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doctor thodt posted:Figured as much, thanks for the confirmation. Just have the person whose upgrade you want to steal go into the store and pick up whatever phone you want at the subsidized cost, or order online from their logged in vzw account. Then when you're out of the store or have the box, open the box, pop your sim in and activate (if you got a 4g lte phone) (I hope you're getting a 4g lte phone if you're getting a subsidized one)
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Bull, are you a root user? I was fiddling around w my mother's galaxy note 2 today, and honestly, the more I handle it, the more I don't like it. I don't think its too big or anything, I just can't loving stand samsungs touchwiz. The font used for all the text in the phone bothers me, the system settings menu bothers me, the physical home key bothers me. I haven't had a real reason to root a phone as moto is <3. And personally I think rooting a phone for the sole purpose of tweaking a software skin is stupid. (To each their own). Suppose I'm afraid to get samsunged. Gah, the Maxx HD makes my mouth water. I feel both phones are just as future proof..the Maxx HD maybe a bit more as there is no physical button to gently caress up. Not to mention that guaranteed battery life. My step brother has a razr HD and I was extremely jealous when he bought that sucker. I think ultimately I'm just upset that moto doesn't have a phone with the 3300mah battery, and a larger screen. I'm a whore I suppose. 4.7 seems tiny after holding the note 2. Bleh
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Just got the jellybean update on my maxx hd. Seems sweet so far. I know I am happy to see that the on-screen navigation buttons now properly slide off of the side to give me a full view when using the netflix app now. Before they would sit around annoying me. The only real downside I've seen so far is that the update brings new crapware you have to disable.
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cuedotcom posted:Bull, are you a root user? No, I've really never had much of a reason to root my phone.
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Dec 6, 2012 14:41
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I also woke up this morning to the JB update on my Razr Maxx HD. Took about 15 minutes for it to update. I'm in Washington DC if that matters.
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Dec 6, 2012 15:33
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Chaitai posted:I also woke up this morning to the JB update on my Razr Maxx HD. Took about 15 minutes for it to update. I'm in Washington DC if that matters. Same here. It's installing right now. in Richmond VA.
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Dec 6, 2012 15:37
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The Motorola guys mentioned that this was a VERY short soak test for them, it only lasted 2 1/2 days really (rollout started Monday morning and go/no-go decision was made yesterday afternoon.) It also seems like they are making general availability of the update to more people sooner as well, I wouldn't be surprised it it was available to everyone by Saturday. Hopefully, this is a sign of a new trend at Motorola and Verizon.
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Dec 6, 2012 16:31
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So, I haven't noticed any real improvements in speed with project butter and the like. Haven't had any real reason to use google now. Don't like that they changed the contact background to white instead of the black that it was before. I do like having a curved back button instead of the square variation that came stock on the phone though and that makes me happy 
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Is the Galaxy S3 on the most ROM/root friendly device on VZW? I'm getting my 4th Galaxy Nexus tomorrow as a warranty replacement, and if it doesn't work out, I'm going to eat an upgrade and get a new phone.
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Dec 6, 2012 22:15
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I've pretty much decided to get a Note 2 for full retail price ($699) to keep my unlimited data. What's the usual timing on price reductions? I'm assuming they won't be reducing it until another flagship phone comes along from Samsung, so it will probably be like 6-8 months, right? Also, does Verizon ever do any sort of after-Christmas sale?
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Dec 6, 2012 22:24
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Thewittyname posted:I've pretty much decided to get a Note 2 for full retail price ($699) to keep my unlimited data. What's the usual timing on price reductions? I'm assuming they won't be reducing it until another flagship phone comes along from Samsung, so it will probably be like 6-8 months, right? Also, does Verizon ever do any sort of after-Christmas sale? Sales never include unsubsidized prices and in general, unsubsidized prices don't go down. The original RAZR and Rezound are still $600 and $650 from Verizon. The only thing waiting will get you is cheaper used prices. The Galaxy S3 for example looks to be $350-400 on eBay by now.
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Dec 6, 2012 22:45
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BoyBlunder posted:Is the Galaxy S3 on the most ROM/root friendly device on VZW? I've been running Jellybean on my Galaxy S3 for months now and loving it, so yeah, it's pretty well supported. I think pretty much all the RAZR phones have their bootloaders locked.
