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I notice a few people have ordered vinyl off Amazon here, what's your experience been like with it? For some reason I am wary of ordering records from a place like Amazon. I normally order from dedicated vinyl sites or direct from the label/artist.
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nomapple posted:I notice a few people have ordered vinyl off Amazon here, what's your experience been like with it? For some reason I am wary of ordering records from a place like Amazon. I normally order from dedicated vinyl sites or direct from the label/artist. I pretty much order any big label stuff I get from there, they are great. Good packaging, fast, free shipping. A lot more reliable than any of the vinyl "stores" on the web like Interpunk or Insound. It's usually black vinyl, and doesn't usually come with a download code, if that matters to you.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 15:30 |
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Neat NPR article that I found on MeFi: "You know why we did it? So a DJ could take a lunch break. When you have all three-minute records, you don't even have time to go to the bathroom. Or you just want to stop for a minute. So that's 19-and-a-half minutes of 'I don't have to worry about a thing.' But I didn't do it to create this thing. I just did it to help the DJs out." https://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2013/01/07/168801120/you-can-never-say-goodbye-to-the-dancefloorc
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 15:57 |
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Ron Burgundy posted:Finished that Ferrero box from Christmas yet? Good. Because the holder things are the same size as most carts. As someone who's pretty new to the whole vinyl thing, what's the advantage of owning this many cartridges?
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 16:03 |
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whereismyshoe posted:As someone who's pretty new to the whole vinyl thing, what's the advantage of owning this many cartridges? Most of them are super crap things taken off old turntables that have passed my way over the years. I just don't have the heart to throw them away.
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nomapple posted:I notice a few people have ordered vinyl off Amazon here, what's your experience been like with it? For some reason I am wary of ordering records from a place like Amazon. I normally order from dedicated vinyl sites or direct from the label/artist. Usually they send records in nice mailers, but I've gotten records from them that were in a taped up collapsed box if you know what I mean? I've also gotten a damaged record from them (no damage to shipping box), but amazon is super easy to do returns with (and they cross ship) so it's not that big a deal.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 17:15 |
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If you get something direct from Amazon, it's fine. Once you start dealing with other merchants selling through Amazon, it's hit or miss.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 18:03 |
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The last thing I ordered from Amazon was through a seller called Rarewaves. It got lost in the post and was super limited edition so they couldn't just replace it. They did offer to ship me another record from their store for free though and that arrived in very good shape very fast. I have also read that sometimes Amazon just wrap a sleeve in plastic shrink and stick a postage label straight on if the sleeve looks sturdy, so YMMV.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 20:00 |
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david puddy posted:The last thing I ordered from Amazon was through a seller called Rarewaves. It got lost in the post and was super limited edition so they couldn't just replace it. They did offer to ship me another record from their store for free though and that arrived in very good shape very fast. I have also read that sometimes Amazon just wrap a sleeve in plastic shrink and stick a postage label straight on if the sleeve looks sturdy, so YMMV. I've ordered a shitload of records from them and this has never happened. That sounds crazy.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 20:04 |
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alg posted:I've ordered a shitload of records from them and this has never happened. That sounds crazy. Yeah it's never happened to me either but I read something the other day either on another forum or Reddit that they shipped someone's Mellon Collie reissue that way. I am 99% sure I have seen similar stories for less sturdy sets though
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 20:06 |
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mono posted:If you get something direct from Amazon, it's fine. Once you start dealing with other merchants selling through Amazon, it's hit or miss. Yeah I've had problems with this, NEW records coming with the sleeves coming apart, records in far less than stellar condition, etc somewhat off topic, but what do you guys think about this? http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_lin...&pf_rd_i=507846
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 20:57 |
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vedicardi posted:Yeah I've had problems with this, NEW records coming with the sleeves coming apart, records in far less than stellar condition, etc Completely and utterly pointless. I guess it's cool if you're really lazy. And why would you even buy the CD version of something if you wanted the MP3 version for various devices?
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stay depressed posted:http://www.needledoctor.com/Pro-Ject-Speed-Box-II Did you notice any difference in sound quality? I've been happy with my Debut Carbon (coming from a beat-up old low-range Technics), but occasionally I hear what I assume to be motor noise if it's a very quiet intro or whatever. It could be because it's just sitting on my wood cabinet with no vibration dampening, but I think I've heard some people say the speed box eliminated similar situations. I also secretly want the acrylic platter replacement (somewhat just for the looks, but also because random internet people seem to say it'll sound better), but I'm not sure how smart it is to spend $120 on various upgrades for a ~$400 player.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 21:47 |
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iluvpr0n posted:I'm not sure how smart it is to spend $120 on various upgrades for a ~$400 player.
