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KillerJunglist posted:I decided to not be directly confrontational and respond with "You don't have to enter illegally, necessarily." and this link: James Joseph Dresnok posted:I was fed up with my childhood, my marriage, my military life, everything. I was a goon. 
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A friend from high school posted this. I'm Blue, Red is a friend of the guy who posted this. I've never seen a post so stupid and ridiculous that it didn't even need a response. I mean, usually if something's really stupid, instead of rebutting it, I'll mock it. But this one does it all for me! XyloJW fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Jan 21, 2013 |
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Jan 21, 2013 05:04
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Wolfsheim posted:I have relatives who are mostly non-political, maybe posted some dumb bullshit around election time, but keep it pretty quiet. But this Sandy Hook thing has blown my wall the gently caress up with all the bad meme images liked from the Tea Party's page, STOP OBAMA pages, etc. None of them really stuck out, until this one today: Your family posted that picture? I wonder where they found it. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:frankr/index?tab=comments You might be related to an irl freeper, Lucky you!
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Jan 21, 2013 05:09
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Payroll taxes and Income taxes are now exactly where they were when Obama took office in 2009 for anyone who makes less than $250K. Thanks, massive tax increase of 0%! People over $250k pay a slightly higher Medicare payroll tax now, and people over $450k pay more on income and capital gains, too.
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Jan 21, 2013 05:16
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XyloJW posted:A friend from high school posted this. I'm Blue, Red is a friend of the guy who posted this. So he's mad the temporary tax cut Obama put in place as a small stimulus measure is gone, in no small part because Republicans opposed it at every step? Does this mean he was going to vote for the party that never wanted the payroll tax cut period?
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Sarion posted:Payroll taxes and Income taxes are now exactly where they were when Obama took office in 2009 for anyone who makes less than $250K. Thanks, massive tax increase of 0%! People over $250k pay a slightly higher Medicare payroll tax now, and people over $450k pay more on income and capital gains, too. Oh right, I forgot about that! drat, wish I'd said that.
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Jan 21, 2013 05:20
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Amused to Death posted:So he's mad the temporary tax cut Obama put in place as a small stimulus measure is gone, in no small part because Republicans opposed it at every step? Does this mean he was going to vote for the party that never wanted the payroll tax cut period? And the increase came from the fact that Social Security would be insolvent if left at that rate. Of course, another option to keep it solvent was to raise the cap at which people have to pay in. But we wouldn't want that, would we?
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Jan 21, 2013 05:45
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XyloJW posted:A friend from high school posted this. I'm Blue, Red is a friend of the guy who posted this. ..Why is he raising shields and locking phasers? Hes not a fan of star trek is he? It takes place in a socialist techno liberal utopia! And from his focus on the quote, is he saying hes ok with the principle if it was guarenteed to only tax those making over 250K ?
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Jan 21, 2013 06:10
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I wonder why income and payroll taxes are underlined when capital gains isn't despite the fact that went up. Of note though, he is correct. Obama totally lied about income taxes not going up one dime on up to $250,000 of income for couples. Instead income taxes didn't go up a dime for couples earning up to $450,000 
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Jan 21, 2013 07:13
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I was recently told that Obama was going to raise the Capital Gains tax to 35%. He'd also add a 5-10% tax for Obamacare which brings it up to 45% Tell them that the double tax is just for the straights. Gay married people get half tax.
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Jan 21, 2013 07:42
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Yesterday my posted on Facebook just "1461." Today, she posted "1460." I looked up 1461. It's a blog that counts the days left in Obama's administration. Jesus loving Christ.
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Jan 21, 2013 15:39
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XyloJW posted:Yesterday my posted on Facebook just "1461." Today, she posted "1460." I looked up 1461. It's a blog that counts the days left in Obama's administration. Jesus loving Christ. At this point isn't this just where you resign yourself to it and worry about it again next election? Goddamn people are babies.
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Jan 21, 2013 16:07
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I was recently told that Obama was going to raise the Capital Gains tax to 35%. He'd also add a 5-10% tax for Obamacare which brings it up to 45% I know it wasn't you who said it, but the idea of "Dr. Arbitrary" going "eh what the hell, you're married, double your taxes straight-up" is just cracking me up.
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Jan 21, 2013 16:14
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XyloJW posted:Yesterday my posted on Facebook just "1461." Today, she posted "1460." I looked up 1461. It's a blog that counts the days left in Obama's administration. Jesus loving Christ. I remember when I was a kid, my dad listened to Rush every day. He started every show with Day XXX of America held hostage. Each number being the number of days of the current Clinton administration. They are basically angry toddlers. Some things never change I guess.
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Jan 21, 2013 16:17
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XyloJW posted:Yesterday my posted on Facebook just "1461." Today, she posted "1460." I looked up 1461. It's a blog that counts the days left in Obama's administration. Jesus loving Christ. Tell them it only counts if they hold their breath for 1460 days, while stamping their feet and refusing to eat vegetables.
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Jan 21, 2013 16:23
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XyloJW posted:Yesterday my posted on Facebook just "1461." Today, she posted "1460." I looked up 1461. It's a blog that counts the days left in Obama's administration. Jesus loving Christ. Tell them that you too are excited and are also counting the days until President Biden.
