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I'd drive the poo poo out of that IQ every day.
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Das Volk posted:My wife and I stayed at the MGM Skylofts for our anniversary and we got to choose between this and the Rolls Ghost for transportation. The Ghost really is a tarted-up 7 series; the Maybach may be ugly and depreciate like a rock, but I'll take those seats next time.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 04:05 |
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gvibes posted:Goddamit I did the same and was all excited for a maybach but got a 20 year old cadillac instead. Perversely, I'd probably be excited for the 20 year old Caddy.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 06:32 |
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This was on the back of my friends wheelchair van for awhile.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 07:39 |
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drgitlin posted:I imagine the danger is being told "sorry sir, your warranty is no longer valid and we can't say your car is safe anymore because you didn't replace the wheels at 10000 miles like we told you to" if you don't do it. It seems that most of these cars get sold rather than have people worry about that. You don't have to purchase new wheels every 10k miles. Every fourth tire change, you have to get them X-Rayed for hairline fractures caused by driving at high speeds. No cracks? You're good. If they find one, you need a replacement wheel. The X-Ray service costs $45,000.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 07:46 |
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Devyl posted:You don't have to purchase new wheels every 10k miles. Every fourth tire change, you have to get them X-Rayed for hairline fractures caused by driving at high speeds. No cracks? You're good. If they find one, you need a replacement wheel. The X-Ray service costs $45,000. Theoretically speaking, could you just take it into a normal Xray place where you get your body x-rays and have them pop it in the machine and have a look at it with that? Or is it a different kind of X-ray?
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 08:07 |
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Shimrod posted:Theoretically speaking, could you just take it into a normal Xray place where you get your body x-rays and have them pop it in the machine and have a look at it with that? Or is it a different kind of X-ray? X rays are x rays. The problem would be convincing a medical place to shoot one of your wheel. That and spotting microfractures on the films, unless you are trained to read them.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 08:25 |
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A normal x-ray machine is not designed to find tiny cracks in metal parts, so probably not. They are going to be inspecting with a machine more suited to inspecting welds.
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jonathan posted:I'm comparing the current top speed record holding street car to a previous one. Here's how I look at it. The original Lamborghini Countach was a car that was 6.6 seconds 0-60mph and 14.1 seconds in the quarter mile. The last ones were about a second and a half quicker to 60 and half a second in the quarter mile. They certainly aren't luxurious and fantastically unreliable. There are a lot of fairly pedestrian cars that will run with that thing, and for $25k, you could buy a used C6 Corvette that would absolutely smoke it in any quantitative way you want to measure it. It doesn't change the fact that I still want one. Twenty years from now, if the Veyron is as outclassed -- and it should be -- and the luxury and performance are simply average compared to the cars of the day, I'll probably have zero interest in owning one.
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mutt2jeff posted:A normal x-ray machine is not designed to find tiny cracks in metal parts, so probably not. They are going to be inspecting with a machine more suited to inspecting welds. einTier posted:Here's how I look at it. The original Lamborghini Countach was a car that was 6.6 seconds 0-60mph and 14.1 seconds in the quarter mile. The last ones were about a second and a half quicker to 60 and half a second in the quarter mile. They certainly aren't luxurious and fantastically unreliable. There are a lot of fairly pedestrian cars that will run with that thing, and for $25k, you could buy a used C6 Corvette that would absolutely smoke it in any quantitative way you want to measure it. It doesn't help that there seems to be a noticeable number of them owned as pure status symbols, rather than as drivers' cars.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 10:25 |
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Although optional, the X-Ray test is a bit of leverage (and smarts) for Bugatti(VW) to keep themselves in the clear in case of a high speed failure involving the wheel fracturing at extreme speed. If someone were to drive a Veyron to 250 mph and have a wheel shatter due to cracks, that's a potential lawsuit. This way, Bugatti can simply state that the person involved in the accident didn't follow suggested maintenance, so it's not their fault. *edit* Awesome wheels. I love these. Are they stock? Devyl fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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As some may have guessed, I come from a family of car nuts. One of my uncles unfortuantly passed away this week and the funeral was today. I now present to you some of the cars he personally restored from rusted wrecks. The owners bought them out for the funeral convoy. If anyone knows what they are, I'd love to know. His second to last car. I was in his workshop when he built the radiator grill from a Sockington worth of rust, painstakingly with solder and metal, saving everything he could (which became quite a lot) Got a few more to go once my connection is less rubbish
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 11:24 |
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Giblet Plus! posted:It's really a good solution and good engineering. You're just freaking out because you don't like square section tube and don't understand the mechanics of the motion. Wow, you made a lot of random assumptions there. I actually went to school for suspension design, and as I would probably not have done it in square tubing, that had nothing to do with my issue with this. My only reasoning behind this is the geometry of it. And, if you think this is a good design, you have not 1 clue how a leaf spring is supposed to work. A system like that transfers well more than half of the leaf springs work to the section opposite the ladder bar (We'll call it a ladder bar in this case), the section towards the rear of the axle, and highly limits the effectiveness of the leaf pack section in front of the axle. I love watching people get highly defensive about poo poo they don't understand.
