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You found it! I was digging through old scans to track that one down - you are awesome!
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 03:03 |
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:For some reason, this is a film no one saw at the cinema, but are all buying on dvd /blu ray. Weird. Maybe its a Brit thing and everyone knows of dredd in one form or another. Maybe the good word of mouth didn't travel fast enough during the cinema run, but now after months it's grown to a greater extent?
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 03:29 |
BreakAtmo posted:Maybe the good word of mouth didn't travel fast enough during the cinema run, but now after months it's grown to a greater extent? This was the case for me, as I had zero expectations of the movie until I actually heard from people who saw it, at which point it had already left all the theaters in my area.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 04:23 |
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e: Fuuuuck wrong thread
moths fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jan 23, 2013 |
# ? Jan 23, 2013 05:08 |
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Another Person posted:That is the best news you could hope for with this movie. Hopefully it pushes it over the 50$mil profits the movie needs for a sequel. I still need to buy my copy. Considering studios at best break barely 60% from theater takes, they probably make a heap more on DVD/Blu-Ray/Digital Download sales as well. The pricing for both disc versions is near identical so you can add 12/13 million to the revenue just off first week sales alone with the numbers their press release has.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 06:18 |
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Cream_Filling posted:Dunno, they could be ballistic armor, too. It is the future, after all. But yeah, the point of the suit is the same reason most other comic book movies forgo the skintight spandex - it looks kind of silly, which detracts from the gritty feel they're shooting for. Also, probably the stuntmen appreciate the protection. quote:I know it's a Glock with a bunch of plant-ons on it. That might be one reason that the proportions are kind of awkward-looking. Especially that placement of the second magazine-looking thing in front of the trigger assembly. etalian posted:I suppose the cheesy Stallone Dredd movie was in many ways much closer to the look of the comics and the wider range of colors.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 07:19 |
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Kegluneq posted:I really don't want to have to watch the old one to check this, but I think you're right. Besides budget concerns, I think they really tried to distance themselves from the old film by having a completely new and more realistic aesthetic for Megacity One. I think it works pretty well though. This film is astonishingly colourful and amazingly well shot - the Slo-Mo scenes in particular are like comic book art. You can watch it on Youtube if you enjoy cheesy movies, if anything it serves as a amusing contrast the newer better executed movie.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 10:03 |
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etalian posted:You can watch it on Youtube if you enjoy cheesy movies, if anything it serves as a amusing contrast the newer better executed movie.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 10:57 |
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The thing that stands out most to me about 95 dredd is the theme, which its totally badass but totally ill suited to the movie. It really seems like everyone involved thought they were kickstarting an epic sci fi franchise.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 11:34 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I'm starting to think the best joke in the film is in how Anderson spares that one guy, because she sees that he was forced to do bad things and is therefore a victim. I said this in the general chat thread, but I'm convinced there's a liberal and a pinko reading: the liberal sees Anderson as softly-softly revisionist, slowly moving the system into a more humane approach -- or at least a more efficient system needing less torture, 'collateral damage,' etc. (or is it more humane as a consequence of this?) -- whereas the pinko is more likely to say 'gently caress this, the system is hosed and any moralism atop it is contemptible fraud.' Danger posted:Dredd knows how to properly subdue an enemy hiding in a civilian population: I find myself stunned that his argument is there's nothing all that brutal about Dredd since a Judge's standard 'area-of-effect attack' is white phosphorus. How do you miss the point by getting it?
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 11:43 |
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Kegluneq posted:Oh, I have seen it - it was actually my first encounter with the Judge Dredd universe :-/ I thought it was okay at the time, but after reading some of the comics I realised the depths of my error... With a different script and cast(!) it could have been a pretty decent rendition of the original material. The sad thing is that Stallone had been trying to get a Dredd film made for a long time, but was waiting for the right script to come around - unfortunately for everyone, that one was the script he chose...
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 14:17 |
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Kegluneq posted:That's true to the comics at least. There isn't really anywhere else a second magazine could go without significantly enlarging the weapon. I said proportions, not overall placement. I just think the huge gap between the trigger and the second magazine makes it look like a fake gun and also sort of unbalances the design. It's not a big deal.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 15:19 |
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Kieselguhr Kid posted:I said this in the general chat thread, but I'm convinced there's a liberal and a pinko reading: the liberal sees Anderson as softly-softly revisionist, slowly moving the system into a more humane approach -- or at least a more efficient system needing less torture, 'collateral damage,' etc. (or is it more humane as a consequence of this?) -- whereas the pinko is more likely to say 'gently caress this, the system is hosed and any moralism atop it is contemptible fraud.'
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 15:23 |
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Danger posted:I definitely see Anderson's approach as the more 'humane, progressive' torture that can reach many more souls. It's not that the system will need less torture, but that the torture is, as you point at, less wasteful. Of course they'd pass her. So she is the liberal reformist in that sense. Yeah, it's not torture, it's "enhanced interrogation".
