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Aubergine Mage posted:I don't think Kobashi becoming a battle tank was roid-related like Steiner's was, but I could be wrong. He certainly got thick, that's for sure.
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Aubergine Mage posted:I don't think Kobashi becoming a battle tank was roid-related like Steiner's was, but I could be wrong. Not trying to imply that it was roids or anything. He was never sculpted to the insane degree of guys like Steiner or Davey Boy or (insert Wellness Policy violator). He just packed on a ton of bulk and adjusted his style accordingly, arguably for the better.
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Diets and routines tend to be different in Japan (at least traditionally) so it was rare for the Puro guys to look "ripped" when they juiced. It usually just helped them bulk up and put on muscle. Masahiro Chono tends to be known as one of the more famous Puro we know who have juiced (Scott Hall gets the credit for introducing it to Chono, who in turn introduced it to other Japanese wrestlers). I wouldn't be surprised if Kobashi juiced but even if he did, I don't think steroids in wrestling matters anywhere near as much as a question like, "How many painkillers did Kobashi have to take to survive 1998 All Japan?"
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Really, you could just expand that to "How did any human being survive late 90s AJPW?"
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kobashi used steroids, much like an extremely high majority of puro wrestlers. really foolish to think he was clean his whole career, especially with the different culture over there.
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even the mma guys juice over there.
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I'm pretty sure guys don't use *as much* steroids as the worst offenders in the US, which is why there have been fewer deaths and why there are fewer freakishly large bodybuilder-types. With the time off between tours and less travel time between shows, they can work out more and build their bodies naturally. Well, more naturally.
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Price Check posted:I'm by no means an expert but one thing that always shocks me is how drastic an evolution Kobashi went through. I know watching matches 10-15 years apart will always result in seeing different things, but it has to be one of the biggest shifts that a guy has ever taken (skinny young lion to absolute battle ship).
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Dec 13, 2012 15:27
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If someone told me there was actually 2 Kenta Kobashis and they just swapped them out around 92-93, I'd have a hard time providing evidence that it's not true. He just goes from "Normal-sized human being" to "built like a two-car garage" overnight.
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Kobashi should retire and start doing fan meet and greets, only instead of signing stuff, he chops people.
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He seems to do that already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nFiEQmprz8
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Didn't Inoki get fans to line up to let him slap them in the face?
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I think the story is some fan got Inoki to slap him and then claimed it would bring him nothing but luck, then everyone wanted to get slapped by Inoki.
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HulkaMatt posted:I think the story is some fan got Inoki to slap him and then claimed it would bring him nothing but luck, then everyone wanted to get slapped by Inoki. I thought they treated getting beat up by Inoki was a sign of his respect?
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Origin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVNOgPE5nw Inoki has so much fighting spirit (he nearly legit crippled Ali!) that he can 'transfer' it to people through his slap.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lw8_AKZW6I the best vid
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If someone wants to watch a comp that isn't an IVP freebie, here's 3 1/2 hours of Sasuke at his batshit insanest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KobxeiU8vBY quote:1. 30.04.2006 - Great Sasuke vs Shu Sato - Chain Match
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I think my favorite Sasuke gimmick match was the Weapons Battle Royale with Sanshiro Takagi in DDT where their wives were one of the weapons and Sasuke put a giant barrel over his head and attempted a Senton on top of a cabinet.
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Oh god I remember that. Or rather, I remember being in tears laughing at it.
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I saw a Sasuke match on the U-Spirits show and he's finally starting to look old and slow. That didn't stop him from doing two of the dumbest bumps I've outside of a deathmatch. 1. Rolled down the aisle stairs during a crowd brawl. From the top all the way to the bottom. 2. Did a top rope senton and landed flush on the ring apron.
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Sasuke can't be killed with mortal weapons. Him and Mutoh are gonna have a Highlander-esque duel.
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I would totally get in that line.
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Hell yeah, I'd take a slap from the Jawsome One.
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The Satos are the brothers with the pirate twin gimmick, right?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The Satos are the brothers with the pirate twin gimmick, right? 
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You might have already heard about it, but Akiyama, Shiozaki, Kanemaru and Aoki have officially decided to leave NOAH. Last matches will be on 23rd and 24th of this month. Taue has stated, that they're welcome to participate in NOAH as freelancers. Considering the situation NOAH has been in, this might be just one more nail on the coffin. Akiyama seems to be the biggest loss here, being one of the bigger names in the promotion. Shiozaki is a bit of a loss, but I don't think he'll do well in other promotions due to his age and relative blandness. Aoki and Kanemaru might be indie darlings in the future, we'll have to see. Asteroid Alert fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Dec 21, 2012 |
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Flameingblack posted:I'm not sure I remember them as pirates, but they're the gross brothers who have tried to rape people with pig heads and create the messiest, grossest matches ever. That'd be the Brahman Brothers. Whipping out meat everywhere.
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Scary, seems like they cloned Matt Hardy in Japan.
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Jake Soo posted:Shiozaki is a bit of a loss, but I don't think he'll do well in other promotions due to his age
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Illinois Smith posted:Possible blandness aside (I disagree), how is being a 30-year old heavyweight in Japan right now a bad thing? Oversaturation. Go isn't the only 30-year old in Japan and due to not being in his native promotion anymore, I doubt he'll get any other spots than the occasional "special attraction freelancer". Always push the own guys, then the freelancers.
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merry prismas from me to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruvlM_RZ5QA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_04dEzq8eI
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 Jun Kasai as a kid. He's like a walking PSA for deathmatches.
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VogeGandire posted:
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Jun is genuinely just an odd-looking guy. And one of the best hardcore wrestlers of all time. I'm amazed how he manages to actually combine amazing ring psychology with that much violence. Plus he occasionally busts out crazy technical stuff, just 'cuz. Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Dec 28, 2012 |
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Still my favorite Jun Kasai match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F24xmypSfCw 
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One of these things is not like the others.
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I just want to hug Miyako, she's so tiny  And god-drat, I want that Crazy Monkey shirt.
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45ShadesOfDeath posted:One of these things is not like the others. I know, Numazawa's so out of place.
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