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Cat Terrist posted:As some may have guessed, I come from a family of car nuts. One of my uncles unfortuantly passed away this week and the funeral was today. I now present to you some of the cars he personally restored from rusted wrecks. The owners bought them out for the funeral convoy. The maroon one looks like a 1930s Model B Ford V8 Roadster the third, (light green) one is a 1953 Ford customline And what that, I'm all sleuthed out. I know nothing about them, but used to play "guess the car" games in other forums and needed something to do for a while. Edit: Stuff it, I know it's going to be easy, (as it's going to be a 1930s ford), so I'll do the last one. The last one is a 1937 Ford Cabriolet. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Dec 6, 2012 |
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From my dad, the very knowledgable Kit Foster:quote:All Fords, from the top 1939, 1932, 1953 and 1937. Looks to be Australia, probably New South Wales, judging by the license plates.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 14:02 |
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Devyl posted:
No it's these: http://www.purwheels.com/collection/three-piece-portfolio/design-4our/
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Poing posted:From my dad, the very knowledgable Kit Foster: I didn't even see this post and I came back to edit for the last one, oh well.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 14:29 |
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Cat Terrist posted:Got a few more to go once my connection is less rubbish Condolences on his passing, he was clearly a man of taste (and some skill with that grille rebuild). The rest of you, less bitching, more AI poo poo!
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 14:52 |
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Fo3 posted:That first (dark green) green one is a 1940 Ford Deluxe Coupe. What kind of money do you figure is involved in getting a car to this level of restoration? I'm trying to justify why I'm building a bug and not an early ford/chevy.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 15:48 |
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Spotted this in the car park at work: Esprit Turbo, from the license plate. I couldn't get over how low it was. Didnt come past my hips. (I'm 6'2)
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 15:49 |
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veedubfreak posted:What kind of money do you figure is involved in getting a car to this level of restoration? I'm trying to justify why I'm building a bug and not an early ford/chevy. Don't ask me, I'm just an idiot from overprice land (Australia), where these cars could cost 50K. But hopefully others see your question, maybe Poing would know or could find out for you?
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 16:02 |
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Riding through "Gamla stan" in Stockholm on a snomobile: https://vimeo.com/55013936
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Budget Monty posted:A system like that transfers well more than half of the leaf springs work to the section opposite the ladder bar (We'll call it a ladder bar in this case), the section towards the rear of the axle, and highly limits the effectiveness of the leaf pack section in front of the axle. I don't understand what you mean by this. Could you clarify? Did you see my previous post explaining the full setup? Because I half-suspect that you're still assuming the forward section of the ladder bar is fixed to the frame with a single joint.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 16:59 |
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 17:21 |
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It's like the cars I used to draw in 5th grade are real and even better than I ever could've thought!
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 20:38 |
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veedubfreak posted:What kind of money do you figure is involved in getting a car to this level of restoration? I'm trying to justify why I'm building a bug and not an early ford/chevy. I think you start at 30K, depending on the base. Every car by the time Don got to them rated at least 7 on the Sockington scale, with close to 60-70 years of wear and tear added - you are looking at a lot of parts that if you can even get them anymore (NONE of those cars have reproduction parts where it could be avoided, they are all OEM) wont be cheap and a lot of hard work to restore the parts that can be saved. Plsu the amount of man hours required - the two best threads to appreciate the kind of work required is the 1950's Ford van thread and of course Mooecow. Buuuuuut unlike those two, my Uncle was a professional panel beater since he was 17 so you get 30+ years of experience per hour to pay for as well Plus you have to be highly patient - some of the projects sat for a year while parts were found. As mentioned, reproduction parts where avoided meant a lot of time just waiting for parts to pop up. One of those cars sat for 5 years at one point for that reason - think it was for doors on one of the cars I havent posted yet. The green 1940 Coupe was his own car for some time before it was sold to fund his last project and won a slew of awards at car shows - to get to the level of that car took 10 years and probably close to 100K with man hours included. There's about five more cars to post yet
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 22:46 |
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This makes me feel better. Once everything is said and done, my 58 bug will probably have 250 hours of my time sunk in it, and I'm guessing 10-15 grand. Anyone who rebuilds a car for profit is out of their mind.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 22:52 |
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Cat Terrist posted:The owners bought them out for the funeral convoy. That's honestly the best kind of tribute he could have ever asked for. If those pieces of art are any indication, he was a good man.
