|
WHOIS John Galt posted:is java a linux? this is important no. of course not
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 19:30
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 22:37 |
|
|
asp.net is just profoundly loving awful use a web "framework" that doesn't get in your way too much, i'd say some sort of templating system and a url routing system and that's about it, probably add some Dependency Injection as well if that makes sense for your language. So yeah I guess that would be Flask if you have to use Python.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 19:34
|
|
|
also java is open source therefore it is a linux hth it is also first and foremost designed for solaris, which is also a linux it's ok shaggar, once you admit the truth into your heart you can begin to heal
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 19:35
|
|
|
Mr Dog posted:also java is open source therefore it is a linux hth Solaris is a UNIX you are dumb hth
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 19:38
|
|
|
Sweeper posted:Solaris is a UNIX you are dumb hth read up on your canon, idiot. in the shaggarverse unix is in fact a linux, also it's bad + not good.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 19:39
|
|
|
Java isn't gpl do its not linux. It's not even really open sores since its controlled entirely by oracle. This is good cause open sores would have destroyed it with dumb crap like duck typing.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 19:40
|
|
|
WHOIS John Galt posted:read up on your canon, idiot. in the shaggarverse unix is in fact a linux, also it's bad + not good.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 19:40
|
|
|
WHOIS John Galt posted:read up on your canon, idiot. in the shaggarverse unix is in fact a linux, also it's bad + not good. This post owns
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 20:05
|
|
|
Shaggar posted:Java isn't gpl do its not linux. It's not even really open sores since its controlled entirely by oracle. This is good cause open sores would have destroyed it with dumb crap like duck typing. http://openjdk.java.net/legal/gplv2+ce.html woops, java is a linux
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 20:18
|
|
|
Shaggar posted:Java isn't gpl do its not linux. It's not even really open sores since its controlled entirely by oracle. This is good cause open sores would have destroyed it with dumb crap like duck typing. java is licensed under gpl version 2 java's evolution and development are managed by the java community process, not oracle while it's true that oracle are serious rear end in a top hat patent litigators, they don't have the power to move the language in any particular direction. the jcp is intrinsically and unavoidably an open, multi-vendor process
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 20:24
|
|
|
also the new jvm has facilities specifically designed for dynamically typed languages
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 20:25
|
|
|
Shaggar posted:thats cause they're frameworks which is antithetical to the google mindset. lol you think jawn works for google
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 20:30
|
|
|
WHOIS John Galt posted:read up on your canon, idiot. in the shaggarverse unix is in fact a linux, also it's bad + not good. just because shaggar is reaching new levels of wrong doesn't mean the rest of us have to
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:20
|
|
|
Shaggar would you say you have had a positive exprience with asp.net web forms (not mvc)? for sake of enthusiasm scaling
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:23
|
|
|
in simplest terms what is the difference between mvc and mvvm
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:27
|
|
|
dont u c its vm
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:28
|
|
|
gucci void main posted:in simplest terms what is the difference between mvc and mvvm well the c (controller) turned into a vm (view-model) as you can see, mv - c + vm = mvvm
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:28
|
|
|
0xB16B00B5 posted:dont u c its vm i hate you
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:28
|
|
|
SavageMessiah posted:http://openjdk.java.net/legal/gplv2+ce.html horrible. but its also not the real gpl anyways.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:51
|
|
|
also thats openjdk, not java.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:51
|
|
|
Shameproof posted:Shaggar would you say you have had a positive exprience with asp.net web forms (not mvc)? for sake of enthusiasm scaling no.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:51
|
|
|
Sweeper posted:well the c (controller) turned into a vm (view-model) ya basically. your view has a view model to which components in the view are bound. this successfully abstracts the model from the view which means you're designers can write their view without knowing or caring about the model and then you write the model not knowing or caring about the view. then you tie them together in the viewmodel. whereas in mvc you're view still needs to understand the model. you can get the same effect in mvc if you let the view define the model and then filled that model from another model. xaml owns pretty hard.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 21:57