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Dec 6, 2012 22:57
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RVProfootballer posted:Sales never include unsubsidized prices and in general, unsubsidized prices don't go down. The original RAZR and Rezound are still $600 and $650 from Verizon. The only thing waiting will get you is cheaper used prices. The Galaxy S3 for example looks to be $350-400 on eBay by now. Good to know, thanks. I guess I'll just pick one up now - I'm so, so tired of owning a Thunderbolt.
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My god, I am so loving frustrated with VZW it's ridiculous. I'm looking for advice here from someone. Last January, I bought a Galaxy Nexus. It was great, and lasted until Aug, when the speaker went bad. I got warranty replacement #1. #1 lasted until last week, due to the same issue. I got warranty replacement #2, and that one was bad outside the box (it wouldn't connect to anything Bluetooth). I then got my 3rd warranty replacement today, and it has a recessed loving power button, right outside the box. I called Verizon again, and laid everything out to them. They would only send me a phone that was "equal" to a Galaxy Nexus, so an LG Spectrum, or something like that. gently caress that. I offered to use my upgrade (I have one available), give up my unlimited data, sign for another 2 years, if I could get a discount on a subsidized priced new phone. They wouldn't budge. Despite being a VZW customer since 1995, they wouldn't do one thing. What can I do here? I explained to them that I will be cancelling my service as soon as possible without an ETF, and to just send me another Galaxy Nexus (I hope to god that this one works). Do I have any recourse at all with these assholes?
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Dec 7, 2012 02:04
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Wow, they consider the LG Spectrum is equivalent to the G'Nex? Seriously? I figured the Razr or Razr MAXX would have been considered similar.
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JayKay posted:Wow, they consider the LG Spectrum is equivalent to the G'Nex? Seriously? Yes, I explained to them that I wanted something that was running software that came out this year. They didn't even offer a RAZR _____.
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BoyBlunder posted:My god, I am so loving frustrated with VZW it's ridiculous. I'm looking for advice here from someone. Get another warranty replacement. I'm on #4 or #5 now. Get it done, Sell it, Buy a phone full price. Or just use it, I'm back to using my most recent replacement. My Razr Maxx needs JB  Honestly, I've had super luck with VZW. Any time we have any issues I remind them we've been paying 300-600$ a month bill for over 10 years. They gladly fix my problems. You could go into a corp store and see if you can find a rep thats not a shithead to goto bat for you over the phone. Sometimes a call from a corp rep to warranty will get better results.
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Call them back and get someone else. The nexus should be at the same level as the RAZR M. They might not have even checked. Spectrum DID get ICS few weeks ago and isn't that bad anymore. IMHO the hardware is better than the nexus but there is better stuff out there than both.
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Is there any likelihood of getting my GS3 swapped out for a RAZR Max? When I purchased it in July, I was told it would support world roaming on GSM well before the international travel I start off on in late December... As of now the update release is still unannounced.
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Dec 7, 2012 07:32
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The HD Maxx is ridiculous . I'm a power user where I stream radio for hours and hours at work and then go to the gym and stream for another two hours. This thing doesn't mind at all. Honestly for people that are off the charger like I am for many hours this phone is just a beast and I hope Motorola keeps making phones like this a norm for them cause they have my business for the foreseeable future.
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I'm currently on ATT, but I'd like to switch to VZW + GS3. As a new customer, is there any value in buying a used phone as opposed to getting the subsidy? As far as I can tell, VZW will NOT reduce the monthly cost if you come with your own phone. Will they at least let you go month to month without a 2year contract?
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stormrider posted:Is there any likelihood of getting my GS3 swapped out for a RAZR Max? When I purchased it in July, I was told it would support world roaming on GSM well before the international travel I start off on in late December... As of now the update release is still unannounced. Non HD razr? How beat up is your S3? I might be willing to trade my maxx  Flewdefur posted:I'm currently on ATT, but I'd like to switch to VZW + GS3. Just sign a contract. There is no good reason not to, and worst case you can flip an iPhone or something. Being on VZW off contract shows you no positive side. Use your subsidy.