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 15:26 |
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Bah, did you see any waterboards? I think not.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 16:11 |
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A part of the American mythology (and also actual commie ideology) is that oppressive systems will, as historical inevitability, eventually crumble and be replaced by more just systems. I think this is not true, and so I think it's important to have convincing and nuanced portrayals of dystopias to underline the fragility and rarity of the American system (or at the very least, our idealized image of that system), and the viability of horrible dystopian systems. I don't think that it's harmful to "normalize" oppressive actions in the context of such portrayals - I think it's a good thing to show the parallels between real life and the fictional world, and I disagree that seeing something familiar in such a context serves to promote that thing, though it's of course going to be open to interpretation. Of course, the alternative isn't totally ruled out, here. I wonder how much damage Dirty Harry and other movies which came out in reaction to the creation of the Miranda Doctrine did by promoting the narrative of "crooks get away because of legal loopholes babying criminals!"
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 16:22 |
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Cream_Filling posted:A part of the American mythology (and also actual commie ideology) is that oppressive systems will, as historical inevitability, eventually crumble and be replaced by more just systems. I think this is not true, and so I think it's important to have convincing and nuanced portrayals of dystopias to underline the fragility and rarity of the American system (or at the very least, our idealized image of that system), and the viability of horrible dystopian systems. I don't think that it's harmful to "normalize" oppressive actions in the context of such portrayals - I think it's a good thing to show the parallels between real life and the fictional world, and I disagree that seeing something familiar in such a context serves to promote that thing, though it's of course going to be open to interpretation. I gotcha, I'm reading way too fast VVV Danger fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jan 23, 2013 |
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Danger posted:I don't think it's promoting anything. Look at that "Nathan's Diner" sign. When I talk of promotion, I'm talking specifically of Dirty Harry and other films that took place in context of the creation of Miranda and concerns over rising crime rates in major cities. I specifically said that I don't think Dredd is promoting anything it portrays.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 17:00 |
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Payndz posted:Arse, I was hoping they'd have the 'Dredd stares unreadably at a gang of burning perps' closeup shot at wallpaper size, but they didn't. timg'd for huge table breaking. How's that?
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 18:27 |
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That's an awesome picture, but it does draw attention to how goofy the Judge helmet is for actually seeing out of.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 21:44 |
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jabby posted:That's an awesome picture, but it does draw attention to how goofy the Judge helmet is for actually seeing out of. Not that I know a ton about the technology of the universe or Dredd's comic backstory, but I, as the viewer, assume the following: - There's an obscene amount of shielding built into the helmet and visor (hence why Anderson's abilities are seriously hampered by it) - The helmet provides the wearer with a Heads Up Display-type overlay - they can target objects, get statistical readouts, etc. - It's supposed to look large and imposing, just like the pads and armor - it makes the Judge look larger than they actually are.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 21:53 |
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I do love how spindly Karl Urban looks at the start when he is out of his gear, it really reinforces that everything he is only exists when he is in his uniform, including his stature.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 22:06 |
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massive spider posted:The thing that stands out most to me about 95 dredd is the theme, which its totally badass but totally ill suited to the movie. It really seems like everyone involved thought they were kickstarting an epic sci fi franchise. And also amusing from a theme point of view since a bombasic heroic theme really doesn't really capture why Dredd is so different than the standard superhero setup.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 23:37 |
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Kieselguhr Kid posted:I said this in the general chat thread, but I'm convinced there's a liberal and a pinko reading: the liberal sees Anderson as softly-softly revisionist, slowly moving the system into a more humane approach -- or at least a more efficient system needing less torture, 'collateral damage,' etc. (or is it more humane as a consequence of this?) -- whereas the pinko is more likely to say 'gently caress this, the system is hosed and any moralism atop it is contemptible fraud.' The basis for the pinko stance is that there is very little antagonism between the 'fascist' Dredd and the 'liberal' Anderson. They are literally partners in a team, working great together.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 23:48 |
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etalian posted:And also amusing from a theme point of view since a bombasic heroic theme really doesn't really capture why Dredd is so different than the standard superhero setup.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 23:55 |
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Red posted:Not that I know a ton about the technology of the universe or Dredd's comic backstory, but I, as the viewer, assume the following: Plus the way the helmet doesn't end up exploding into a billion fragments from a point blank shot with a High Explosive round. It just sort of deforms a bit. Always assumed there was a HUD of some sort, especially given the chase scene at the beginning. Kinda like Stormtrooper helmets in Star Wars. Useless as poo poo for just wearing as a helmet for a costume, but as far as the "technology" goes, pretty badass with poo poo like internal/external coms, sensor packages, hell I think some of em even have sealing forcefields for space work.
