON posted:are there seriously companies where IT policy restricts development because lmao i would raise all manner of hell And you'd be fired for your negative attitude.
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 12:42 |
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TURBO BUTTON posted:please keep your technical discussion out of the vague programming platitude slapfight thread ain't a better place for serious posting than a place where you shouldn't.
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 12:49 |
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TURBO BUTTON posted:are there seriously companies where IT policy restricts development because lmao i would raise all manner of hell i have worked in several places where a firewall restricts everything except http-related connections, and at one place where there was not supposed to be any access to outside world at all. we could only use vpn to connect to our vcs and build cluster. naturally we were not allowed to use any non-approved hardware there as well but nobody actually gave a poo poo so we brought in our own laptops and used wifi to browse the web. yeah, i'd say not being able to google poo poo kinda restricted development. any time i've had non-admin user account on my work machine, i have been given local admin rights the same day. i don't even mind using windows on a normal user account, as long as i have the possibility to run something as administrator.
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 13:17 |
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echinopsis posted:think of the amoutn of power used around the world to compile and execute poo poo like java every single loving time yeah that's not how java works
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 13:38 |
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TURBO BUTTON posted:are there seriously companies where IT policy restricts development because lmao i would raise all manner of hell i have zero (0) ports through which i may communicate directly with an external internet device there's one way out, one port, and it's the proxy. dns is internal and locked down fun fact: we can't set up our VPNs here at work because there's no external network and it won't work through the internal wifi. so we have to set it up and drive down to starbucks 2 test
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 16:14 |
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Win8 Hetro Experie posted:yea I guess that's true, but what other desktop apps normal people put on their computers frequently none, anymore. because webapps are like the kudzu of computers
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 16:28 |
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rotor posted:webapps are like the kudzu of computers stealin dis
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 16:39 |
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Win8 Hetro Experie posted:yea I guess that's true, but what other desktop apps normal people put on their computers frequently, photoshop maybe? MS Office, PDF Readers (I'm aware there are now browsers with it built in, but may people still use Adobe even as a plugin in their browser!), Anti Virus, any CAD software to name a few
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 18:27 |
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rotor posted:with websockets, we're finally at pairity with client/server apps from the mid-90s! it is truly a golden age. can you websocket to a domain other than the one hosting the current page? that would be ultra lol.
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 18:32 |
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Jonny 290 posted:fun fact: we can't set up our VPNs here at work because there's no external network and it won't work through the internal wifi. so we have to set it up and drive down to starbucks 2 test do they at least pay for a coffee or something
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 18:39 |
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rotor posted:advantages web apps have over desktop apps: 2) portability: i can make the same app work in windows xp, mac os x 10.8 mountain lion, ios, and the tiny subset of androids that have working web browsers, with appropriate layouts for different screen sizes, without a ton of extra effort on my part 3) i don't have to use poo poo languages like c++, objective-c, or java/c# to do the above 4) i can update every version at once multiple times a day without downtime or making users reboot 5) i can make all data in motion encrypted just by only ever providing an https endpoint a platform that supports literally every computer made in the last decade in a sensible, centralized, and portable fashion? let me in on this
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 18:41 |
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you can actually do those with silverlight, but not with html/js/css (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 18:43 |
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large RC/small drone idea: build it electrically powered, with smaller than normal battery packs, install a nitro engine coupled to a permanent magnet DC generator to start up and recharge on demand. ~a prius in the aire~ basically just figure out the smallest plane where you'd get ahead on energy/pound with engine/generator/fuel vs. the difference in battery capacity
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 18:50 |
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rip shaggar he died for web "developers" sins
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:06 |
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Shaggar posted:you can actually do those with silverlight, but not with html/js/css lol
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:13 |
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ugggggh i was waiting to do that but parrot beat me to it rule 31 is one of my favorite rules
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:35 |
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lol the best rule
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:35 |
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2017 is going to be such a bad year.
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:40 |
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Shaggar posted:you can actually do those with silverlight, but not with html/js/css lool
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:44 |
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what constitutes a prime date, do you write the date out like 12282012 and use that
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:45 |
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it's the 28th 28 is not prime, even in base 13
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:47 |
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movax posted:ugggggh i was waiting to do that but parrot beat me to it it says he should be probated until the next prime date how is six hours from now the next prime date
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:48 |
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YYYYMMDD WHOIS John Galt posted:it says he should be probated until the next prime date how is six hours from now the next prime date no don't
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:49 |
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WHOIS John Galt posted:it says he should be probated until the next prime date how is six hours from now the next prime date its uhhhhh the jewish calendar
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:52 |
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Cocoa Crispies posted:2) portability: i can make the same app work in windows xp, mac os x 10.8 mountain lion, ios, and the tiny subset of androids that have working web browsers, with appropriate layouts for different screen sizes, without a ton of extra effort on my part yes, no, yes, yes (dependent on browser security tho).
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:55 |
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leave it to yospos to want a literal interpretation on a joke rule you guys are no fun
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 19:58 |
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FamDav posted:yes, no, yes, yes (dependent on browser security tho). how do i have to use poo poo languages haml + markdown, sass, and coffeescript are p. much the best at what they do
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 20:00 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:leave it to yospos to want a literal interpretation on a joke rule leave it to stereo wires to not let us get all faux-haughty cmon man
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 20:05 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:leave it to yospos to want a literal interpretation on a joke rule spergs gotta sperg
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 20:14 |
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Shaggar posted:you can actually do those with silverlight, but not with html/js/css lol trex eaterofcadrs posted:
lol
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# ? Nov 28, 2012 20:17 |
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aaaanyways silverlight is p. much the worst because you have the language limitations of microsoft platforms coupled with the administration overhead of binary plugins (that don't work on ios, android, or windows 8 looool) and microsot has all but said it's a dead technology
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Shaggar posted:you can actually do those with silverlight, but not with html/js/css lmbo
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:
love the parrot
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