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Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

IRQ posted:

The grandpa is the best. I think in one episode he was talking about/watching porn or something.

There's also an episode where he mentions playing Russian roulette.

Hey Arnold was such a great show. The fact that the second movie never got made still makes me a little sad inside and the first movie was a gigantic disappointment. They hyped up the thing about Arnold and Helga in the trailers to no end and then when you watched the actual movie Helga just dismisses it as being in the heat of the moment.

That and the movie plot itself sounds like it should have just been an episode of the TV show, two parter or not.

Also, the episode where Arnold's grandpa talks about basically killing Hitler was pretty great. Nick had some really strict guidelines about not using "die" on shows then and Hey Arnold was one of those shows that loved to dance around that a lot.

Zeether fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jan 14, 2013

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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
The grandma and grandpa from Hey Arnold were the best

Thompsons
Aug 28, 2008

Ask me about onklunk extraction.

Zeether posted:

Also, the episode where Arnold's grandpa talks about basically killing Hitler was pretty great. Nick had some really strict guidelines about not using "die" on shows then and Hey Arnold was one of those shows that loved to dance around that a lot.

It wasn't him killing Hitler but it was still an amazing scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoixIhyr1Xo

The frowny face armbands are a pretty great way to censor swastikas.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

raditts posted:

I can kind of understand, I've always had the feeling that Kenan and Kel is one of those shows in the Goon NostalgiaTM pantheon. I could never really bring myself to enjoy it or All That / many of the classic Nicktoons, really. I guess I was out of the age demo when they all started showing.

What was your opinion on Aaaaaaahh!! Real Monsters? I loved it at the time but I mentioned it to my mother a few weeks ago and she said that the show was really obnoxious ("nothing but screaming".) Your take?

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

IRQ posted:

The grandpa is the best. I think in one episode he was talking about/watching porn or something.

Personally, I think Rugrats started going downhill shortly after the first movie to the point where they were introducing new characters every season. I do remember enjoying the earlier episodes though but I always found the adults to be more entertaining then the kids most of the time.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jan 14, 2013

Tartarus Sauce
Jan 16, 2006


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me

Cliff Racer posted:

What was your opinion on Aaaaaaahh!! Real Monsters? I loved it at the time but I mentioned it to my mother a few weeks ago and she said that the show was really obnoxious ("nothing but screaming".) Your take?

It was cool--neat characters, creative artistic style, clever premise. And yes, both it and Rocko contained a fair amount of screaming and yelling, so you can't watch it when you're tired or have a migraine.

As a kid, I thought it was okay, and I always wanted to like it better, but the fact that the main characters could never catch a break made me uncomfortable and vaguely sad. (The same goes for Invader Zim, now that I think about it.) That they didn't have any safe adults they could turn to or confide in also made me uneasy, because it meant that they had nowhere to hide from the Gromble and his cronies. I think I actually like the show better as an adult than I did as a child.

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

Thompsons posted:

It wasn't him killing Hitler but it was still an amazing scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoixIhyr1Xo

The frowny face armbands are a pretty great way to censor swastikas.
That was it. I love Grandpa's line at the end too.

I haven't seen a lot of episodes of Hey Arnold but I've seen a good chunk of some of the memorable ones like the school play and the one where Helga's part of Arnold's magic show and actually ends up becoming invisible to everyone. Oh, and the one where Helga visits the psychologist, which is actually pretty :smith:

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
It also had Tim Curry which is always a plus, I remember loving the Wild Thornberrys for that reason also.

DapperDinosaur
May 27, 2012

This is what America's next drag super star does...

She works for a living.

Zeether posted:

There's also an episode where he mentions playing Russian roulette.

Hey Arnold was such a great show. The fact that the second movie never got made still makes me a little sad inside and the first movie was a gigantic disappointment. They hyped up the thing about Arnold and Helga in the trailers to no end and then when you watched the actual movie Helga just dismisses it as being in the heat of the moment.

That and the movie plot itself sounds like it should have just been an episode of the TV show, two parter or not.

The Hey Arnold movie was actually intended to be a TV movie. Nick decided to give it a theatrical release after the success of the Rugrats movies. The second movie that never got made was actually being created with a theatrical release in mind.

KKoserYaks
May 4, 2012

And what you call chaos is my beauty.

Larryb posted:

Personally, I think Rugrats started going downhill shortly after the first movie to the point where they were introducing new characters every season. I do remember enjoying the earlier episodes though but I always found the adults to be more entertaining then the kids most of the time.

Well, with lines like, "Betty a thief? That's an absurd proposition!"
"You're an absurd proposition!" How could you not?

Reginaldavid
Sep 30, 2006
beautiful cretin
I always liked that Real Monsters had Gregg Berger as the Gromble. He's the guy who played Cornfed in Duckman, and it looks like he mostly gets those low gravelly-voiced roles (like Cutthroat Bill in Curse of Monkey Island, Grimlock in Transformers, etc). But when he was the Gromble we got to hear him jumping way up and down his whole range, which was hilarious.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Wasn't there an Ahhhh Real Monsters and Rugrats or did I imagine that?

