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tef posted:it is possible to abstract away all the ugly stuff with this approach. a json api would still require this work. fortunately someone has already abstracted away all the json stuff for me a thousand times in every language, and even if that level of support did exist for it would enforce an unreasonable contract on the visual design of the site
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shops don't set their prices by OCRing the manufacturer's brochure
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"wtf the picture of that model holding the phone was always on the LEFT hand side of the page with the price inset in red print three inches beneath and now you've switched it all around and made the font blue!! I'm going to have to rewrite EVERYTHING now you fuckwit"
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its only scraping cause its html and html is poo poo. if you used xhtml then it would just be data and you format that data with whatever css/javascript you wanted.
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Shaggar posted:its only scraping cause its html and html is poo poo. if you used xhtml then it would just be data and you format that data with whatever css/javascript you wanted. xlst
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:I think people making these apps are more concerned with getting stuff working and features into their hobby project rather than care about some spergy heuristics fallback mechanism for the scraping which wouldn't even be that hard to fix if something changed once in a blue moon. yeah I guess especially since in this case the scraped site continued to work fine so that's a pretty obvious fallback for users to use. "if one frontend doesn't work, i'll switch to another" all in all a triumph for reliability thru quantity, not quality
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tef i get what you're saying in that the promise not to break an interface is more important than if we get it via some programmatic interface or just via the site itself,. so i guess the question is how would you enforce that promise either way
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tbh I think betamax kept working after the changes except it now thinks every forum has one page.
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WHOIS John Galt posted:tef i get what you're saying in that the promise not to break an interface is more important than if we get it via some programmatic interface or just via the site itself,. so i guess the question is how would you enforce that promise either way :tenbux:
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brb tweaking the settings on my heuristical probability statistical k-means SANextPageButtonLinkFinder implementation
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:every tech firm and software consultancy i ever worked with claimed to have test suites and do tdd ... but i have never seen it in action i'm in a position at work where i get to dictate how lovely jr devs write their code, and my main edict is "DO TDD WRITE THE TESTS FIRST CHODEBREATH" after 6 months of "well you probly shoulda written a test for that" they still won't write tests first or at all really
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WHOIS John Galt posted:tef i get what you're saying in that the promise not to break an interface is more important than if we get it via some programmatic interface or just via the site itself,. so i guess the question is how would you enforce that promise either way and why would you enforce it on a webpage designed for humans when there's plenty of other easier ways of doing it
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Jan 1, 2013 23:55
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tef it looks like some rear end in a top hat is taking your posts (these sound a loving lot like your posts) and publishing them http://programmingisterrible.com just saw it posted on hacker news
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WHOIS John Galt posted:tef it looks like some rear end in a top hat is taking your posts (these sound a loving lot like your posts) and publishing them lol (it's me, i'm the guy in the blog)
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lol oh
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ugh writing style is how the unabomber got caught
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also haha #3 on hacker news. every day is a slow news day
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basically it is recycled content from the arguments i've had on the internet. (i.e yosposts)
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I wonder if the author is simply trolling with the first post. He says: "This myth has many forms, with many attempts to explain the magic power away in terms of some physical characteristics– Programmers who have a penis are good Programmers who do not have a penis are bad If you believe in this in any way, it is highly likely that you are not only a terrible programmer, you are a terrible person too." Then on his Twitter he proudly displays in all capitals "Ｉ ＡＭ Ａ ＴＥＲＲＩＢＬＥ ＰＥＲＳＯＮ" https://twitter.com/tef/
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move over jeff atwood, there's a new blowhard in town
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Jan 2, 2013 05:15
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php is terrible, tef is terrible,, tef is php
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i just followed you on twitter in the hopes of seeing hen-night drag photos
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HEY FOLKS I'm John Daly welc0me back to Whats my Line. Here is the next contestant: MAN: HI i enjoy writing articals about my computer on the blog and i am inable to compute wihtout 7 korean ips monitors, 256 GB of ram, and 12 SSDs in a RADI-O configurations. If my computing needs are not met, I am inable to update my blog about the aforementioned subjects. Also, I am fat as gently caress as you can see. WHO AM I.
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deep square leg posted:i just followed you on twitter in the hopes of seeing hen-night drag photos i'm never shaving my legs again it was so much hassle seriously
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deep square leg posted:hen-night lol britian what did you do to your own language
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I AM TEF @iamtef ARTIST, DIRECTOR, AUTHOR, PRODUCER AN CEO OF THE MOST POWERFUL INDI LABEL IN THE CAROLINA'S ROCKY MOUNT,NC · http://www.iamtef.com its u tef, u are the rockstar
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tef posted:lol Your post on the dichotomy of programmers should be required reading for the tech industry
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tef posted:people are messy. god, i hate them so much
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Jan 2, 2013 06:50
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sig test
as seen on hacker news
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tef please don't be so negative life is worth living
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it is worth living if only to wind up hacker news posters i have a new hobby
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tef posted:i'm never shaving my legs again it was so much hassle seriously yo shaving your knees SUCKS esp. if you have skinny knobbly knees like me
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tef posted:it is worth living if only to wind up hacker news posters a truly noble calling
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Tiny Bug Child posted:yo shaving your knees SUCKS esp. if you have skinny knobbly knees like me yo tbc eat some pies mate
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Sneaking Mission posted:php is terrible, tef is terrible,, tef is php tef is php php is tef
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Luigi Thirty posted:tef is php not if you use ===
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