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FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

settings>general>keyboard?>autocapitalize/correct

text like its 2006

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multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"
I'm not a very good programmer, but that's okay. I like working with good programmers and learning, and achieving things that are neat or add value.

gabensraum
Sep 16, 2003


LOAD "NICE!",8,1
i turnef off autocorrect almost immediateky.

gabensraum
Sep 16, 2003


LOAD "NICE!",8,1
missing swype status: still

Zombywuf
Mar 29, 2008

Win8 Hetro Experie posted:

one co-pilot literally says "I don't understand what's happening" while a mechanical voice is yelling "STALL! STALL!"

That's the co-pilot who's pulling back on the stick during a stall. The other co-pilot is pushing forward because he apparently went to pilot school. The complete lack of feedback in the system is a major cause of the failure here. Everyone was confused because the plane wasn't coming out of the stall, they weren't confused about the fact that the plane was stalling.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
the better i get at writing code, the more i realize it's all poo poo. incrementally improving poo poo, but still poo poo.

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you
it helps if you stop thinking as your editor as some infinite blank workspace to build your special crystal towers of code in and instead think of it as a canvas with dimensions and constraints, and very specific applicability

if your poo poo is doing too much, pull it out, into another function, another class, into another library even

it's difficult to find the dividing lines but few things are more important in code because those lines are where 100 years from now some weenus is going to need to inject new functionality

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Cold on a Cob posted:

the better i get at writing code, the more i realize it's all poo poo. incrementally improving poo poo, but still poo poo.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
i work on linux as a day job and its amazing hwo this thing is just cobbled together with duct tape and how ppl complain when we try to fix that

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Suspicious Dish posted:

my favorite thing is that everybody things there the 10% because nobody wants to say "yes look at me im a lovely programmer"

and i talked to someone the other day who believed the camel has two humps and was like "oh man we gotta mke cs education suck less because most people dont understand variables"

I had enormous problems understanding what a "variable" was when I had my first algebra class. The teacher would show us something like "5x + 3 = 13" and then say "x is a variable", and I would argue that it wasn't variable; the value was 2. :downs:

prefect fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 12, 2013

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

FamDav posted:

I'm always curious about how quality metrics are carried out in other fields and if we can learn anything from them.


Considering you can't get a real job in the best economic times for a software engineer? I'm inclined to agree.

It's the dot-com bubble again?

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Quote is not edit.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
i have seen enough poo poo management that i'm beginnign to think that i might be able to do a better job. :(

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
it's a trap

Posting Principle
Dec 10, 2011

by Ralp

Wheany posted:

i have seen enough poo poo management that i'm beginnign to think that i might be able to do a better job. :(

don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers
don't take a job managing programmers

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
well, it's not even going to be a possibility in the next 18 months at least.

i can practice on university students, fail miserably and return to being a cog.

multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"
I really like managing programmers :shobon:

tef
May 30, 2004

-> some l-system crap ->
i'd rather work somewhere where adults are trusted to manage themselves

than work at a feudal 9-5 creche

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

tef posted:

i'd rather work somewhere where adults are trusted to manage themselves

than work at a feudal 9-5 creche

I'm thinking of taking the next job I can find where they have full-sized cubicles. The half-sized 120-degree things (plus an office full of talkers) is taking a toll on my sanity.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

tef posted:

i'd rather work somewhere where adults are trusted to manage themselves

than work at a feudal 9-5 creche

it took me several jobs to find one with actual adults

prefect posted:

I'm thinking of taking the next job I can find where they have full-sized cubicles. The half-sized 120-degree things (plus an office full of talkers) is taking a toll on my sanity.

"i'm thinking syphillis instead of full-blown hiv/aids"

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
It's absolutely possible to go nuts in a full size cubicle

In my case by being in a team that was in constant emergency mode due to poo poo legacy code, located next to another team that goofed off all the time

They watched loving sports replays and played with toys while our customer sites burned

FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

prefect posted:

I'm thinking of taking the next job I can find where they have full-sized cubicles. The half-sized 120-degree things (plus an office full of talkers) is taking a toll on my sanity.

Speaking of office chat, I'm thinking about getting a couch and a coffee table for laptoppin' and then setting up a standup desk for when I want to hook up to my display.

If I didn't need the display I'd probably take all the furniture out and put a nice rug in and just sit on the floor and do work like this one person I work with.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Cocoa Crispies posted:

it took me several jobs to find one with actual adults


"i'm thinking syphillis instead of full-blown hiv/aids"

i think i could live with a cbicle, as long as they have high dividers and my back isn't facing the aisle. i feel like someone is constantly looking over my shoulder. even when i'm not procrastinating i feel like people are judging my code.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

prefect posted:

I'm thinking of taking the next job I can find where they have full-sized cubicles. The half-sized 120-degree things (plus an office full of talkers) is taking a toll on my sanity.

current job is entirely open space, one big room, even management out in the open, and coming off of four years in a two person office w/ shuttable door well im listening to a lot more music and podcasts now