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Jan 21, 2013 16:30
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To be fair, I saw more "Days 'til Bush is out" calendars than I've seen for Obama, and I live in the Deep South. Both sides do it, and always will.
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Jan 21, 2013 16:56
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Unreal_One posted:To be fair, I saw more "Days 'til Bush is out" calendars than I've seen for Obama, and I live in the Deep South. Both sides do it, and always will. Absolutely. Self awareness should be something we strive for considering how much we like to pride ourselves on having it over the other guys. I was particularly amused, however, when I saw the "1-20-2013" stickers, sometimes subtitled "End of an error," that popped up aping the Bush's last day ones. Conservatives were so busy trying to turn around a joke on liberals that they forgot to consider that Bush's last day was the end of his second term and he couldn't be reelected, while Obama had a very real chance of a second term.
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Jan 21, 2013 17:29
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GW Bush haters were pretty adamant with the end-of-office stuff. I saw tons of stickers with his last day. I think people are allowed to dislike their president. But the best response to that is to just post a "Number of days till President Biden / Clinton" post for the best type of rage-inducing activity.
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Jan 21, 2013 17:32
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Amused to Death posted:I wonder why income and payroll taxes are underlined when capital gains isn't despite the fact that went up. Only from the stand point of the Bush tax cut expiration. Obamacare introduced new taxes on couples earning more than $250K. A 0.9% Medicare Payroll tax increase (The Medicare portion of FICA is not effected by the income cap); and a 3.8% Healthcare tax on investment income. Both of these went into effect this year, so if you make $300,000 then your taxes really have increased, as opposed to returning to Bush-levels like it did for most people. Summit posted:Tonight my dad claimed that the government, as part of Obamacare, can seize, tax or somehow extract money from people's 401k's. I didn't really know if that was true and couldn't Google so I tried to extract exactly by what mechanism he thought that would happen and of course he really didn't know, ultimately settling on that they might take out a loan against your private investment account... which makes no sense at all. Anyway, after our call I tried to verify the basis of this 401k change in Obamacare and I haven't found a drat thing. Anyone know anything about this? Sorry about the lack of details, this is all I could get out of him. Perhaps he was confused about the new tax on investment income. However, 401k's are taxed when you withdraw the money from them, and those withdrawls are taxed as ordinary income; so they wouldn't be subject to the new 3.8% tax that I mentioned above.
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Jan 21, 2013 18:24
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Is he trying to signal mourning or distress/emergency? Cause half-mast and upside down mean two different things.
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Jan 21, 2013 18:28
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All of the above, I'm sure. The guy is persistent in posting things without research whilst rallying people round the banner of "Obummer the Tyrant!" I've corrected him about a dozen times for macros that contain brutal misquotes, and on on anything I've openly engaged him on he inevitably gets reduced to, "Lemme 'lone, I believe what I believe!"
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Jan 21, 2013 18:35
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Ask him if he's in any sort of distress since that is what it means when you hang the flag upside down. Then offer to call the police for him.
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I had a cousin-in-law start screaming about how his taxes went up and Obama was a liar. First I had to point out that his taxes were still no higher today than vs. under the Bush administration, then explain to him that the payroll tax cut was actually from the Obama admin. He responded with "well he said no tax increases and my taxes are higher this year than last year so "Then today I see my sister-in-law thinks Sandy Hook was government-instigated. This is why I don't check facebook more than once a month; it just makes me remember why I hate so many people. 
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Coelacanthian posted:
Saw one today that said: Buffalo NY Mayor flips flag for Inauguration day, victory at Buffalo! soon to be 50 states!
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Jan 21, 2013 18:44
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BJA posted:Saw one today that said: Buffalo NY Mayor flips flag for Inauguration day, victory at Buffalo! soon to be 50 states! I'm finding no evidence of this actually taking place. I doubt Byron Brown (AKA the mayor of Buffalo) will be pleased if that rumor takes off.
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Jan 21, 2013 19:12
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The black, Democratic mayor of Buffalo NY totally sees the second inauguration of noted Democrat and first black president Barack Obama as truly a nation in distress.
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Does anyone have a good source about the Jane Akre Fox lawsuit where they argued that the first amendment allowed them to lie and distort facts on air? I told a friend about it and he asked for an article on it but all I can't really find any great sources. I'd rather not link him to DailyKos but it really does seem like no one in the main stream media actually reported on it. Shocking. 
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Jota posted:Does anyone have a good source about the Jane Akre Fox lawsuit where they argued that the first amendment allowed them to lie and distort facts on air? I told a friend about it and he asked for an article on it but all I can't really find any great sources. I'd rather not link him to DailyKos but it really does seem like no one in the main stream media actually reported on it. Shocking. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+media+can+legally+lie.-a0126529447 quote:In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by Fox News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States. Edit: IIRC a bunch of other media organizations signed on in support of Fox News in this case, probably why you don't find much.