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veedubfreak posted:This makes me feel better. Once everything is said and done, my 58 bug will probably have 250 hours of my time sunk in it, and I'm guessing 10-15 grand. Anyone who rebuilds a car for profit is out of their mind. Pretty much. My uncle did make a good living out of it but you are looking at clients who spend tens of thousands for results and are just not interested at reclaiming much at all because...... that's not the point. These cars are loved and driven by guys who simply do it because it's their hobby. The Customline I think could well be single owner too.
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# ? Dec 6, 2012 23:08 |
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Ya, I went into it knowing I'd never recoupe my time or money. Otherwise I'd have bought someone else's money pit and let them eat the loss.
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veedubfreak posted:Anyone who rebuilds a car for profit is out of their mind. I think it could depend on the car. You could restore a 1965 mustang coupe or a 1965 mustang Shelby for roughly the same money. But one is gonna be worth a lot more in the end.
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rear end in a top hat Bicycle posted:I think it could depend on the car. You could restore a 1965 mustang coupe or a 1965 mustang Shelby for roughly the same money. But one is gonna be worth a lot more in the end. Have a look at what cars go for the big dollars - they arent the restored ones, no matter how good or how original the parts list is ESPECIALLY a limited run rare one. For the Shelby to get dollars, it needs to be 100% original and in good condition. Next step down is 100% original but restored using original parts. So the restore will cost you say 30K but also be worth 20% less. Use replacement parts and the value drops again. The 65 base model would have better parts availibilty without the Shelby tax so the costs I think might be somewhat lower too. If you start with a true basket case to restore (Think Mooecow or the the cars my uncle worked with) then to get any decent money the work HAS to be bloody good. The '40 my uncle owned did get sold for a good sum but look at how good it was - you arent paying for the car, you are paying for the craftmanship. That's what you need to achieve.
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AirRaid posted:Spotted this in the car park at work: Everything is right about this. I LOVE the Esprit. It's the perfect supercar body shape.
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jonathan posted:The Veyron is neat because it's a 1000hp car with a factory warranty.
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# ? Dec 7, 2012 03:37 |
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Gunbus posted:Some times we get neat things at work. I never realized that these have a radiator and pump system just for the diff. First one I have been able to get up close to. CLK63 Black? One of my alltime favorite AMG models.
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AirRaid posted:Spotted this in the car park at work: I see these a lot in FL, and a friend of my wife's owns a BRG V8. I didn't realize you can get them so cheap, you can get a nice one for under 30k easy but I have no clue what they cost to maintain. Anyone know more about them? IIRC the early four banger turbos weren't reliable but I could have that backwards.
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# ? Dec 7, 2012 04:10 |
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Dunno, but one shows up to my work parking every so often during the summer. It's a really pretty car though the interior is not what I expected. All I know about the Turbo is that it has a PRV engine. e: Apparently the earliest years of the NA Esprit have a dry sump. Wow!
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# ? Dec 7, 2012 04:20 |
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This was an article posted on The Onion today, and I think we can all relate to it: http://www.theonion.com/articles/38yearold-little-boy-posts-picture-of-fast-car-he,30631/?ref=auto
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# ? Dec 7, 2012 04:28 |
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b0nes posted:Yeah even with all that CF. I wonder what makes up most of the weight? The engine? My guess would be the turbos, all the fluids, the 10 radiators, the wide wheels, sound deadening. Everything just adds up quick when you need materials thay can handle the power and the speed. The engine and gearbox weigh 540kg
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Little late from the other jacked up cars, but I thought this Hillman was awesome.
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