Max Facetime
Apr 18, 2009

Cold on a Cob posted:

the better i get at writing code, the more i realize it's all poo poo. incrementally improving poo poo, but still poo poo.

are you waiting for someone to invent a new way of coding that avoids all the previous poo poo, because I can tell you that someone will do exactly that, very soon!

and it's going to be untested poo poo incomprehensible to anyone but the inventor and his disciples

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

can someone explain all the creepy blog posts on HN about the reddit guy who killed himself, saying he was their soulmate and they loved him and poo poo?

though maybe i answered my own question

Posting Principle
Dec 10, 2011

by Ralp
maybe dont read hn

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
hn is porn for "creatives" that think shoveling out code is an art form

Toady
Jan 12, 2009

gucci void main posted:

can someone explain all the creepy blog posts on HN about the reddit guy who killed himself, saying he was their soulmate and they loved him and poo poo?

though maybe i answered my own question

righteous indignation because the government charged him with felonies after he committed felonies because the stress made him kill himself even though he was always suicidal

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Cold on a Cob posted:

hn is porn for "creatives" that think shoveling out code is an art form

hn is a site run by the guy who wrote "hackers and painters," whic is a a book about how computer people are like painters because they both make things, but he mostly wants to use computer people to get richer

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Oh look at me, i'm python, I have to be formatted properly to work? Is your tabs wrong? Can't write lovely looking code that looks like this?
code:
int i;int j;int main (void){while ((scanf("%i", &j)))for (i = j; i >= 0; i-- {usleep(1000000);printf("%i\n", i);}return 0;}
WELL gently caress YOU!

Oh whats that? You don't have to declare anything? Why sure! Come on in spelling mistakes.


Python is a pretty terrible language for a multitude of reasons. Those two being the biggest.

HORATIO HORNBLOWER
Sep 21, 2002

no ambition,
no talent,
no chance
metafilter was slobbering all over that swartz loser today and my favorite bit was this

that's a comment he posted on the site in 2001 back when he was like eight years old on a thread ABOUT HIMSELF

"To those who say that you can only be happy by being "normal", I'd like to suggest that I am evidence to the contrary."

*kills self twelve years later*

HORATIO HORNBLOWER
Sep 21, 2002

no ambition,
no talent,
no chance

ratbert90 posted:

Oh look at me, i'm python, I have to be formatted properly to work? Is your tabs wrong? Can't write lovely looking code that looks like this?
code:
int i;int j;int main (void){while ((scanf("%i", &j)))for (i = j; i >= 0; i-- {usleep(1000000);printf("%i\n", i);}return 0;}
WELL gently caress YOU!

Oh whats that? You don't have to declare anything? Why sure! Come on in spelling mistakes.


Python is a pretty terrible language for a multitude of reasons. Those two being the biggest.

lol scanf get the gently caress out of here forever

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

ratbert90 posted:

Oh look at me, i'm python, I have to be formatted properly to work? Is your tabs wrong? Can't write lovely looking code that looks like this?
code:
int i;int j;int main (void){while ((scanf("%i", &j)))for (i = j; i >= 0; i-- {usleep(1000000);printf("%i\n", i);}return 0;}
WELL gently caress YOU!

"python won't let me do bad thing, therefore it is bad"

Deus Rex
Mar 5, 2005

gucci void main posted:

can someone explain all the creepy blog posts on HN about the reddit guy who killed himself, saying he was their soulmate and they loved him and poo poo?

believe it or not there are people who interact (with other people) in real life and have "friendships" :tubular:

Posting Principle
Dec 10, 2011

by Ralp

ratbert90 posted:

Oh look at me, i'm python, I have to be formatted properly to work? Is your tabs wrong? Can't write lovely looking code that looks like this?
code:
int i;int j;int main (void){while ((scanf("%i", &j)))for (i = j; i >= 0; i-- {usleep(1000000);printf("%i\n", i);}return 0;}
WELL gently caress YOU!

Oh whats that? You don't have to declare anything? Why sure! Come on in spelling mistakes.


Python is a pretty terrible language for a multitude of reasons. Those two being the biggest.

a poster worse than me :eyepop:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:

lol scanf get the gently caress out of here forever

The programs I write generally don't have user input from the command line. :smith:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Cocoa Crispies posted:

"python won't let me do bad thing, therefore it is bad"

Yeah man, having to declare your vars is so bad.
*edit* I don't write code like my example in one single lines. That's dumb and people are dumb if they do that. However tabs and styling are usually slightly different among people. :colbert:

FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jan 13, 2013

Opinion Haver
Apr 9, 2007

depression is a poo poo disease/condition/whatever and if he killed himself he must've had it pretty bad

what he did was probably illegal but at the same time doing stuff like comparing a mac address to a VIN is bad and they obviously took the 'throw everything at him and see what sticks' approach. i know yeauxpeaux likes to disagree with the free software circlejerk but computer laws are still seriously hosed

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krisis
Oct 25, 2003

i have a light case of asparagus.
pythons indent rules are pretty awful if you're doing autogenerated code. very easy to change block unintentionally.

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