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Monkeytime posted:The only lathe cut I have or have heard is the Monarque "Vigor Mortis" 8", which sounds fine to me. On the other hand, maybe it sounds fine because it's lo-fi Quebecois black metal anyway. The sound is a little thin which I always chalked up to it having the weight of a flexi. The real issue with lathe cuts as I understand it is that they only hold up for 50-100 plays before the grooves are worn out. The guy who does these claims a 1000 play lifespan. My band is fairly heavy stoner/doom so hi-fi isn't really our thing - sounds perfect. Thanks for all the posts, fellas. I will now slowly back out of the thread so I don't get caught up pricing gear.. although I did get this for xmas.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 22:05 |
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CPL593H posted:Completely and utterly pointless. I guess it's cool if you're really lazy. And why would you even buy the CD version of something if you wanted the MP3 version for various devices? Yeah, I was just looking forward to seeing it applied to vinyl albums, one's that don't include download cards (I hate download cards, anyway)
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vedicardi posted:Yeah, I was just looking forward to seeing it applied to vinyl albums, one's that don't include download cards (I hate download cards, anyway) I don't own a single digital listening device and the vast majority of my music is on vinyl, so for someone like me it doesn't matter at all. Plus this allows me to maintain an air of smug superiority when ever I see someone using an iPod.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 23:43 |
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But the person using an iPod may have a turntable at home?
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dflanny posted:But the person using an iPod may have a turntable at home? I lug my turntable in a pack on my back.
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# ? Jan 10, 2013 23:53 |
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Who still uses iPods ? All I see now are people using phones for mobile music. Edit: in 20 years people will listen to vintage iPods.
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CPL593H posted:I don't own a single digital listening device and the vast majority of my music is on vinyl, so for someone like me it doesn't matter at all. Plus this allows me to maintain an air of smug superiority when ever I see someone using an iPod. "Why do they even make DVDs? I don't have a television at home and I go to see all movies at a theater, so to someone like me it doesn't matter at all."
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vedicardi posted:Yeah, I was just looking forward to seeing it applied to vinyl albums, one's that don't include download cards (I hate download cards, anyway) Well, it already exists in some ways. You purchase a record from some companies directly, they give you the downloads. It's probably a little harder to work out from a seller like Amazon. I feel that all new albums should give you the MP3 downloads. Also, does anyone know of any good shops to get records in the Madison, Wisconsin area. The two day drive to Vintage Vinyl in Jersey just isn't going to be worth it, I feel.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:I lug my turntable in a pack on my back. I carry mine around on my shoulder like a boombox. (If you have one of these you can actually do that)
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Blast Fantasto posted:"Why do they even make DVDs? I don't have a television at home and I go to see all movies at a theater, so to someone like me it doesn't matter at all." Although I don't actually own any portable music devices, I wasn't really being serious. I figured that was pretty obvious based on what I said.
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# ? Jan 11, 2013 00:18 |
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Besides the only way to listen to music on the go is to wheel around an old fashioned juke box that plays 7" singles. Moving around the unit itself is pretty easy, but you'd be surprised at how few will even listen to your request to plus a very long extension cord into their home or business.
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alg posted:Edit: in 20 years people will listen to vintage iPods. 20 years? HA! It was around the 4th or 5th generation when I saw people complaining that the older generation sounded better and how they were stocking up while folks were upgrading.
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CPL593H posted:Besides the only way to listen to music on the go is to wheel around an old fashioned juke box that plays 7" singles. Moving around the unit itself is pretty easy, but you'd be surprised at how few will even listen to your request to plus a very long extension cord into their home or business. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCumH8LRo1A Skip to about one minute.
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Cpt. Spring Types posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCumH8LRo1A I didn't even need to watch this, I knew what it was as soon as I saw the title. I loving love Mr. Show.
