p-lang thread: (now (have you (problems two)))

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Max Facetime: Apr 18, 2009

checker framework trip-report:

installed fine in eclipse but it's got a lot of issues, 2 big ones are that it's trying to retain compatibility with java6 while tracking changes in java8 so lots of small things are broken and it doesn't integrate into eclipse's awesome incremental compiler so you have to run it manually and it's slow as poo poo, taking like several seconds to complete

but the nullness checker looks really nice, giving warnings like

Java code:

    String uniform_type = UniformTypes.get(uniform_name);

    //switching on a possibly-null value (uniform_type) switch(uniform_type) {
    switch(uniform_type) {
    case "vec3": {
      Vector3f value2 = (Vector3f) value;
      //incompatible types in assignment. int location = UniformLocations.get(uniform_name); 
      //found : @Nullable Integer required: int
      int location = UniformLocations.get(uniform_name);
      glUniform3f(location, value2.x, value2.y, value2.z);
    }

and immutability checker looks nice too, but seems to require having annotations for all libraries before it becomes actually usable

# ? Dec 29, 2012 21:48

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 14:00

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

gucci void main posted:

lol

haskell seems cool so far even if i've only done a couple chapters of LYAH, it really is a lot different though

all languages are cool because if it weren't for them you'd be working in a god drat mine

# ? Dec 30, 2012 01:17

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

also stop being a language whore and pick one and get good at it, it won't take you only a week unless you're some kind of idiot savant

# ? Dec 30, 2012 01:18

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

all languages need love, except for php

# ? Dec 30, 2012 01:20

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

and js

# ? Dec 30, 2012 01:21

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

cool i'll let frank cobol know

# ? Dec 30, 2012 01:40

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

also stop being a language whore and pick one and get good at it, it won't take you only a week unless you're some kind of idiot savant

what if im just an idiot :nyoron:

# ? Dec 30, 2012 01:52

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

post post post

# ? Dec 30, 2012 03:00

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

tef posted:

post post post

# ? Dec 30, 2012 03:31

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

never stop posting...

# ? Dec 30, 2012 03:39

HORATIO HORNBLOWER: Sep 21, 2002; no ambition,
no talent,
no chance

This thread gave me some great ideas about how to rethink our web services interface and I can't wait to try them out on Monday

# ? Dec 30, 2012 05:19

Damiya: Jul 3, 2012

HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:

This thread gave me some great ideas about how to rethink our web services interface and I can't wait to try them out on Monday

Rewrite it in php with Web sockets?

# ? Dec 30, 2012 05:45

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

erlang status:

# ? Dec 30, 2012 05:51

Damiya: Jul 3, 2012

Jerry SanDisky posted:

erlang status:

that looks painful you should dab a little haskell on it to make it better

# ? Dec 30, 2012 05:57

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

Jerry SanDisky posted:

erlang status:

lol

# ? Dec 30, 2012 05:59

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

Damiya posted:

that looks painful you should dab a little haskell on it to make it better

i'm a big man and i need a biiiiiig binary :clint:

# ? Dec 30, 2012 06:18

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

it's not that hard. libffi closures handle it for you automatically. just use ffi_prep_cif

nope

what i am talking about is writing c-compatible libraries. i can't write code in rust, install it at "libSuspiciousDish.so.3", and call it from vanilla c just by including headers

# ? Dec 30, 2012 08:09

the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

nope

what i am talking about is writing c-compatible libraries. i can't write code in rust, install it at "libSuspiciousDish.so.3", and call it from vanilla c just by including headers

rust is still in early development but this is a stated design goal. it's already binary compatible with C. the runtime needs to be rewritten in rust to make what you want possible but that will happen once the language is more stable

# ? Dec 30, 2012 08:27

vapid cutlery

Apr 17, 2007

php:

<?
"it's george costanza" ?>

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

neither rust nor golang can be used to create c libraries, ergo neither one will ever be a serious contender as a systems programming language

it's ok not to be useful for systems programming, but you gotta bring something else to the table. scripting languages brought, well, scripting -- no compile step, trivial/stupid deployment. java and .net brought huge, useful libraries and powerful type safety.

what the gently caress do rust and golang bring?