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facebook posted:Inauguration day facts. Ugh, people.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+media+can+legally+lie.-a0126529447 Thanks that looks great. I appreciate it. And yeah you are correct. On some of the other things I read I saw that five major media organizations had all signed on.
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aBagorn posted:Ugh, people.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Hmm it's almost as if the economy was in a tailspin at the beginning of 2009! Coincidence? Nope. Just Obama. That was my first comment. the response: facebook posted:We were going through one then too. I know it is convenient to forget that the economy has been bad since Bush's second term.
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Job market when Obama took office: -Hemorrhaging jobs at around 600,000 lost a month Job market last month? -circa 155,000 jobs added, which will probably be revised up next month as has been the trend for the past year.
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XyloJW posted:Yesterday my posted on Facebook just "1461." Today, she posted "1460." I looked up 1461. It's a blog that counts the days left in Obama's administration. Jesus loving Christ. Today on fb..."something needs to be done to end this tyranny. We need to overthrow the government.... I commented, "or you can just wait until 2016." It derailed into me being a coward, sheeple, crazy. The person who posted the OT,along with some other family members, have some loonies on their friend's list. Every time I interact with these people, I have to clarify, that I'm not "anti gun", but, anti-unnecessary violence. It doesn't matter. If you're not 100% for them, you're 500000% against them.
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quote:Gallon of gas 1/20/2009: $1.84 Under Bush gas hit over $4 a gallon, and is now $3.26; so by my two data point graph gas prices are going down thanks to Obama! It's almost as if using two data points from a data set with large fluctuations is a bad idea and highly misleading. I mean, it's not like $1.84 a gallon was some kind of Recession driven aberration, right? quote:Unemployment rate 1/20/2009: 7.8% Same as above. By taking only the two data points you completely fail to grasp the point that Unemployment skyrocketed in 2009 and has been declining for the last three years. It's not like it's just been a straight line from 2009 to 2013. quote:Estimated welfare spending as of 1/20/2009: $563 billion I don't even know where to start with this one, it makes no sense. TANF (welfare) provided less than $10B in cash assitance in 2011. Even if you add in SNAP (Food Stamps), that's only another $78B. Throw in Unemployment, ignoring that it's a government run insurance program, and you get another $150B in 2011. But if you lump in things like Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security, you fly way past the $1T mark. So I have no idea how they're measuring this, at all. But it strikes me as if it's designed to make it seem like we're paying more in Welfare (TANF) than we really are. It makes it look like we're paying out a $1T in welfare checks, when it's not even remotely close to that. Everything about this stat reeks of bullshit. quote:Number of Americans on food stamps 1/20/2009: 34 million Yes, this is how social programs are MEANT to work during economic downturns. quote:Average monthly premium for individual health policies 1/20/1009: $161 ~15% over 4 years isn't really that bad compared to how they've been increasing. Oh, was this supposed to be a slam about Obamacare programs and regulations that haven't even started yet? quote:Median household income in America adjusted for inflation 1/20/2009: $52,195 Another case of taking two data points in order to ignore what happened in between them. Median income dropped sharply due to the recession but has been on the increase. quote:Number of American soldiers killed in Afghanistan as of 1/20/2009: 630 I would love to hear more about how much you oppose the War in Afghanistan. Also, do you know how many American soldiers died in Iraq in 2012? As far as I can find, it was a single, non-hostile, death. quote:US national debt as of 1/20/2009: $10 trillion Yep, and was caused almost entirely by policies implement by Republicans under Bush and then a Recession which drastically slashed tax revenues and increased need for Food Stamps, Unemployment, and other social programs. quote:Social Security income/deficits as of 1/20/2009: SURPLUS of roughly $4 billion Which is part of why the payroll tax cut ended. But again, you have a down economy shrinking revenue, and the same economy is also driving more people onto SS early, and also a large increase in the number of people on disability since employers don't usually hire people with disabilities when they've got 20 other applicants with no disability. quote:Lastly, the number of Americans age 16 or older who decided not to work or even to seek a job increased by 8,332,000 to a record 88,839,000 in President Barack Obama’s first term, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. This number is pretty much always increasing, since people are retiring faster than they're dying. And it even points out that half the number is exactly that: people who retired. Then you have people going back to school because of the downturn, or families deciding to live off of only a single income, people who are disabled, etc. As for the rest, we could have given them jobs, but that costs money. And the Free Market is so much more effective at dealing with these people: leave them to rot.
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I like how Obama is a tyrant out to make your children gay Muslim communists. But if people really believed that, REALLY believed that, surely some fuckwad would be trying to assassinate the guy now. Nope! FB macros it is!
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Cowslips Warren posted:I like how Obama is a tyrant out to make your children gay Muslim communists. But if people really believed that, REALLY believed that, surely some fuckwad would be trying to assassinate the guy now. Well, they have. The Secret Service considers it a security threat to let it known when someone attempts to assassinate the president, so they don't report it. But an interview with someone from the Secret Service said E: Well, I couldn't find my source for that. I found one on Wikipedia that said as of 2009, the number of attempts was comparable to previous presidents. XyloJW fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jan 22, 2013 |
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Oh yes, people are trying. But these are by and large the same people who believe in and share the memes in this thread, so.
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