Also I remember liking Catdog and the Catdog movie.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

KKoserYaks posted:

Well, with lines like, "Betty a thief? That's an absurd proposition!"
"You're an absurd proposition!" How could you not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vs55Z7t7bk

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
This episode and the evil army of toy clowns are my favorites, along with the Pirate episode.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Tartarus Sauce posted:

As a kid, I thought it was okay, and I always wanted to like it better, but the fact that the main characters could never catch a break made me uncomfortable and vaguely sad. (The same goes for Invader Zim, now that I think about it.)

Invader Zim always gave me the creeps.

It just seemed to have a very dreary, dark view on things, which kind of ruined the show.

Every human shown looked like a guy that appeared to be straight out of "CLiff Yablonski hates you". The difference is though, I can get a good laugh at that page on SA or something that would be on the flashtube, I just never could with Invader Zim.

I recall it getting taken off the air around 9/11, and figuring that to actually be a good move.

achillesforever6 posted:

This episode and the evil army of toy clowns are my favorites, along with the Pirate episode.

Watching the evil clowns, I wanted to figure out what they were parodying with that particular episode. During those seasons they seemed to kind off go an older movie or tv show.

FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jan 15, 2013

Magnus Condomus
Apr 23, 2010

So on a whim I decided to try and watch that Kaijudo: Rise Of The Duel Masters show, expecting it to be so bad that it's funny. Kind of like the NFL RUSHZONE cartoon. (It's awful.)

Turns out it's actually surprisingly enjoyable. The character designs are pretty bad, but the monster designs are good, and the animation is good when it counts. The story is an odd hodgepodge of pretty much every anime/monster cliche and trope from the past 20 years. Weird hair colors, bullied at school, has weird natural talent for mana, draws monsters, etc.


Main character is racially bullied for being half Asian, which is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyyqdzKrSHo&feature=player_detailpage#t=390s

Not sure if I've seen growing up biracial tackled as a subject in a kids show.

Overall, I'd say it's entirely watchable. Definitely better than the Magi Nation cartoon they tried to make a few years ago. Its decently executed and reminds me of the shows I used to watch growing up. If you liked Digimon/Pokemon or any other companion creature type shows then you'll probably at least tangentially enjoy Kaijudo.
(I don't really like Gabriel though. Fat soft spoken nerd is a cliche that I could stand to never see again. Maybe he'll grow up as it goes on.)

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
Speaking of which, did they ever have the Redskins' mascot show up in that thing. I know some people were mildly curious about how they would handle that when Rushzone was first announced.

Magnus Condomus
Apr 23, 2010

Cliff Racer posted:

Speaking of which, did they ever have the Redskins' mascot show up in that thing. I know some people were mildly curious about how they would handle that when Rushzone was first announced.

Wikipedia lists it in the character roster, but I can't find anything on google image search.

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

Speaking of Digimon, that DVD set they released a while back is really good. Not much in the way of extras (why is the Japanese theme music lyrics an extra?) but the video quality is nice and the show still kind of holds up, although the dub dialogue has a fair share of ridiculous lines.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Magnus Condomus posted:


(I don't really like Gabriel though. Fat soft spoken nerd is a cliche that I could stand to never see again. Maybe he'll grow up as it goes on.)


You forgot black. Black nerd.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009

Zeether posted:

Speaking of Digimon, that DVD set they released a while back is really good. Not much in the way of extras (why is the Japanese theme music lyrics an extra?) but the video quality is nice and the show still kind of holds up, although the dub dialogue has a fair share of ridiculous lines.

To be fair, they toned them way down when it mattered. Sure they were still there (The Ultimate Evil comes with both Hot and Cold watter, don't you know?) but it wasn't a groansome as when Etemon was a thing.

Only show I know of that didn't make an utter hash of adoption as a plot line.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Magnus Condomus posted:

Main character is racially bullied for being half Asian, which is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyyqdzKrSHo&feature=player_detailpage#t=390s

Not sure if I've seen growing up biracial tackled as a subject in a kids show.

Cyborg from Teen Titans was half robot!

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Anyone remember the one thread topic in GBS pretty much about how dumb the Villains in Captain Planet were?

I recall having a discussion with my econ. prof who's about 5-10 years older than me about it, and how stupid some of their motivations were, and how it didn't make logical sense from a business standpoint.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

FuzzySkinner posted:

Anyone remember the one thread topic in GBS pretty much about how dumb the Villains in Captain Planet were?

I recall having a discussion with my econ. prof who's about 5-10 years older than me about it, and how stupid some of their motivations were, and how it didn't make logical sense from a business standpoint.

There is an episode where they kidnap the president of the united states and launch him in rocket ship that travels to venus in less than 2 hours. In another episode they seek to bulldoze over a literal portal through time in South America. They are not smart people.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

FuzzySkinner posted:

Anyone remember the one thread topic in GBS pretty much about how dumb the Villains in Captain Planet were?