|
|
|
Shaggar posted:also thats openjdk, not java. This is gonna make you cry, but OpenJDK is the official Java SE 7 reference implementation.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:23
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:24
|
|
|
i have a pretty good experience with xaml until i tried to make my app look native then the visual difference between wpf and whatever people program windows in C or C++ and say hwnd a lot use was pretty obvious and glaring
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:27
|
|
|
another place where web apps succeed. how will will you get a clean, consistant look between operation systems
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:32
|
|
|
well you see if you use swing you can make your apps looks terrible and sickly grey and purple across all platforms
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:33
|
|
|
0xB16B00B5 posted:another place where web apps succeed. how will will you get a clean, consistant look between operation systems LOOK AND FEEL DUH
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:33
|
|
|
0xB16B00B5 posted:another place where web apps succeed. how will will you get a clean, consistant look between operation systems making GBS threads on xaml? i thought you were shaggaring for win8
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:35
|
|
|
0xB16B00B5 posted:another place where web apps succeed. how will will you get a clean, consistant look between operation systems gently caress a consistent look and feel across platforms. Make each one look native, Java code:
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:48
|
|
|
Hard NOP Life posted:gently caress a consistent look and feel across platforms. Make each one look native, this i don't give a poo poo that gimp on os x looks the same as gimp on windows i care that it doesn't look like anything else on my OS
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:49
|
|
|
the web browser is a frame which lets the user to expect a certain set of UI and UX paradigms, rather than leaving them disappointed where an almost-native app has quirks due to universally terrible cross platform UI kits
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 22:54
|
|
|
0xB16B00B5 posted:the web browser is a frame which lets the user to expect a certain set of UI and UX paradigms, rather than leaving them disappointed where an almost-native app has quirks due to universally terrible cross platform UI kits the web browser is a frame inside of which the user expects things to be confusing and broken so the user is never disappointed when that is exactly the situation expect quality UX => receive crap => anger expect crap => receive crap => THE POWER OF THE WEB
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 23:02
|
|
|
Notorious b.s.d. posted:the web browser is a frame inside of which the user expects things to be confusing and broken yeah man the web really sucks. bet it's not even going to take off
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 23:03
|
|
|
the internet is a dad
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 23:04
|
|
|
WHOIS John Galt posted:yeah man the web really sucks. bet it's not even going to take off the web is enduring proof that sucking rear end is no obstacle to success i mean it is a totally fine and dandy hypertext system. an awesome one. but it isn't a good platform for gui applications or e-mail clients or desktop publishing software, and every dark corner of hacker news has a slobbering js dev just waiting for his chance to inflict a new class of broken application on an unsuspecting public and ugh edit: you think the gimp sucks now. wait until you see the hot new Phtshp.pr Pro app. it's a yc startup with lots of buzz and any day now chrome/v8/nodejs will fix all the insurmountable technical problems with their product! oh and it's mobile first, because responsive design! and instagram! Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Dec 3, 2012 |
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 23:08
|
|
|
gucci void main posted:the internet is a dad Exactly, it'll die off just like that "Information superhighway" thing did.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2012 00:21
|
|
|
my stepdads beer posted:i have a pretty good experience with xaml until i tried to make my app look native yeah you can deffo tell when a wpf uses the standard widgets w/ no theming, but u can change all that if u really want to. xaml has stylesheets so all you really need is more xml.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2012 00:26
|
|
|
Sweeper posted:also do people really think notch is a good coder or are they all trollin not only is he infamous for being bad, he was genuinely surprised and angered to learn he was bad
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2012 00:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 22:37 |
|
|
if you find yourself confronted with a programming problem, consider using a lightweight framework. if you continue to have issues, perhaps your framework was not light enough? or perhaps it was too light. Either way, it's time to switch lightweight frameworks.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2012 01:35
|
|