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My mom is considering the Note 2, but I've come to love the apple store support method. I live in LA, she lives in San Diego, so when she has problems with her iPhone I just tell her to take it to the apple store and they always take care of it. She hates going to the Verizon store, they're always trying to sell her new poo poo when she doesn't want it, so she's come to enjoy the apple store as well. Basically if she buys it from a place like best buy and buys the insurance plan, can I just tell her to go back there when she calls me with a problem?
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chupacabraTERROR posted:My mom is considering the Note 2, but I've come to love the apple store support method. I live in LA, she lives in San Diego, so when she has problems with her iPhone I just tell her to take it to the apple store and they always take care of it. She hates going to the Verizon store, they're always trying to sell her new poo poo when she doesn't want it, so she's come to enjoy the apple store as well. Yea but shes not gonna get the same service as the apple store and probably just hate going to bestbuy.
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Dec 8, 2012 21:00
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chupacabraTERROR posted:My mom is considering the Note 2, but I've come to love the apple store support method. I live in LA, she lives in San Diego, so when she has problems with her iPhone I just tell her to take it to the apple store and they always take care of it. She hates going to the Verizon store, they're always trying to sell her new poo poo when she doesn't want it, so she's come to enjoy the apple store as well. One thing Apple does right is customer service, and you aren't really going to get that level of it anywhere else. That is frankly one reason I regret getting my mom an Android phone is that I'm basically her tech support.
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She really, really likes the note so we are going that route. We will buy the best buy insurance plan so she can break it and still get support for 2 years, even if it is lovely support. Outstanding issues: -backup software? If she needs a replacement how do we restore her apps/data? -visual voicemail? This is free for iPhones but Verizon wants to charge $3/month for it? Is there an app that can replicate this functionality? -photo backup? iPhone has photo stream, does Samsung have a similar service that keeps photos, or do I have to setup Dropbox? Can't think of any other issues coming from an iPhone.
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chupacabraTERROR posted:She really, really likes the note so we are going that route. We will buy the best buy insurance plan so she can break it and still get support for 2 years, even if it is lovely support. Visual Voicemail: Google Voice does this and it's free. It's easy to use and works fine with Verizon. Photo Backup: You can set all photos to go to a private Google+ album or to Dropbox or (I think) Picasa. Can I ask why she's decided on the Note 2? Does she have poor vision or was she just sucked in by the Samsung Marketing Machine?
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Backup: The applications will restore automatically when activating the new device, and data will if the developer supports it. Hardly any developers support this, so if you want to back up data, you can either root and use something like Titanium Backup or you can use the ADB backup command. Basically it's the most excited I've ever seen her about technology, and it's probably because for the first time in years that she can actually see the screen! iPhone is the best phone for me, this one seems the best for her, so I'm just trying to set it up so the things she likes about the iPhone carry over.
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chupacabraTERROR posted:Poor vision. We just went to the Verizon store and I showed it to her and her reaction was "wow everything is so much clearer". I showed her the texting app and she loved the autocorrect bar, saying she hates how the iPhone doesn't do it. She also likes how you can search for contacts easier, her words not mine. Not sure what that means but it's her decision. She also loved the stylus. She is really bad at texting or doing things that require precise finger input. She also plans to use the stylus at work with excel and word documents on the big screen. And the note 2 is one of the best phones on VZW right now. Handful of goons bitch about the size, but honestly I know tiny women who carry it and love it simply because its so large and the battery is awesome. Feel good about the purchase. For sure. Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Backup: The applications will restore automatically when activating the new device, and data will if the developer supports it. Hardly any developers support this, so if you want to back up data, you can either root and use something like Titanium Backup or you can use the ADB backup command. Visual voicemail through google voice is flakey at best when you're not full time using a google voice #. I said gently caress it and pay big red for it. Because their poo poo just works right. Its 3 bucks. Whoopy.
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How long has "Caller Name ID" been a thing on Verizon? For 2 bucks this is worth it to me. Wasn't sure how it would work, but on the RAZR HD the caller's name from caller ID shows right up on the incoming call screen, and in the missed call notifications if I don't pick up. I guess it's device-dependent since I can't add it to my wife's iPhone.