I recall having a discussion with my econ. prof who's about 5-10 years older than me about it, and how stupid some of their motivations were, and how it didn't make logical sense from a business standpoint.

It's because the only cause for pollution or poor resource management is pure evil. Therefore the only solution is punching and not negotiating or looking for alternative modes of production or sources of energy.

Andrew_1985
Sep 18, 2007
Hay hay hay!
If you had to rank all of the Captain Planet villains on a scale for intelligence and competence, I'd definitely place Hoggish Greedly and that yellow radioactive guy towards the bottom. Dr Blythe would be near the top of the list.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
Duke Nukem (?,) the yellowish guy, dependent on radiation to stay alive? I'd say he was doing okay, but only because his goals were so different from everyone else's.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

FuzzySkinner posted:

Anyone remember the one thread topic in GBS pretty much about how dumb the Villains in Captain Planet were?

I recall having a discussion with my econ. prof who's about 5-10 years older than me about it, and how stupid some of their motivations were, and how it didn't make logical sense from a business standpoint.

I remember one episode where the Lady Two-Face was going to burn down a small South American town for reasons that amounted to 'gently caress IT THEY'RE POOR AND FOREIGN". I'm almost positive she was, like, a powerful CEO that was well known or something.

Captain Planet was super hosed up, like I'm all about being green and all but it unironically had an episode that was all 'hey One Child policies may not be sooooo bad...'

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

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Glitterbomber posted:

I remember one episode where the Lady Two-Face was going to burn down a small South American town for reasons that amounted to 'gently caress IT THEY'RE POOR AND FOREIGN". I'm almost positive she was, like, a powerful CEO that was well known or something.

Seems pretty realistic to me.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Captain Planet also had really crazy episodes about the Palestine-Israel and Ireland conflicts, not to mention one about AIDS. Pretty ballsy, but they deserve to be done in better shows.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

The MSJ posted:

Captain Planet also had really crazy episodes about the Palestine-Israel and Ireland conflicts,

I quite literally cannot think of a worse topic for a kid's show. :stare:

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

readingatwork posted:

I quite literally cannot think of a worse topic for a kid's show. :stare:

Oh yes. The Palestine-Israel one even had people calling each other "Arab terrorists" and "Jewish oppressors", if I remember right.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
They also had an episode about the Irish Protestant and Catholic thing that involved a suitcase nuke.

Oh and timetraveling to WW2 and those two evil women trying to sell Hitler weapons and C. Planet almost dying from Hitler's hate.

edit: and an episode where spirit animals berate the Planeteers for not trying harder.

PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Jan 17, 2013

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

PhazonLink posted:

Oh and timetraveling to WW2 and those two evil women trying to sell Hitler weapons and C. Planet almost dying from Hitler's hate.

Also Hitler looked like this:

FrostedButts
Dec 30, 2011
The character of Verminous Skumm from Captain Planet actually had some truly evil schemes. There was an episode where he placed nuclear bombs right in the middle of racially feuding nations. Yeah, it was a MacGuffin for talking about differences, but for a global terrorist trying to cause confusion and violence, Verminous had it down.

He's also one of the few cartoon villains that's actually killed a character as when he got Linka's cousin hooked on a drug that caused him to die.

Though I'll admit to the show being a blatant vehicle for environmental and cultural issue, Captain Planet still had a handful of truly dark episodes.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

The MSJ posted:

Also Hitler looked like this:



I GOT A FINAL SOLUTION FOR YOU BROTHER

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
With all the other 80's things being dragged from the graveyard I'm not sure why no one's attempted a new captain planet.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

PhazonLink posted:

They also had an episode about the Irish Protestant and Catholic thing that involved a suitcase nuke.

Oh and timetraveling to WW2 and those two evil women trying to sell Hitler weapons and C. Planet almost dying from Hitler's hate.

edit: and an episode where spirit animals berate the Planeteers for not trying harder.

I thought the episode with the spirit animals was more them putting them on trial for humanity's crimes against nature. It was a long time ago, but I remember there being stuff like the Woolly Mammoths, Tasmanian Tigers, and little geckos or something who had no name because they were destroyed along with the acre of rainforest they existed on before ever being discovered, all calling them assholes.

I think that anti-Gaia character was involved. Those episodes tended to be weird.

FrostedButts
Dec 30, 2011

Yonic Symbolism posted:

With all the other 80's things being dragged from the graveyard I'm not sure why no one's attempted a new captain planet.

Are you kidding me? If there were a new Captain Planet cartoon right now, it would be a daily feature for anger on Fox News and blasted by corporations left and right. And if they cast Al Gore as the voice of Captain Planet, I'm pretty sure Rush Limbaugh's chest would explode.

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Those are all good things but I think we're not asking the most important question.

What art style would it have? More of the animeish stuff everyone been doing or something original(not really)?

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