watch your language on this board

# ? Dec 30, 2012 09:24

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

turns out windows forms and c# are easy who knew

# ? Dec 30, 2012 09:27

X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

vapid cutlery posted:

watch your language on this board

# ? Dec 30, 2012 10:35

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

lotta Haskell chat making me feel like I stumbled into hacker news 2011

# ? Dec 30, 2012 14:00

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

Luigi Thirty posted:

turns out windows forms and c# are easy who knew

use wpf

# ? Dec 30, 2012 15:59

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Jerry SanDisky posted:

use wpf

# ? Dec 30, 2012 17:44

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

Cocoa Crispies posted:

lotta Haskell chat making me feel like I stumbled into hacker news 2011

You gotta like a language that saw another (erlang) and said "how can we do this better?" Then implemented it as a library ( :yayclod:

Haskell )

# ? Dec 30, 2012 18:15

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

what's the quote in the title of this thread from anyway

# ? Dec 30, 2012 18:21

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

everytime i get distracted and want to learn haskell i just remind myself that "hello world" takes an entire mb

code:

me@laptop:~$ cat lol.hs
module Main where
main = putStrLn "Hello, World"
me@laptop:~$ ghc lol.hs
[1 of 1] Compiling Main             ( lol.hs, lol.o )
Linking lol ...
me@laptop:~$ ls -l | grep lol
-rwxrwxr-x  1 me me    1050868 Dec 30 13:29 lol

how much poo poo gets stuffed into that loving binary

# ? Dec 30, 2012 19:33

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Luigi Thirty posted:

turns out windows forms and c# are easy who knew

Qt is even easier and it looks the same on all linuxes

# ? Dec 30, 2012 19:39

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

Jerry SanDisky posted:

everytime i get distracted and want to learn haskell i just remind myself that "hello world" takes an entire mb
code:
me@laptop:~$ cat lol.hs
module Main where
main = putStrLn "Hello, World"
me@laptop:~$ ghc lol.hs
[1 of 1] Compiling Main             ( lol.hs, lol.o )
Linking lol ...
me@laptop:~$ ls -l | grep lol
-rwxrwxr-x  1 me me    1050868 Dec 30 13:29 lol
how much poo poo gets stuffed into that loving binary

if you went and actually understood why that was happening it would be a better learning experience than firing up haskell, making a hello world program, and then staring aghast in horror at the file size every six months

# ? Dec 30, 2012 19:43

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

then what would i post about

# ? Dec 30, 2012 19:44

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

let's be honest who has disk space for an entire megabyte

e: if you use -dynamic it gives you the shared runtime/base libraries and it's only 16K so i don't even get what your point is

Opinion Haver fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 30, 2012

# ? Dec 30, 2012 19:45

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

WHOIS John Galt posted:

if you went and actually understood why that was happening it would be a better learning experience than firing up haskell, making a hello world program, and then staring aghast in horror at the file size every six months

I'm waiting for the thread to explain it to me. :allears:

VVVV That was much less satisfying than I'd been hoping. :saddowns:

prefect fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Dec 30, 2012

# ? Dec 30, 2012 20:01

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

prefect posted:

I'm waiting for the thread to explain it to me.

It statically links all the haskell libraries, but I guess there is now an option to dynamically link, so my haskell beef is pointless and out of date :sweatdrop:

# ? Dec 30, 2012 20:02

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

I know nothing about windows ui development am I being shaggared or do I actually use wpf idk

# ? Dec 30, 2012 21:53

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

tbc's ultimate fantasy has come true

https://github.com/ircmaxell/PHPPHP

# ? Dec 30, 2012 23:36

0xB16B00B5: Aug 24, 2006; by Y Kant Ozma Post

its home pages all the way down

# ? Dec 30, 2012 23:47

Max Facetime: Apr 18, 2009

yaoi prophet posted:

what's the quote in the title of this thread from anyway

it's 100% original content just for this thread

# ? Dec 31, 2012 00:00

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

quote:

You can run the implementation from the command line using the php.php file.
code:
php php.php -r "var_dump('foo');"
Or with a file:
code:
php php.php ../test.php

# ? Dec 31, 2012 00:09

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

the phrase "php" has lost all meaning to me now...

# ? Dec 31, 2012 00:19

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 14:00

Posting Principle: Dec 10, 2011; by Ralp

Luigi Thirty posted:

I know nothing about windows ui development am I being shaggared or do I actually use wpf idk

wpf is really nice unironically

# ? Dec 31, 2012 00:53

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