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 10:54 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Always assumed there was a HUD of some sort, especially given the chase scene at the beginning. Kinda like Stormtrooper helmets in Star Wars. Useless as poo poo for just wearing as a helmet for a costume, but as far as the "technology" goes, pretty badass with poo poo like internal/external coms, sensor packages, hell I think some of em even have sealing forcefields for space work.
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 12:05 |
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They do establish that helmet HUD technology exists, as evidenced by that kid playing a video game. I wonder if we were going to get a Dredd's eye view shot and then they decided against it.
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 15:59 |
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moths posted:They do establish that helmet HUD technology exists, as evidenced by that kid playing a video game. I wonder if we were going to get a Dredd's eye view shot and then they decided against it. Minor thing that annoys me about the film, or at least the extras: they keep insisting that Slo-Mo slows the brain down to 1% of its normal speed. But that has to be the opposite of what's actually happening - if it just slowed down the mind then everyone on Slo-Mo would just lag behind everyone else visually...
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 16:14 |
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Kegluneq posted:Minor thing that annoys me about the film, or at least the extras: they keep insisting that Slo-Mo slows the brain down to 1% of its normal speed. But that has to be the opposite of what's actually happening - if it just slowed down the mind then everyone on Slo-Mo would just lag behind everyone else visually...
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 16:38 |
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I stumbled into the comic book thread for Dredd and now want every issue and volume of the comic turned into a movie with the same style of this movie and definitely not the Stallone version. I hope it never gets too big, because it's ability to be unassuming is what made it awesome. The actors weren't big blockbuster names, which meant they relied on their performance more than their name which usually makes a movie way better. I want like 24 more of these movies. The soundtrack was awesome, and the experience feels like this years Drive. One thing though, why did Dredd slo-mo mal-mal? That seems like some sort of corruption, the only thing that I didn't understand. BreakAtmo posted:Maybe the good word of mouth didn't travel fast enough during the cinema run, but now after months it's grown to a greater extent? I really wish I would have seen it in IMAX 3D or whatever I feel bad that I didn't give it 2x tickets worth of money.
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 17:31 |
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He gave her a taste of her own medicine. She had done exactly the same thing to the 3 thugs at the start of the movie Plus it gave us the really cool slowfall
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 17:56 |
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Physical posted:
Either for a sadistic eye for an eye torture while she meets her death sentence, or possibly to try and stop her freaking out hard and having some kind of fear induced heart attack halfway down and blowing the block up. Or third option: because the slo-mo shots look cool as hell and it got us one more E;f,b
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DicksToAsses posted:Either for a sadistic eye for an eye torture while she meets her death sentence, or possibly to try and stop her freaking out hard and having some kind of fear induced heart attack halfway down and blowing the block up.
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 17:58 |
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Physical posted:The eye for an eye part is what I think is corrupt and I didn't think Judges could do that. But whatever all of these make sense. He claims he did it to make sure she was still alive so that her dead man switch could not go off
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 18:00 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:I was thinking about this and the only explanation I can come up with is that while your reaction time remains at 100%, your brain is somehow interpreting things at 1% - in other words, time in general seems to slow, not just your time. This is the only way to explain how people who are on Slo-Mo are able to go from zero to sixty in a split second (the gang-banger in the van in the beginning of the movie.) But yeah, it's definitely a puzzling thing. Physical posted:One thing though, why did Dredd slo-mo mal-mal? That seems like some sort of corruption, the only thing that I didn't understand. quote:I really wish I would have seen it in IMAX 3D or whatever I feel bad that I didn't give it 2x tickets worth of money.
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 18:01 |
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It was so he could look down and say "yeah" while she was still staring up at him.
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# ? Jan 24, 2013 18:57 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:The sad thing is that Stallone had been trying to get a Dredd film made for a long time, but was waiting for the right script to come around - unfortunately for everyone, that one was the script he chose... Maybe the others were so much worse (). To me what was so bad about the first Dredd movie was the tone. It had that 90's cheesy humor for kids that was unbearable, scattered all over the film. Stallone himself was a good Dredd, in my opinion at least. Elentor fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jan 24, 2013 |
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Kegluneq posted:I assume it hotwires the brain into operating a hundred times faster than normal, for a few seconds (albeit only the part that processes visual images and senses passage of time). Was that what you were saying? Their use of percentages is a bit confusing. Elentor posted:Maybe the others were so much worse (). To me what was so bad about the first Dredd movie was the tone. It had that 90's cheesy humor for kids that was unbearable, scattered all over the film. Stallone itself was a good Dredd, in my opinion at least.
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Elentor posted:Maybe the others were so much worse (). To me what was so bad about the first Dredd movie was the tone. It had that 90's cheesy humor for kids that was unbearable, scattered all over the film. Stallone himself was a good Dredd, in my opinion at least. Another small plus is it had foxy Joan Chen in a minor henchman role.
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