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I'm not using a Google voice number and I've never had any issues with visual voice mail over three different phones and numerous versions on Android and iOS for whatever that is worth. The translations can be hilariously bad but it has always worked.
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Galler posted:I'm not using a Google voice number and I've never had any issues with visual voice mail over three different phones and numerous versions on Android and iOS for whatever that is worth. The translations can be hilariously bad but it has always worked. Which is flakey. Not a fan, Google voice has been nothing but trouble for me. Folks tried it on their Eris also, Was poop sandwich there too. Dad missed a few super important biz calls. No good. OG droid it worked alright. Droid X, Didnt work for poo poo. LG Revo, Well the phone was poo poo so whatever. Nexus and razr maxx, Both dont get 1/2 my poo poo. At least with Verizons, I dont miss important voice mails. And we're talking about someone whos moving from an iPhone who most likely wants it to work correctly. I love google and all, But VVM sucks through google. The Translations are totally funny though. So If I never got important voicemails, Id keep it for the humor alone.
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Google Voice has always worked 100% properly for me on both my Droid X and Verizon Galaxy Nexus. The transcriptions might not be that great but I never missed a voicemail and listening to them worked great. I never knew anyone had a problem with it.
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EbolaIvory posted:Visual voicemail through google voice is flakey at best when you're not full time using a google voice #. I said gently caress it and pay big red for it. Because their poo poo just works right. Its 3 bucks. Whoopy. I would recommended using the GV # as your main number instead. It has better call blocking features, visual voicemail, supports call forwarding to multiple devices, and you can easily retain your phone number if you switch carriers. I switched to GV full-time about 2 years ago and I think it's awesome. The only problem I had with it was that it went down twice for a couple hours total. Although, last time it went down was a good year and a half ago I think.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Google Voice has always worked 100% properly for me on both my Droid X and Verizon Galaxy Nexus. The transcriptions might not be that great but I never missed a voicemail and listening to them worked great. I never knew anyone had a problem with it. Funny how that works right? Internet and all that. The Gadfly posted:I would recommended using the GV # as your main number instead. It has better call blocking features, visual voicemail, supports call forwarding to multiple devices, and you can easily retain your phone number if you switch carriers. I switched to GV full-time about 2 years ago and I think it's awesome. The only problem I had with it was that it went down twice for a couple hours total. Although, last time it went down was a good year and a half ago I think. Well recently the app itself crashed and didnt work for how long? Voice is great. And If I was on sprint, Id use it far more. But I'm not, and I dont. And I'd never recommend it full time for someone whos not willing to have it "just stop working" or "the app crashes because of an update for a week" etc. Its just not worth it. At least with carrier voice mail you can always get your messages. But this is also coming from someone who deals with end user consumers for this stuff. Not GOONS who have a backbone of support via a forum. Its just not there yet. Sorry. Hell, I tried to explain the MMS thing to my parents when they first got android. Talk about confusion. "I have to email them? Why? Why cant i just send them through here bla bla" Its confusing and unnecessary for the average person.
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Worst case is Google Voice doesn't show you the voicemail. Your phone will still show you have a missed call.
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EbolaIvory posted:Well recently the app itself crashed and didnt work for how long? I don't think my GV crashed on the update. However, I'm still running Android 2.2 on an original Droid Incredible with a custom ROM so yeah, I'm not exactly running the most common setup.
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The Gadfly posted:I don't think my GV crashed on the update. However, I'm still running Android 2.2 on an original Droid Incredible with a custom ROM so yeah, I'm not exactly running the most common setup. Oh some update broke non JB devices or some poo poo for a week. It wasnt a huge deal for normal people not using the crap for main communication, But it was some force close nonsense that prevented you from using it at all. Again, I dont remember the exact what and where, But fact is it blew poo poo up enough it was a liability. *shrug* Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Worst case is Google Voice doesn't show you the voicemail. Your phone will still show you have a missed call. Yet you're unsure of the number because its a potential client that you dont have saved (happens to me daily). You think nothing of it because *Gasp* telemarketers are now using local numbers. You now lost business because of it because you tended to other things. Again. Basic average consumers. Not GOONS with understanding how technology works. And to be honest whos going to check their voicemail every time you miss a call and theres no notification theres a voicemail? Oh right, Nobody.
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