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CPL593H posted:I know it's been debated a lot (and discussed here a bunch), but is there any information out there that says whether or no colored vinyl sounds any different (and/or worse) than standard black? I'm not sure how it would effect the pressing, but I wouldn't find it hard to believe considering that 100% of bad pressings I've ever purchased were colored vinyl. As previously mentioned, a lot of it is usually the fault of the company actually pressing the records. Especially with special edition or funky patterned pressings, the batches are really small and the quality control and manufacturing consistency aren't on par with larger productions. And the faults tend to increase with complexity/number of patterns or variations. Where a large uniform production run might be fully automated with hoppers and tubes feeding a set amount of vinyl beads into the presses, color/pattern pressings are often way more dependent on manual labor to take care of that stuff. You've got guys hand feeding the machines (If you saw the promo video for the Heady Fwends RSD release, you may remember a clip of some hippy-looking dude scooping up handfuls of different colored beads from various bins, running across a plant floor, and chucking them into a press), leading to inconsistencies and getting personal/environmental contaminants like hair or skin or whatever in the product. Shaping the beads into patterns like swirls, speckles, or duo-tones or adding stuff like metallic pigments/shavings also affect the evenness of the disk and consistency of the material that goes into the press- which further impact sound quality. But outside of that, there's nothing inherent to the compounds in a record that would make one color superior to another- unless you've got a fancy laser turntable that can't read a light colored LP or something. Cemetry Gator posted:Some of my early REMs are translucent brown. Seriously. Hold your old REM records up to a light and see through the sound! Shenanigans! I have a first/second-run copy of every REM album released before the '90s (except for the Chronic Town EP, which is the blue RSD repress from like 2010 or whatever) and a bunch of Fables-era promo singles and not one of them is translucent brown. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jan 11, 2013 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Shenanigans! I have a first/second-run copy of every REM album released before the '90s (except for the Chronic Town EP, which is the blue RSD repress from like 2010 or whatever) and a bunch of Fables-era promo singles and not one of them is translucent brown. Well, when I hold my record up to the light, I can see quite clearly that I am the bigger Rapid Eye Movement fan.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:As previously mentioned, a lot of it is usually the fault of the company actually pressing the records. Especially with special edition or funky patterned pressings, the batches are really small and the quality control and manufacturing consistency aren't on par with larger productions. And the faults tend to increase with complexity/number of patterns or variations. This is actually what I suspected in terms of two tone and multicolor pressings.
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Cpt. Spring Types posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCumH8LRo1A Love the next clip too! Electric Bugaloo posted:Shenanigans! I have a first/second-run copy of every REM album released before the '90s (except for the Chronic Town EP, which is the blue RSD repress from like 2010 or whatever) and a bunch of Fables-era promo singles and not one of them is translucent brown. Original MSFL on JVC Super Vinyl were sort of clear brown. Did REM ever have MFSL releases?
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# ? Jan 11, 2013 02:52 |
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That's actually one of the best episodes. If you can find it on Netflix or whatever you should watch it.
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Cemetry Gator posted:Well, when I hold my record up to the light, I can see quite clearly that I am the bigger Rapid Eye Movement fan. gently caress you, guy- I AM Driver 8. Ron Burgundy posted:Love the next clip too! and I don't really care, MY records kick rear end all around the block. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jan 11, 2013 |
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Ron Burgundy posted:Original MSFL on JVC Super Vinyl were sort of clear brown. Did REM ever have MFSL releases? MFSL actually reissued their IRS records on vinyl at the same time that they got a deluxe reissue. But apparently, in the 80s, it wasn't uncommon for records to be translucent. They would look black, but then you hold them up to a light, and you would see through them. Which begs the question - why the gently caress are these people holding their records up to lights to discover this?
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# ? Jan 11, 2013 03:29 |
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Can't speak for other labels, but the MSFL jacket tells you to!
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# ? Jan 11, 2013 03:51 |
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If you pre-ordered the new Yo La Tengo album it should be showing up soon. I received mine today and from what I've heard so far I really like it.
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# ? Jan 11, 2013 03:59 |
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Oh, look at that...Congratulations Insound! You've shipped half of the order I placed back in the third week of November. You know, the one that you didn't let me know was almost entirely composed of backordered stuff until after I'd placed it. Swear to God- last time I buy from them.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Oh, look at that...Congratulations Insound! You've shipped half of the order I placed back in the third week of November. You know, the one that you didn't let me know was almost entirely composed of backordered stuff until after I'd placed it. My cyber Monday order from pop market still hasn't shipped despite the dec. 10-20 og estimate. When I check the site now it states shipping late January.
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